Arrow Arrow 3.23 My Name Is Oliver Queen

[Justin]

If this is how they're gonna continue writing Felicity I'd rather they just kill her off. Hard to believe she was my favorite character before this season.

Not to single you out, but exactly this.

Even those people who wanted 'Olicity' didn't want this. People liked Felicity because she was this cute funny nerdy girl who crushed on Oliver and occasionally saved the day with her IT skills.

Instead it looks like the only purpose of Ray Palmer this season was so that she could have her moment flying in and saving Oliver from R'as Al Ghul and police snipers.

Noone wanted that for Felicity surely. Even the most hard core Olicity fans wouldn't expect her to throw laptops at League Members throats and fly around in a fricking super suit.

Who really wanted Felicity to take Arrow out of Starling city so he could be happy? Pretty sure even her fans didn't want this.

 

[Matt]

I'm giving it a 7. Not as bad as folks are acting (I swear, the drama queens this season complain about everything), but at the same time, a lot of stuff was way too abrupt and needed more buildup. Would've worked better as a two parter (or at least with more focus toward closure in last week's episode).

 

[fire117]

I give the finale an 8.

Leadership of the league should have been given to Nyssa not Malcolm.

I thought it was odd that Nyssa rejoined the league would have made sense to have her stay in Starling or travel off on her own.

 

[Drz]

What i liked:
+ Speedy's costume
+ The sword fight between Ras' and Oliver for the most part.

What i didn't like:
- Everything else
- Especially how easily Oliver outsmarted Ras'

 

[Boy Scout]

It wasn't that bad. There was some stupid **** that went down, but the episode itself was decent.

Imagine that. A decent end to a terrible season. God help season four.

7/10.

 

[Seb]

haters going haters Loyal fan will suppor the show no matter what while fake fan and haters will always bash the show !

This is only true if you are using the original meaning of fan, when it was short for fanatic. Nowadays, being a fan just means that you follow a thing. Would you say a sports fan is not loyal if he gets mad at his team for underperforming? Because that's what those of us complaining on the forum feel like: a great team, the Arrow writers/cast/crew are not delivering the best work they are capable of.

So Flash's reason for not helping out Team Arrow tackle a situation that could result in the deaths of everyone in Starling City was because he was long overdue in having a chat with Wells?

I know that they couldn't have Flash being used where he could solve Oliver's problems within a flash (pun not intended), but I think it would have been better if they just said that Barry was preoccupied because of some active crisis that was going on with his city as opposed to just wanting to chat with Wells.

Plus, I think it would have been good (for the continuity shared between both shows) if they said that at the beginning of the episode, the plane that Ra's and Oliver was in had made a brief pit stop at Central City to gather up on supplies, which is when Oliver gained the chance to sneak away from Ra's gaze (albeit momentarily) and help Barry.

Completely agree. I wish they'd just not used Barry at all. They could have had Tatsu escape and save them somehow, instead of using Barry as a lazy way to get them all free and remove the assassins in their way, but then rush off to have a convo with Wells.

Since the producers said that this season finale is the bookend of the first 3 seasons, it didn't bookend too well. The end of the episode with Oliver and Felicity riding off into the sunset sums up the entire 3rd season.

Highlights were other characters becoming heroes - Dinah Laurel/ Black Canary, Ray Palmer/ Atom, Tatsu Yamashiro/ Katana, and Thea Dearden Queen/ Speedy.

Can we now have an Arrow comic series called Season 3.5 where we can focus on Dinah Laurel, Diggle, Thea, Katana, and Nyssa?

I would happily watch that Birds of Prey show. Lyla could probably pull off being ghetto Oracle.

The theme for this week is heroes placing their misguided trust with the villains such as Captain Cold and Malcolm Merlyn.

I'm annoyed with Arrow more than the Flash when it comes to Cold/Malcolm because Snart is less evil, and we got to see Barry actively struggle with the decision to ask for his help after desperately searching for another way to save the metas. Also, Barry is still pretty much a novice and Cold was his first real experience of trying to work with a villain. That episode ended with Barry getting punished for trusting Cold and learning and growing as a character.
On Arrow, Oliver trusted Merlyn and gave him the keys to the worlds most ridiculous arsenal of human weapons (Knowing that Merlyn is a traitorous bastard) and wandering off into the sunset without a care in the world.

