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Wait...Oliver survived being shot because of his League gear, but we've seen several assassins either get pierced by arrows or shot by Diggle...and then die. What the ****?

Maybe Ra's wants to protect his "heir" as much as possible. Even putting armor on his outfit.
 
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I am wondering if the producers were planning on doing a Flashpoint thing this whole time and figured they give Olicity fans what they want while also crapping on everything else, just so they could undo it.

It'd be a dream come true for me, if that happened... but it never will. MG (thinks he) knows where his 'bread is buttered', so Olicity will always be a thing until they decide to either go "comic canon" ie GA/BC or make it so that Oliver decides that he can't be an effective hero while loving someone. [with it being on TheCW, I don't see the 2nd option as a very viable one]
 
Maybe Ra's wants to protect his "heir" as much as possible. Even putting armor on his outfit.

That makes sense, but then why was Ra's, himself, not similarly protected? And why wouldn't the other assassins be outfitted in the exact same material?

Or maybe Oliver did just in case anything happens if his plan didn't work out.

Possible, but Nyssa's dialogue suggested that the protection was always there.
 
This finale was reflective of the entire season: a mixed bag. Good ideas. Poor execution. Questionable decisions.

I didn't understand why they didn't keep the mystery of whether Oliver was brainwashed or not underwraps until the finale. It would've made his "My name is Oliver Queen" moment more powerful, and it was lacking for me because they showed he never stopped being Oliver Queen. It would've made last week's ending more scarier with Team Arrow possibly dying.

I didn't understand why Flash couldn't have stuck around to help. Yes, he had a conversation with Harrison Wells waiting, but hold on...based on the Flash episode that just aired, there's no reason to think Wells was going anywhere or escaping. Flash really could've stuck around and helped for a few hours. Just a plot convenience to get Flash out of there even though there was no reason he couldn't have helped more.

Oliver and Malcolm planning this entire thing to find out how Ra's was going to attack Starling City? Eh, when was this planned? Before or after Ra's starting killing city civilians? Before or after Thea's near-death. If that was the plan the entire time, why didn't he just give himself over to Ra's sooner? Baffling.

Felicity getting angry at Oliver because he was going to sacrifice himself to save Starling City...that annoyed me. Oliver's shown up until this point he's willing to go the distance to save his city and family. Why is she surprised? Shouldn't she have known he'd do this?

The Damien Darkk inclusion was a waste. I didn't buy at all that Ra's was going to succeed. There was a lack of suspense in the episode that the last two finales had. Probably because the lead villains better, despite my enjoyment of Nable's take on Ra's Al Ghul. He should've had more time this season.

Oliver quitting leaving with Felicity was a surprise ending that obviously won't last long. Malcolm as the new Ra's is so weird. He survived Ra's sword because he was freed from torture, not because he himself escaped death as Oliver did.

Enjoyable, but disappointing after two great finales.

Feel free to tell me I'm overreacting or over analyzing things. :csad::oldrazz:
 
That makes sense, but then why was Ra's, himself, not similarly protected? And why wouldn't the other assassins be outfitted in the exact same material?

Ra's probably believed if anything were to happen to him, his heir would take over. He died smiling as Oliver killed him, he didn't care about living. He had enough. The second part: To him they were expendable. You see what he did who one of his assassin's in The Climb.
 
Because to him they were expendable.

Which doesn't mean that he actually wants any of them die. They have to be alive to do his dirty work, which means that they need to be protected.

He also has an entire army at his command. Killing five of them for sport wouldn't even make a dent.

Ra's probably believed if anything were to happen to him, his heir would take over.

But that doesn't mean that he wanted to die, though. There's no reason why he wouldn't want to protect himself.
 
Finale was ok. Best part for me was Flash showing up to help the team. I think the fight with Ra's should have been both Malcolm and Oliver defeating Ra's Al Ghul. Oliver alone killing him (although he was still no match for Ra's) all of a sudden was a bit disappointing. It just didn't have the big fight feel, it was more like, 'yeah, show is gonna end, we need to kill the bad guy fast'
 
Which doesn't mean that he actually wants any of them die. They have to be alive to do his dirty work, which means that they need to be protected.

