Comics ASM #568 spoilers New ways to die starts here...

[Styleshift]

Nope.

hah the real spider-man died years ago.

THEY FILL US WITH LIES!......LIES!

I'll just assume Norman did it...

he does everything, and recently everyone

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

There's a great preview of this issue at IGN right now.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/899/899758p1.html

Awesome preview!

 

[stillanerd]

Another question...stillanerd....is WHy haven't any of the bigwigs like Doc Strange or anyone been investigating a time anomoly??

Is there not any of the high powered individuals...Watchers..anyone....does anyone care that time has been significantly altered.

I mean, we've already mentioned that no one on the entire planet cares about their swiss cheesed memories....one least bit....

But there is also no follow up with any of the powered up big guys doing any investigating of the tampering...especially you'd think Strange would be all over it since Mephisto's magics would definitely alert him that something has weird has gone down....when altering the entire earth and history also.

I would consider this more of a plot hole, farmernudie, but I absolutely agree it's a major one. Think about it? Peter Parker revealed that he was Spider-Man on live television that was no doubt broadcast to the entire world. Then, after One More Day, presumably everyone still remembers that Spider-Man unmasked and yet no one remembers who it was that was under the mask. Presumably, this would also mean that any video and audio recording, every newspaper column, blog entry, or media commentary on that mentions Peter Parker is Spider-Man has been erased or replaced by static or a blurred image or print.

And as you pointed out absolutely no one, so far as we know, in the entire Marvel Universe has yet to ask themselves “What the hell happened?”

J. Jonah Jameson would be writing op ed articles and hitting the airwaves citing that this “erasure” of Spider-Man’s real identity was proof that Spider-Man is even a greater menace that he realized, invoking all kinds of kooky conspiracy theories. SHIELD would be classifying this as one of their top priorities since a vital piece of information on an unlicensed superhero has just been compromised. Dr. Strange, as you implied, would be wondering what terrible and dark power could have done this without his knowledge. Debra Whitman would wonder why every copy of her tell-all book about Spider-Man is suddenly filled with blank pages. Every villain, hero, friend, and associate who ever knew Peter Parker or Spider-Man would wonder why they all have blank spots in their memory regarding who Spider-Man really is. The Skrulls--since they no doubt would have received transmissions from Earth in regards to this--would wonder why their intelligence reports with regards to Spider-Man is filled with no information. Hell, Peter himself would be asking what the hell was going on, but instead it’s “Ho hum, I’ve got bigger problems to deal with right now like paying the rent.”

You could take almost any ongoing series (including past Amazing runs) and make a list just like that. A list like that is GOOD. I want these things hung in front of me. One of the greatest runs in comics (IMO of course), Claremont/Byrne's X-men, had sub-plots running un-resolved for years. It's one of the things that made it great.

I mean, hell, #28 just became an "issue" with the latest issue. Which hasn't even come out yet. How dare they not reveal it?

The only ones that I think are valid "beefs" are #'s 9-12. And I'm perfectly content to let them reveal it. Or not. It won't take away my enjoyment not knowing these things.

It’s not that I don’t think these questions won’t be answered sometime down the road, iloveclones. As you said, question #28 is being addressed in the upcoming issue, as would question #13 I imagine. However, it's not that there are mystery related subplots, it’s that there has been far too many of them created and unanswered that have accumulated in such a short period of and are being piled up on top with new ones.

It’s sort of like that poem by Shel Silverstein about the girl who refused to take the garbage out and it just kept piling up higher and higher until eventually the garbage collapsed on just on her put across the entire U.S. Nothing wrong with having some mysteries as part of your story, but the longer you keep letting them accumulate, the more rushed the solutions will become.

The X-Men franchise various questions regarding Apocalpse and the Twelve is a case in point, as when Marvel finally got around to this, the identity of the member in some cases contradicted the clues that were well established. Another was the initial Hobgoblin arc in which the mystery dragged on longer than was necessary and it was revealed that he was Ned Leeds--despite the fact that Ned Leeds had already been killed in the Spider-Man vs. Wolverine one shot.

Joe Quesada and Marvel are telling us the answers are coming, that they'll all be addressed by the time Amazing Spider-Man #600 comes around. I just wonder, considering the aftermath of One More Day, whether or not Marvel is stretching it out for far longer than necessary.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

THEY FILL US WITH LIES!......LIES!