Can someone please explain to me the conversation between Ra's/Ollie before/after their duel? Why was Ra's happy when he died?

Ra's thought he had won and Oliver would become the new Ra's. He was a moron.

We need Flashpoint so bad. The entirety of Season 3 needs to be wiped from existence. Whenever I am going to rewatch all Seasons of Arrow, you can be sure I'm going from Season 2 straight to Season 4. Well, depending how well they handle the 2 last remaining Seasons, I might only rewatch the first 2.

It won't finish at 5 seasons if the ratings remain decent. They'll just have to come up with something else to replace the flashbacks. Maybe they could actually develop the secondary characters properly (sorry Roy).

 

[Justin]

I'm annoyed with Arrow more than the Flash when it comes to Cold/Malcolm because Snart is less evil, and we got to see Barry actively struggle with the decision to ask for his help after desperately searching for another way to save the metas. Also, Barry is still pretty much a novice and Cold was his first real experience of trying to work with a villain. That episode ended with Barry getting punished for trusting Cold and learning and growing as a character.

On Arrow, Oliver trusted Merlyn and gave him the keys to the worlds most ridiculous arsenal of human weapons (Knowing that Merlyn is a traitorous bastard) and wandering off into the sunset without a care in the world.

Exactly. Cold was a lesson, a character growth. He stands in the lair acting all noble and saying 'you have my word' only to later laugh his ass off and say 'because I'm a villain and I lie'. He's also essentially a bank robber with a special gun, who has only killed once when he 'had' to and Barry is established as a naive guy who is genuinely shocked someone could think the way Cold did, like Flashback Oliver in S1-S2.

Malcolm killed 500 people, tried to kill thousands more, killed Oliver's lover and made his sister a killer. He also killed Ollie's father, had an affair with his mother and was responsible for the death of his best friend. Oliver 'trusted' him because he had intel which would help bring the league down from the inside. However once R'as was dead, the only reason to give Merlyn the league was 'honor'. You just wouldn't do it, you'd give it to Nyssa. And I can't see how R'as was built as a greater threat to the earth than Malcolm, apart from when Sara died, he's stuck to the shadows and shown himself to have some sort of moral code which Malcolm doesn't have. I'd much rather have R'as in control of the league than Merlyn. Plus Oliver is a cynical dude and isn't supposed to be naive at all.

Basically Barry trusting Cold was in character. Oliver working with Merlyn was an affront to S1 Oliver's struggles and S2 Oliver's love for Sara. It just wouldn't happen (any more than Laurel sleeping with the guy who cheated on her with her sister and was responsible for her death )

 

[britmotley]

all it took to defeat R'as was a sword in the belly !!!
He was attempting to destroy Starling City and all who live there,why didn't somebody just shoot him with a gun

 

[Prison Mike]

I gave the finale a 6/10. For a season finale, it was pretty boring. The whole season has been pretty underwhelming IMO.

 

[RivenSky]

I'm so torn about this show. I like all the characters individually, but overall I'm just left with this feeling of meh. I'm still going to watch, because of my love for comic book stories, but I really hope next season is more cohesive.

Barry being in the beginning and his quip about the hot tub was basically the only enjoyment I got out of the whole episode.

 

[Slade W]

I remember posting a prediction a while ago that Malcolm would do something big by the end of the season. I thought he would either find some way to take over the LOA or play a massive part in helping Team Arrow defeat the LOA (I thought he would sacrifice himself to save Thea). It seems I was right about taking over the League and sort of right about him helping Team Arrow although I did not expect him to do both (ie help Team Arrow as well as become the leader of the LOA). It looks like he achieved his main goal (get rid of the target on his head that the league had on him) and then some. All this time he has been one step ahead of Oliver and two steps ahead of Ra's. I wonder if somehow Ra's will survive or be brought back (perhaps he has some loyal followers in the League that will be unhappy with Malcolm in control and will try to bring him back) and if he is brought back, will try to reclaim his former title as the Demon's Head.

