Arrow Arrow Season 2 Episode 7 "State v. Queen" Discussion Thread

[Coconut1214]

I'm somewhat surprised that Ollie took Sara in the escape,but I find it hard to believe Shado and Slade seemed so easily accepting of her.

Well we didn't spend a lot of time with them, but I don't think they just accepted her. There will probably be more to their story in upcoming episodes. Sara seems to be brainwashed into believing Ivo is saving the human race, so that will probably be brought up.

Malcolm's back! Which makes me wonder since Oliver said he was sure Sara was dead, that she was and was brought back with the Lazarus pits like Malcolm probably was.

So Oliver's no kill rule lasted 8 episodes. But that was the third time the Count was around hurting people, so he had to be stopped for good. I liked the Oliver/Felicity moments, Ollie dropped everything to rescue her.

Yeah, I also guess from interviews with Susanna Thompson's interviews earlier that they were going to go with Malcolm being Thea's dad.

So did Ollie, Sara and Shado make Slade into Deathstroke?

 

[Human Torch]

They didn't have much of a choice. Oliver dragged her along with them in the middle of a gunfight. There might be some tension between them later.

The thing that was hard for me to believe was how Shado instantly produced the "hosin"(SP?) and gave the coordinates right in front of Sara.I'd expect Shado to be more wary.For Slade,it seems inexcusable,but he's not really at his best right now.......

 

[TheComicbookKid]

The thing that was hard for me to believe was how Shado instantly produced the "hosin"(SP?) and gave the coordinates right in front of Sara.I'd expect Shado to be more wary.For Slade,it seems inexcusable,but he's not really at his best right now.......

She had no idea who/what Sara was at that point.

Ollie still feels responsible for her and wouldn't think she's a full on traitor.

 

[Boy Scout]

She didn't know they were coordinates, though. Plus, she probably trusted Oliver's judgement. She's always been a bit less uptight about things than Slade.

 

[Human Torch]

TDK trilogy reference 208: "Let the truth have it's day"....t:

 

[regnak]

So next ep they should find the Japanese super soldier formula and give it to a dying Slade. At this point it would be a shock if they didn't, may be considered a bombshell to the non comic reading majority of the audience though.

 

[Lencho01]

Thea going be nuts when she finds out who's the daddy

It means she tried to hook up with her brother last season...

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

So I was mistaken the episode with the Count being comatose was last season, so that makes sense now. RIP Count Vertigo

 

[OnTheAir]

Luke/Leia is still worse.

lol...it's hard not to make that comparison. I guess it depends on whether or not she and Tommy ever kissed. Or worse.

 

[Lencho01]

Good riddance, Count Vertigo for me.

 

[Boy Scout]

Tommy and Thea never did anything. He considered her his little sister. And boy was he right.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Wow 111 viewing this has come so far.

 

[Human Torch]

Well,Tommy told Ollie "Have you notice how hot your sister got?....'cause I totally haven't......"

Let the disgusting speculation begin.

 

[Coconut1214]

I guess Shado's just trusting Ollie's judgement. But I do think it won't be a good thing. Like I said I think Sara's been brainwashed, so she'll probably betray them again.

Slade's too busy with his half his face being burned off. So it's understandable that he's not thinking about who Sara is. Although since he's been on the island for awhile, he's probably wondering where Oliver keeps finding women.

 

[eplo]

Best episode for Laurel by far......she actually seemed sorry to be the prosecutor

 

[kendalag]

Really enjoyed the episode ... just like almost all the episodes this season. VERY good show ... one that I think so many pigeonhole due to being on the CW.

Loved the look Slade was sporting 'pre Deathstroke' ... and you knew something was up when Moira was somehow not guilty ... and then Merlyn returns with a bombshell.

Brother Blood ... and Cyrus ... will he be Solomon Grundy? Hmmm

... preview of Barry Allen ... can't really take anything from the previews given how they're done ... but so far this show has done good introducing people so I'm hopeful for a good intro.

9/10

 

[Human Torch]

When he mentioned "Cyrus",I was hoping it would turn out to be Cyrus Vanch.He was the other villain from last year I wish returned.

I remember the showrunners building him up to be some formidable threat,but he's become a One and Done.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Arrow Is clearly best thing on CW.Only Nkita comes In it's league and It will be gone after the CW burns off the last 6 episodes.

I agree with people who say It's so much better than AoS.

With them having characters coming back from dead we can see how flash could exsist In arrow's world.While there won't be a backdoor arrow pilot for it anymore it's still a spinoff considering barry Allen will be in 2 Arrow episodes first.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Man that ending did not see it coming. Also we all now how the dude came back don't we?

onto next week an The Flash.

 

[regnak]

It was pretty dumb for Felicity to check out the Count's van by herself. She could have tipped off Quentin. If Laurel had done that and gotten captured there would have been a dozen posts blasting her by now for making Oliver kill. And she can actually handle small numbers of thugs.

 

[rks943]

Dat ending

 

[TheComicbookKid]

It was pretty dumb for Felicity to check out the Count's van by herself. She could have tipped off Quentin. If Laurel had done that and gotten captured there would have been a dozen posts blasting her by now for making Oliver kill. And she can actually handle small numbers of thugs.

I'm glad they actually addressed it immediately. I mean, of course he doesn't know who she is, so he puts it together, and taking it straight to Queen Consolidated was awesome.

I like that the writers don't completely insult are intelligence. Yeah, Ollie had his hood down but it's his building and can wipe the security footage. They didn't need to say it.

 

[Loki882]

Malcolm being alive is no surprise. I never really believed that he was dead. If Deadshot could survive taking an arrow to the eye, than Malcolm could have survived his injuries. The League of Assassins and Ra's being involved only confirmed his survival to me. Malcolm being Thea's father, on the other hand, that WAS a surprise. So wait, Thea is the daughter on an evil archer who is a major enemy of Olivers, thus making her his HALF-sister. She really is like Emiko from the GA comics.

 

[b_boy]

It was pretty dumb for Felicity to check out the Count's van by herself. She could have tipped off Quentin. If Laurel had done that and gotten captured there would have been a dozen posts blasting her by now for making Oliver kill. And she can actually handle small numbers of thugs.

I feel the same. That's why I don't want Felicity with Oliver, she will be moved from smart funny sidekick to the damnsel in distress, it' starting slow, but what everybody hated about Laurel of having only sad/drama scenes with Oliver and being in danger so Oliver could rescue her is being shifted to Felicity. I like both of them, so I would prefer that none of them was romantic linked to him for a while, because that's when they grown as characters. Here is hope that Laurel keeps off the romantic drama with Oliver like it's happening in the latest episodes and that Felicity shifts her crush from Oliver to the Flash next week.

About Thea and Tommy, I only remember one scene in season one when she tried to make out with him but she was drunk/on drugs, so nothing really nasty about it knowing what we know now. Also speaking of Thea, maybe they will push her to be speedy now? I mean, we know heavy drama will come to her, and in this episode Roy decided to help her deal with the anger by punching and talked about how he hitting robbers makes him feel better (I don't remember the exactly dialog). So there's a big chance to use those hidden archery skills and wicked aim now, and they could also speed up the process (ha, pun) by saying she has good genes?

 

[Loki882]

I wonder if Malcolm is going to try and connect with her, maybe lure her to his side?