Lol! t:

 

[Shockdingo]

he does everything, and recently everyone

That ol' fox Aunt May is next on his list

edit forgot this too lol:
J. J. Jameson' review really makes me want to come back to this book; he says it has great writing by Mr. Slott, interesting developments, Norman is back, Eddie is back and it feels like a Spidey book...hmmm. Dare I? I'll debate this...I may even have to change my av...hmmm

 

[Miken Ayers]

What don't you like about the coloring?

It's got too much of a Mission Hill feel.

 

[Miken Ayers]

As far as mysteries compiling before anything get's answered is exactly what Mackie was doing when he had Amazing and PP. He also had a second Spider-Man that was really a lesser known female character, and an issue where Peter had to stop the bad guy in time to make his job interview. So is this really the era we want revisited?

 

[kainedamo]

What don't you like about the coloring?

Really doesn't suit Romita Jr's art. It's too... glossy. I prefered the colouring of World War Hulk, or even the colouring when Romita JR and JMS were on Spidey.

 

[Styleshift]

That ol' fox Aunt May is next on his list

edit forgot this too lol:
J. J. Jameson' review really makes me want to come back to this book; he says it has great writing by Mr. Slott, interesting developments, Norman is back, Eddie is back and it feels like a Spidey book...hmmm. Dare I? I'll debate this...I may even have to change my av...hmmm

The real reason Aunt May was brought back and reduced to an uninteresting supporting cast member. Hey...if otto can do it...

lol but on a more serious note I remember when Mackie tried to do something with Aunt May for the first time in years. anyone remember what it was?
Instead of fleshing her character out....he simply had Mj give her a "make over".

I can't talk about that or anything else about Mackie's run (that doesn't include the spider slayers arc.) any further without expletives...so I think I'll just stop here.

As far as mysteries compiling before anything get's answered is exactly what Mackie was doing when he had Amazing and PP. He also had a second Spider-Man that was really a lesser known female character, and an issue where Peter had to stop the bad guy in time to make his job interview. So is this really the era we want revisited?

&@&*$!

 

[J. J. Jameson]

J. J. Jameson' review really makes me want to come back to this book; he says it has great writing by Mr. Slott, interesting developments, Norman is back, Eddie is back and it feels like a Spidey book...hmmm. Dare I? I'll debate this...I may even have to change my av...hmmm

Just give it a chance and see what you think. It's a breath of fresh air to me.

 

[Styleshift]

One thing you can compare BND to mackie's run without being biased is the fact that Peter was returned to his *I need a roommate status* with a supporting cast of friends that have been underused. thats not the case of the new cast members, but the new cast members are pretty much just rehashes of old characters.

I like Vin, but he reminds me of JJJ, Flash Thompson, and Harry all in one.
JJJ- I feel a sense of jealously from him, and instead of focusing on doing the right thing he'd rather deal with problems that are obviously personal to him and justify it by feeling that "he is doing the right thing to stop a great threat that isn't there". ASM 564 was a great issue that pointed that out.

Flash- served in the army (i consider that a form of law enforcement) and you've got to love those stories where flash got himself beat up or captured while WEARING a spidey outfit....hint hint...wink wink.

Harry- Vin shares the same shy guy traits that harry had when he first appeared. "lets go on a date Carlie! No? you'd rather go with Pete, but he's not interested? ok than..."

not a quote or even a story development but thats the current theme of the Vin carlie Pete triange. same as the harry mj pete triangle.

plus did i mention that pete and in are roomates like Harry and vin?

Carlie is reminiscent of Deb whitman and Jean de wolfe.

Lily reminds me of ms. arrow, but is pretty original, so I'll give them that.

IMO when buckingham started writing the book I felt thats the right direction if they wanted a single spidey. He had lame stories, like "the virus" someone whom we shall never ever see again...and type face...oooooo.

but most of his run was pretty solid IMO, his arcs with the goblin IMO are one of the best goblin tales I have EVER read.

 

[Miken Ayers]

The real reason Aunt May was brought back and reduced to an uninteresting supporting cast member. Hey...if otto can do it...

lol but on a more serious note I remember when Mackie tried to do something with Aunt May for the first time in years. anyone remember what it was?
Instead of fleshing her character out....he simply had Mj give her a "make over".