He also has an entire army at his command. Killing five of them for sport wouldn't even make a dent.



But that doesn't mean that he wanted to die, though. There's no reason why he wouldn't want to protect himself.

He clearly infected one of his own men to spread the virus. His dialog to Felicity implied that he hated being separated from his wife and son to be Ra's. Who's to say he had enough of his life and resigned to death? Just like Maseo did.
 
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Basically this season was about Merlyn becoming the leader of the LoA, not about Oliver having an identity crisis that leads him to become "Green Arrow".
 
Basically this season was about Merlyn becoming the leader of the LoA, not about Oliver having an identity crisis that leads him to become "Green Arrow".

I said it from the start. The Malcolm fixation jacked this season up.
 
I said it from the start. The Malcolm fixation jacked this season up.

"You are the reason why my dad killed himself, you killed my best friend, killed 503 people in Star City, killed Sara and twisted my sister into murdering but you helped me so here have The League of Assassins"
 
Oliver helped Barry when he came back to Starling city. Arrow aired a week when The Flash didn't so Arrow was a week ahead. Yesterday's Flash should've aired before last week's Arrow.

Sorry to quote you again, it's still confusing in some aspects here. So is the right viewing order this?

Al Sah-him(Arrow)
Rogue Air(The Flash)
This Is Your Sword(Arrow)
My Name Is Oliver Queen(Arrow)

If so, how did Oliver get the nanites from Ray Palmer?
 
Sorry to quote you again, it's still confusing in some aspects here. So is the right viewing order this?

Al Sah-him(Arrow)
Rogue Air(The Flash)
This Is Your Sword(Arrow)
My Name Is Oliver Queen(Arrow)

If so, how did Oliver get the nanites from Ray Palmer?
Logic, your using Logic. It doesn't work with arrow any more especially this season lol
 
"You are the reason why my dad killed himself, you killed my best friend, killed 503 people in Star City, killed Sara and twisted my sister into murdering but you helped me so here have The League of Assassins"
Not to mention Merlyn is the whole reason the League targeted Ollie and his friends/family anyway.

Also that best friend of Ollie's that Merlyn killed just happened to be his son.

Thea froze out Ollie and Moira for what felt like the whole damn season last year for lying to her, but she warmed up to her mass murderer father fast and even continued working with him after he brainwashed her into killing a friend.

Laurel and Quinton taking turns being mad at each other for the whole show's run, only this year the reasoning behind the conflict was stupid (not telling him about Sara, who will come back to life anyway going by Legends of Tomorrow)

just such a mess
 
Some of us need answers. :p

Was Ray Palmer in on it the whole time?
some how Ido't thik you'll be happy with what their answer is ia satisfiable way .

with the nanite's in flash it would make it all seem that the flash episode took place after I am oliver queen. but they had Oliver say he needed a favor though he didn't say what it was there .

but flash shows up in nanda par bat to set to the other free in the dungeon say's he needs to have chat with well's. which has some people are wondering/ saying why is he talking to him? must be their hint that he (Reverse flash ) was captured.

it's ether that Oliver who left with the league after trying to gas team arrow with ray & Katana had a pit stop in central city & Oliver some how managed to slip away some how to try & contact Barry.


As to Oliver being called by barry & receiving the message we don't know or it's likely the other way around some how & the event's of I am Oliver queen is after they captured feux well's / reverse flash. some from the writers screwed up some where explanation wise. it might from the arrow staff end . I'm sure some will ask or should the produce i arrow will say what it is weather it'll be a satisfiable answer ?.......
 
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Basically, Merlyn pulled a Sawyer and long-con'd Team Arrow with a **** ton murder and *******-ry.

Oliver is a chump.
 