 

[Seb]

all it took to defeat R'as was a sword in the belly !!!
He was attempting to destroy Starling City and all who live there,why didn't somebody just shoot him with a gun

Yeah, the symmetry was pretty ridiculous in that final fight. Who in writer's room was like:
"Hey, you know what would be a super cool way for Ra's to die? If Oliver beats Ra's the exact way Ra's beat him."
"You mean the way that Ra's beat Oliver which we claimed didn't kill Oliver?"
"Yeah, and it should be at the top of a dam even higher than the cliff Oliver fell off."
"And Ra's gets kicked off it, and we don't know if he died?"
"No, he just dies super fast after being stabbed in the exact spot that Oliver survived."
"What?"
"You got a better idea?"
"No. Let's just have Felicity save Oliver somehow to distract everyone from Ra's dying from a supposedly not mortal wound."

 

[Slade W]

Overall, I really liked the episode. The fight between Oliver and Ra's was very good but a bit underwhelming compared to the first one which is a pity, but that is me nit-picking. Perhaps someday we will get to see Oliver vs Ra's III. I cannot wait to see what Malcolm does with the LOA and I wonder when we will get to see him next (ie will it be right from the get go next season or will he turn up in the 2nd half) and I also hope that Nyssa will be around more. She is a very good character IMO.

 

[Boy Scout]

Wait...Oliver survived being shot because of his League gear, but we've seen several assassins either get pierced by arrows or shot by Diggle...and then die. What the ****?

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

yeah!i really dont" nit pick" . I mean after all we are watching a show about people with superpowers ( and i was cool that they didnt wear yellow spandex!) but Felicity taking Ray's armour out for a spin to save Ollie without ever really getting in the field or fighting! that was some serious BULL$%^&*!!... Man i could see DIGGLE!! ( which really that was the F&*&* IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!) or even Laurel... but F%^&* Felicity.....oh man! that was nausea inducing!
Hahaha

 

[Loki882]

What I liked:

-Grant Gustin.

-Thea's Speedy costume.

-Some of the action.

What I didn't like:

-Ra's getting taken out WAY too easily.

-Oliver LETTING MALCOLM GO AGAIN!! Hey Oliver, remember the part of the city that he BLEW UP? Remember to FIVE HUNDRED+ people that died? Remember that he essentially killed YOUR FATHER? Nope, none of that, oh for crying out loud writers.

-Yet another "destroy the city" climax, three in a row.

-Oliver being forgiven way too easily.

-Flash felt shoehorned in (why didn't he help stop Ra's again)?

-Etc.

 

[zenith16]

Wait...Oliver survived being shot because of his League gear, but we've seen several assassins either get pierced by arrows or shot by Diggle...and then die. What the ****?

I know Selective logic it's a interesting thang, oy

 

[kane9321]

I didn't understand why Nyssa kept raising her bow to TA or why Laurel was quiet during the whole thing.

GOD I WANT NYSSA...GOD I DO

What a godawful stupid ending of this worthless season...Thank god god NYSSA

 

[Paradox1]

Did anyone else begin to believe Nyssa was taking the marriage seriously in that scene at Palmer Tech? I was hoping to get some better understanding of that scene later on but it was never followed up.

 

[kane9321]

Did anyone else begin to believe Nyssa was taking the marriage seriously in that scene at Palmer Tech? I was hoping to get some better understanding of that scene later on but it was never followed up.

hell yes..I loved it

 

[zenith16]

Did anyone else begin to believe Nyssa was taking the marriage seriously in that scene at Palmer Tech? I was hoping to get some better understanding of that scene later on but it was never followed up.

hell yes..I loved it

I think it was more of a issue to her that he was one that joined her in her fight against her father in the plane wasn't for the bs her father was pushing and didn't like the hostility Diggle was showing Oliver when the have bigger fish to fry.

she doesn't care for the marriage but some I kn ow that isn't what you two want to hear. so I'll just drop it leave it here.

 

[Slade W]

As for Oliver letting Malcolm take over the league, it was either going to be him or someone else. Better the devil you know.

 

[kane9321]

I think it was more of a issue to her that he was the oe that joied her i her fiht aai't her foather i the plae wasn't for the bs her father was pushing and dind't like the hostility Diggle was showing Oliver when the have bigger fish to fry. she doesn't care for the marriage but some I kn ow that isn't what you two want to hear. so I'll just drop it leave it here.

You sorta lost me there

 

[KillerMcQueen]

You sorta lost me there

He kinda lost me as well.

 

[zenith16]

You sorta lost me there

sorry the edit didn't take " he was the one that joined her in her fight against her father in the plane"