I can't talk about that or anything else about Mackie's run (that doesn't include the spider slayers arc.) any further without expletives...so I think I'll just stop here.





&@&*$!

Checkmate?

 

[kguillou]

I don't understand something, for all these years, Marvel has been trying to get Spider-man/Peter Parker to this point, where is everything is "classic" again. So if that's what they wanted all along then why did they have JMS waste 6 years of his life doing all this other stuff to Spidey like: Fighting Morlun and dying, spider-totem stuff, organic powers, becoming a teacher, reuniting with Mary Jane, sins past stuff, why did Marvel let JMS do all this stuff when they've been trying all along to get him to this "BND" status???

 

[Styleshift]

man screw omd. I really think new ways to die is off to a great start....
let's all put our differences about the new status quo aside....for now.

 

[Farren]

There is definately something off in the coloring. The foreground seems to pop a little too much for me (based on the IGN preview).

 

[Miken Ayers]

man screw omd. I really think BND is off to a great start....
let's all put our differences about the new status quo aside....for now.

F that. Ever since some fans paid money out of their pocket to advertise in Previews for Spider-Girl that SUPPOSEDLY gave it a relaunch which at the time was a stay of execution. That raised the bar for comic fans. Reading something you like and not reading what you dislike is no longer enough. You gotta be obnoxious or eccentric to get your way. And your aggressiveness can't slow down since fans on the other side have the same rights and capabilities as you.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

F that. Ever since some fans paid money out of their pocket to advertise in Previews for Spider-Girl that SUPPOSEDLY gave it a relaunch which at the time was a stay of execution. That raised the bar for comic fans. Reading something you like and not reading what you dislike is no longer enough. You gotta be obnoxious or eccentric to get your way. And your aggressiveness can't slow down since fans on the other side have the same rights and capabilities as you.

Being "obnoxious" and "eccentric to get your way" helps bolster your argument? I think it just pisses off the creators who might visit here. The fact is, accumulative Spider-Man sales are higher than they were a year ago. ASM is lower than ASM was a year ago, but that's because it's coming out three times a month. However, the three ASM books versus ASM, Friendly and Sensational from a year ago, means they're doing better sales-wise today. So you can hold your breath and hope your obnoxious, eccentric attitude destroys and reverses all the changes since Brand New Day started, but the only way anything will change is if sales seriously dropped to the point where it started to get mainstream press attention (like how the NY Times actually did an article about the clone-saga alienating old time fans in 1996). And honestly, there's no reason for that to happen, because the quality in the current books are much better than they were under JMS. And this is coming from someone who was definitely no fan of 'One More Day'... but really, time to let go. It's sorta just getting embarrasing now.

 

[imdaly]

F that. Ever since some fans paid money out of their pocket to advertise in Previews for Spider-Girl that SUPPOSEDLY gave it a relaunch which at the time was a stay of execution. That raised the bar for comic fans. Reading something you like and not reading what you dislike is no longer enough. You gotta be obnoxious or eccentric to get your way. And your aggressiveness can't slow down since fans on the other side have the same rights and capabilities as you.

You really DO have a warped view on things, don't you?

Being obnoxious and eccentric to get your way is NOT the way to go about things. Spider-Girl fans were not being obnoxious or eccentric. They put their message out in a mature, well-planned out way and showed just how dedicated to the character and book they are.

You on the other hand are whining, complaining, and taking every chance you can to put down the book and those that are enjoying it, oftentimes lately by (inaccurately) spoiling a book for everyone in your own biased view in attempt to convince other people not to buy it, in hopes that maybe Marvel will somehow get sick enough of your crying that they'll suddenly say "ALRIGHT! WE'LL CHANGE IT BACK, OKAY? Just PLEASE stop crying!"


...that ain't gonna happen, buddy.

Only thing you're going to be seen as when you react that way is someone who didn't get their way with someone else's character and who's gonna cry about it, like a little baby wanting its bottle, until you get it. You'll just be one of those people from the internet who are "angry over a comic book".

 

[kainedamo]

the quality in the current books are much better than they were under JMS.

You're joking, of course?

And this is coming from someone who was definitely no fan of 'One More Day'... but really, time to let go. It's sorta just getting embarrasing now.

That's very insulting.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

You're joking, of course?