This review is so good, better than this freaking mess of a finale, that's for sure:

What should I say about "My Name Is Oliver Queen"? As an individual episode, it wasn't that good. Sure, it had some fun bits. There was sword fighting. Thea made her big debut in her new duds. Diggle punched Oliver (best part). Barry showed up and was very excited about encountering an actual dungeon (second best part). Felicity climbed into the A.T.O.M. suit. Little moments like those provided some pleasure, and pleasure had been in short supply on Arrow. As the Season 3 finale, well, those good bits couldn't save "My Name Is Oliver Queen" from being the only thing it could be: the end result of a lot of poor plotting and barely fleshed-out character arcs. There wasn't a way for this finale to remedy or undo this season—short of Oliver waking up and finding Sara in the shower, anyway—and so it was sentenced to tying up all the nonsense that had come before it.

The episode still contained plenty of its own nonsense to work through, including the absolute inanity of Ra's men carrying empty briefcases so as to better call attention to themselves instead of just killing themselves in public places and letting the bioweapon spread. Or Malcolm's inoculating skin graft that doubled as an exposition device (and here I thought that was going to be Barry's job!). The small pleasures aside, the finale was marked by the ineptitude that has plagued this season since "The Climb." So, I guess, points for consistency?


The rest of it here: http://www.tv.com/shows/arrow/commu...-my-name-is-oliver-queen-review-143111999257/

And to think Amell said this about this season:

Stephen Amell: "Season 3 is going to annihilate Season 2."
https://www.facebook.com/stephenamell

LOL... What this season destroyed, was the reputation of the series. Poor Stephen, he may be a very nice guy, but sometimes he talks too much.

The finale was as bad as the rest of the season and ruined Nyssa even more, she wanted to kill Malcolm but now serves him. They have turned her into a weak character afraid of her superiors, is just pathetic, she should've left the LOA instead of this nonsense. And Felicity as Iron Girl, I mean Atom Girl, yeah right, anyone can use the suit now... :whatever:

The best thing to come out of this was Thea becoming Speedy and Ray finally doing what the Atom does (if you have seen the Legends of Tomorrow trailer), but they should've shown the shrinking on Arrow, just another mistake among many, many others.

Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg...

You have failed this city!
 
Not a horrible episode, but a disappointing one for a disappointing overall season. I liked having Nyssa team up with Team Arrow again. I liked Flash's cameo. I liked Thea showing up to have her premier.

But Ra's and Malcolm both got so misused in parts of this season, and in parts of this episode, and they flanderized Oliver and Laurel's trust issues for manufactured drama.

And the final fight was so anti-climactic compared to the last two seasons and The Climb.
 
Eh...the finale had its moments. I'm trying to not be nitpicky but even then its still a pretty meh episode. It's just been bad reckless decision after bad reckless decision with Oliver this season. And even with the impending doom of the bio weapon, it didn't feel like Starling was in danger like the other two seasons.

I don't like the ending at all. Too cheesy. But I'm guessing this will just be the set up for him to return on the scene as GREEN Arrow now...or something...I dunno.

You think they've setting for Diggle to become the Guardian next season? I felt like the gold light they showed when he was in the elevator was a hint/nod.

I hope the flashbacks are better next season. This season they were way too short. They'd take 5 episode to show Ollie and Maseo walking down a hall. And we didn't even get to see Oliver fly a plane. I thought that was the whole point of this season but I guess we'll see next season. I wonder where he's headed to now. Maybe Russia?
 
You think they've setting for Diggle to become the Guardian next season? I felt like the gold light they showed when he was in the elevator was a hint/nod.
I doubt it. Isn't Guardian traditionally a character associated with Superman? And if he is related to the Green Arrow mythos at all, it would be as Roy's uncle.
 
He clearly infected one of his own men to spread the virus.

I repeat: he has an entire army at his command.

His dialog to Felicity implied that he hated being separated from his wife and son to be Ra's.

But it didn't imply that he had a death wish.
 

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