Mystical totem crap, "Sins Past", "The Other", Aunt May's house getting blown up by that one guy, living at Avenger's Mansion, Iron-Spidey, the unmasking and 'One More Day'... uhm, nope. No jokes here.

That's very insulting.

Well, gee, go cry about it. Seriously, develop a thicker skin if you're insulted by me having a different opinion. How can you be insulted, when I wasn't even talking to you?

 

[kainedamo]

Mystical totem crap, "Sins Past", "The Other", Aunt May's house getting blown up by that one guy, living at Avenger's Mansion, Iron-Spidey, the unmasking and 'One More Day'... uhm, nope. No jokes here.

Mature Peter Parker.
Good jokes.
Getting MJ and Peter back together.
Fantastic Pete MJ moments.
The first Morlun/Ezekiel arc remains one of my all time favourite Spidey stories.
The 9/11 issue.
Writing Aunt May so good that she wasn't a waste of a character.
The conversation issue where Aunt May finds out the truth.
Writing a great New Avengers story.

On and on and on. JMS' run was top quality. What have we got now? Progression thrown out the window, writing that tries too hard to be "classic", new characters that are just mixes of old characters, lame new villains (do we really need a new Goblin?), lame mysteries (does anyone REALLY care who Menace or Jackpot are?), too many unanswered questions, continuity ****ed right up the ass, ANOTHER Kraven relative (highly original storytelling in BND, huh?), the most anticipated arc is basically just throwing everything they can think of into one story (Venom, yet another new Venom creature, Norman Osborn) they might as well rename New Ways To Die - PLEEEEEEEEASE READ ME!!, Peter lacks maturity and the book in general is like he is suffering from a mid life crisis, the book lacks all of the maturity, nuances, and actual storytelling ability of JMS' run. Not to mention that Harry is back from the dead and the marriage is just forgotten about. I could go on.

Well, gee, go cry about it. Seriously, develop a thicker skin if you're insulted by me having a different opinion. How can you be insulted, when I wasn't even talking to you?

Your comment was directed at all people that aren't fans of OMD/BND. If anything, you seem to dislike us for having an opinion. We should just "get over it" and start purchasing the book again, despite the fact that we don't enjoy the direction. What kind of stupid logic is that?

 

[arachnid-guy]

Things have definitely heated up....

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Mature Peter Parker.

Really? In what way? I'm truly curious.

Good jokes.

Stilted, overwrought dialogue IMHO. I read JMS for years, and maybe smiled once or twice, but I can't remember ever laughing out loud at any scene he wrote. If you want good jokes check out Joe Kelly's 'Deadpool'. Now, Kelly coming on to Spider-Man... I'm excited about that.

Getting MJ and Peter back together.

And then he and Joe Quesada split them up in 'One More Day'.... you do know this guy you're defending, is one of the chief architects of that story, right? And that wasn't the first time they split up under JMS, actually. The Dr Doom airport issue was one of my favorite JMS issues, but let's not fool ourselves. Howard Mackie brought them back together in his last work, that ASM annual where MJ came back from that stupid storyline where she was kidnapped and presumed dead. JMS before coming on-board, requested MJ be absent from the book. So very abruptly and awkwardly, as soon as MJ returned from her kidnapping, she and Peter seperated.

Fantastic Pete MJ moments.

It seems like you're repeating yourself. You've yet to cite an actual storyline you like.

The first Morlun/Ezekiel arc remains one of my all time favourite Spidey stories.

Whew! Finally! An actual story. I was wondering if this was going someplace. Personally, I liked the suspense of Morlun hunting him and the epic JRJr-drawn battle in one of the issues, but to me that story was at best a B- or a C+, because... (a) Ezekial was and will always remain a crappy character with no real explanation that doesn't come off as contrived or incoherent... (b) it will always stick in my mind as that arc that introduced that whole "Spider-Man wasn't created by a random accident, but a pre-destined magical occurance, dictated by some animal totem crap that is passed down over the generations" BS (which personally I find much worse than any retcons that have been delivered in BND) and... (c) a bad guy should be able to sell himself. He doesn't need Spidey saying, as he did about Morlun, "that's the hardest I've ever been hit!" or "I've never been so scared!" I mean, c'mon...

The 9/11 issue.

Exploitative, awful dreck. I admire what the tribute book tried to accomplish, but a fictional character like Spider-Man felt truly out of place in a real-time tragedy where thousands of real people had just died. Don't even get me started on Dr Doom crying.

Writing Aunt May so good that she wasn't a waste of a character.
The conversation issue where Aunt May finds out the truth.

I'll give you this one. He did write Aunt May well (her dressing in Iron-Man armor aside, unless that was one of the other writers). But DeMatties wrote her even better, and ASM #400 will always be a better issue than the JMS-written one where she finds out the truth a second time. She should never have come back to begin with, but I can't blame JMS for that.

Writing a great New Avengers story.

Uh, what? Moving to Avengers Mansion, was a huge "jump the shark" moment for Spider-Man. But hey, he's jumped around fifty, so who is even counting anymore?

On and on and on.

lol, not really...

JMS' run was top quality.

What have we got now?

Something that's rebooted all that organic webshooter, unmasked, mystical totem, "other", Gwen Stacy knocked-up garbage?

Your comment was directed at all people that aren't fans of OMD/BND.

Actually, I didn't like OMD (if you had bothered to read my post). But you can't blame the writers of BND for that. They're taking lemons and making them into lemonaid. They're producing some fantastic stories and the further we get into it, the more it seems like they made the right decision by giving the franchise a reboot. I wish OMD was handled better or just replaced with a superior story. But what has come since has been mostly A+ work, with the possible exception of Gale.

If anything, you seem to dislike us for having an opinion. We should just "get over it" and start purchasing the book again, despite the fact that we don't enjoy the direction. What kind of stupid logic is that?

I didn't say you need to start purchasing the book again. Do whatever you want with your money. But the whinging and moaning and veiled threats of boycotts and sales-watching are a waste of your time and that's why I said it's embarrasing to watch. But hey, do what you want. I can't say I care all that much. I just thought your faux-outrage about being "highly insulted" was kind of funny, that's all.

 

[UK_Stu]

Spot on JJJ's Ulcer - that was a great post. I agree with pretty much everything you've said there.

 

[kainedamo]

Really? In what way? I'm truly curious.

His inner monologue, and how he basically carried himself. It felt like you were reading about a grownup as opposed to a flat character.

Stilted, overwrought dialogue IMHO. I read JMS for years, and maybe smiled once or twice, but I can't remember ever laughing out loud at any scene he wrote. If you want good jokes check out Joe Kelly's 'Deadpool'. Now, Kelly coming on to Spider-Man... I'm excited about that.

What you call stilted and overwrought, I thought was nuanced and thoughtful.

And then he and Joe Quesada split them up in 'One More Day'.... you do know this guy you're defending, is one of the chief architects of that story, right?

One thing I don't like about JMS is that he didn't tell Joe Q where to stuff it. There are numerous interviews where JMS makes it clear that he was not happy with the direction of OMD, but Joe Q is the man in charge so he'd do as he was told.

And that wasn't the first time they split up under JMS, actually. The Dr Doom airport issue was one of my favorite JMS issues, but let's not fool ourselves. Howard Mackie brought them back together in his last work, that ASM annual where MJ came back from that stupid storyline where she was kidnapped and presumed dead. JMS before coming on-board, requested MJ be absent from the book. So very abruptly and awkwardly, as soon as MJ returned from her kidnapping, she and Peter seperated.

This shows a misunderstanding of something that I thought almost every Spidey fan that read JMS' run knew. It's wrong for me to assume that, anyway. But it goes like this - before JMS came on, Spidey was in a mess. The sales were around 40, 000 and the stories were crap. JMS wanted to concentrate on Peter Parker. And then outward from that, he'd concentrate on bringing back in Aunt May and MJ. It was very effective, I thought. He made the decision that he would concentrate on Peter Parker first, and then fix his relationships with the other two most important characters in his life.

It seems like you're repeating yourself. You've yet to cite an actual storyline you like.

You yourself cited the Dr. Doom issue. There isn't one particular issue, just many, many touching moments showing Peter's relationship with MJ as a foundation of strength for him. When he's lying next to her thanking God for her, when he thinks the fight with Morlun might kill him so he tries to call her, when she's trying to be supportive while half-asleep and Peter made goopey pancakes. Many little things, conversations between them in every issue after they got back together.

The relationship was a foundation of strength for Peter, and now that's gone. The book is missing a lot without it, I feel.

Whew! Finally! An actual story. I was wondering if this was going someplace. Personally, I liked the suspense of Morlun hunting him and the epic JRJr-drawn battle in one of the issues, but to me that story was at best a B- or a C+, because... (a) Ezekial was and will always remain a crappy character with no real explanation that doesn't come off as contrived or incoherent... (b) it will always stick in my mind as that arc that introduced that whole "Spider-Man wasn't created by a random accident, but a pre-destined magical occurance, dictated by some animal totem crap that is passed down over the generations" BS (which personally I find much worse than any retcons that have been delivered in BND) and... (c) a bad guy should be able to sell himself. He doesn't need Spidey saying, as he did about Morlun, "that's the hardest I've ever been hit!" or "I've never been so scared!" I mean, c'mon...

One thing that you're forgetting is that it's all subjective. It's your opinion, you don't like JMS, that's fine. But many people did, and JMS won an Eisner for his work on the book. I'll give you one thing - I agree with you that some of the dialogue from Spidey was a bit forced in that first arc, "that's the hardest I've ever been hit!", "this is the worst guy I've ever fought", and so on. But that first arc was so intense. Spider-Man had never, ever had a fight like that with anyone. Being hunted by a relentless enemy over a 24 hour period like that.

The only time I ever had a problem with the totem stuff was in The Other. Before that, it was simply an interesting philosophical perspective. It was enough to accept that it was what Ezekiel believed, and that Peter disagreed with him. People that didn't like it, I feel they blew it out of proportion.

When Spidey went to Africa with Ezekiel, and Peter is talking to him with a smirk on his face, with these spiders crawling over him, I thought that was so cool.

Exploitative, awful dreck. I admire what the tribute book tried to accomplish, but a fictional character like Spider-Man felt truly out of place in a real-time tragedy where thousands of real people had just died. Don't even get me started on Dr Doom crying.

That's your opinion. Personally, don't laugh now, that issue made me cry. I've never felt like that reading a comic. It wasn't exploitative, it was truthful.

I'll give you this one. He did write Aunt May well (her dressing in Iron-Man armor aside, unless that was one of the other writers). But DeMatties wrote her even better, and ASM #400 will always be a better issue than the JMS-written one where she finds out the truth a second time. She should never have come back to begin with, but I can't blame JMS for that.

I think many people would agree with you that she should have stayed dead in ASM #400. But since she isn't dead, it's great that JMS added so much more depth to her.

Now, that depth is completely gone.

Uh, what? Moving to Avengers Mansion, was a huge "jump the shark" moment for Spider-Man. But hey, he's jumped around fifty, so who is even counting anymore?

That's not something that JMS was in control over, but he wrote it very, very well.

Something that's rebooted all that organic webshooter, unmasked, mystical totem, "other", Gwen Stacy knocked-up garbage?

Jenkins gave Spider-Man organic webshooters, not JMS.

A problem I have with some BND fans (only some BND fans) is that they seem ignorant to the fact that Joe Q clearly made the decision to have the character written into a corner. The unmasking (not something that JMS is responsible for) was a plot device to write the character into a corner.

Actually, I didn't like OMD (if you had bothered to read my post). But you can't blame the writers of BND for that. They're taking lemons and making them into lemonaid. They're producing some fantastic stories and the further we get into it, the more it seems like they made the right decision by giving the franchise a reboot. I wish OMD was handled better or just replaced with a superior story. But what has come since has been mostly A+ work, with the possible exception of Gale.

The only good thing I've seen from BND is that Peter has a cast of supporting characters, he's actually in social settings where he has a bunch of friends.

The franchise didn't need a reboot to accomplish this, or anything else that's happened since OMD.

I like how you don't respond to my criticisms of BND, by the way.

I didn't say you need to start purchasing the book again. Do whatever you want with your money. But the whinging and moaning and veiled threats of boycotts and sales-watching are a waste of your time and that's why I said it's embarrasing to watch. But hey, do what you want. I can't say I care all that much. I just thought your faux-outrage about being "highly insulted" was kind of funny, that's all.

I will do what I want, thanks very much.

And I do hope the sales drop. Because that is the only way they will change the book back. Because, believe it or not, I would love to read Spider-Man again, but not while they are telling stories of this continuity ****.