Assassin's Creed IV

[ChrisBaleBatman]

If AC IV has done anything for me, it's highlight how empty and void of character AC 3 was. Such a vast, beautiful frontier and bloody nothing to do in it. Such a shameful waste of a great setting.

One thing I DO wish had carried over into AC IV though, is the homestead missions. I'd love to have something like that with the Jackdaw crew. It would have been great to get to know each member personally, you like you do Adewale. Really make the Jackdaw feel like it has some character and flare.

Another thing I'm noticing, from a story perspective, is the games are coming too reliant on historical figures. In the Ezio games, sure you had the villains and a few key people, but some of the strongest and most important characters were people like Claudia Auditore, La Volpe... People who were more fiction for the narrative than plucked from history. I wouldn't have minded if Edward had a few more close crew members etc to help him up. Or at least give Adewale more to do as his offsider.

Man, I really liked Claudia and La Volpe too. The theory I've heard about being more true to historical figures and them placing more significance on them is that the closer they move the timeline to ours, the more knowledgeable the players may be about the period, historical figures and whatever historical inaccuracies may come out of creating fiction.

Personally, I say **** it. Everyone should know it's fiction, and not an historical documentary. To me, anyone who will rip AC for 'historical inaccuracies' is about the same as the people who tore into "The Davinci Code", thinking it was a true story not knowing it was a work of fiction.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

This has easily been my fav AC title so far. The only complaints I have are tiny nitpicks that I'm sure the majority of ppl don't notice. Would deff not mind them doing a "brotherhood" or "revelations" with Edward and this setting. Love the hell out of this pirate setting. Really don't see them topping this.

Dude, that's great to hear. I skipped on buying this, just because I wasn't as confident as before. But hearing it's that good....man, I'll have to pick it up soon.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

I love this game, it is my favourite, I didn't like Edward at first but he grew on me. Such a great character up there with Ezio.

[BLACKOUT]I really enjoy how this game ends where most Assassin's Creed games would start. This isn't a game about someone joining the Assassin's and taking up their cause, it's about a guy trying to find his place in the world. We play Edward as a man, we never truly get to see the Assassin he becomes, so I would love another game, with Edward, set in England before his death. [/BLACKOUT]

Regarding the historical figures, I love that they use more and more. One of the huge draws for me is that these characters they create fit perfectly into history, take Anne Bonny for example, a real historical character and we get this fictional ending for her. I love that these Assassin's Creed games always leave room for the possibility that this could be real. Edward, Connor, Ezio and Altair all could be real people, but because they are Assassin's they were kept from the history books so they can explain missing chapters of real history like Anne Bonny through these characters.

Big up to the writers of the AC series, so much research must take place because you cannot fault how well they have crafted their characters into real history. But I'm a sucker for history being connected with modern day and having unsolved mysteries is always so much fun. Like this series and National Treasure as well!

Also, this is the only AC game where I have noticed the soundtrack. It's such an epic one.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Hmmm What if they did London and France in the one game? Edward as a protagonist, sailing between both. I would be veeeeeeeeeeery happy with that :P

 

[Benstamania]

Ubi pretty much said Conner is done (thankfully, what a prick) so I hope they keep Edward around for a while (and I haven't even played 4 yet.)

I've wanted a French Revolution setting for a while though. I'd be happy with either.

 

[Iceman]

Did AC3 sell less than the others?

 

[Benstamania]

Not real sure on sales.. All I know as a US History buff, more so the amazing period that was the Revolution... I *hated* the game. I also thought Conner was an unlikable *****e.

 

[Iceman]

I've only just got the game, yet to start it. But I've heard a few people say the same. Wanted to see what Ubisoft thought & their reason for not doing anymore with Connor. Sales would explain it, otherwise I guess they're just acting on fan feedback.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

For the next NEW Assassin, I would love to have a character who was born into the order. Someone who has actually grown as an experienced Assassin and lived and breathed his Creed the whole life. Just for a change.

Personally, if I was writing it, it would be set in Japan... I think that setting would really suit a character like the one I just mentioned, a character who prides honour and respect as the highest trait. Also, I'd make the Assassin female, a female Ninja/Samurai type character who falls in love with a male Templar. Maybe he's really low level but he survives an attack and she takes him in or something and over time becomes curious about him. The order can disapprove but they both have a fascination with one another. And there should be revenge... NEEDS revenge in there somewhere. Her parents were killed by Templars? I dunno :P

I'd love a story that feels really personal again, rather than grandiose or the shades of grey that AC 3 and IV explore. I'd love a story that feels more a genre tale, story of tragedy, romance and revenge. I think that would be pretty neat. AC 2 spanned 10 years but it never felt like it. It always felt like a personal story for Ezio and his family. AC 3 felt way too disjointed. AC IV was better but there were still chapters where you felt like the characters were getting developed more in between the sequences than the ones you actually played.

 

[Iceman]

I'd like to see a female assassin next.

So you don't want any more games with Edward before the new ones you're talking about?

 

[Benstamania]

I have no real desire to play a female to be honest. I know whenever someone says that they're deemed sexist.. But.. Eh. Plus people often say we never played as one, but we did in Liberation.



I'd still take French Revolution over anything at this point. However, what I'm hearing of Edward I wouldn't mind if they continued on as him... But like with Ezio.. I often feel playing as the same character for more than one game gets.. Boring.

 

[Destructus86]

OK, so I know the modern day stuff has been trimed down and is totally option now...but I gotta know...do we at least find out what happened with that woman/entity that was released from her prison? You know...the ancient one that was set free in order to save the world.

 

[jacobed]

I'm sick of hearing about setting it in Japan. Talk about a boring idea

 

[cherokeesam]

I have no real desire to play a female to be honest. I know whenever someone says that they're deemed sexist.. But.. Eh. Plus people often say we never played as one, but we did in Liberation.



I'd still take French Revolution over anything at this point. However, what I'm hearing of Edward I wouldn't mind if they continued on as him... But like with Ezio.. I often feel playing as the same character for more than one game gets.. Boring.

No matter how popular ACIV or Edward gets, I don't really see them continuing his story. The Golden Age of Piracy is pretty much covered from bookend to bookend in this story, and historically ended at the same time as the game. Granted, piracy still continued and continues all around the world (viz., Somalia), but the age of the "arr, matey" pirate really only lasts for the first two decades of the 18th century. Technically, just the second, which is exactly what we get here.

They could sequel ACIV and go back in time about fifty years or so to the Age of the Buccaneers, which is still pretty much the same Caribbean pirate setting; it's just that back then, in Henry Morgan's day, it was more of a national war privateer thing --- English pirates vs. French pirates and Spanish pirates. Edward belongs to the "against all flags" era, where ships of any nationality were fair game.

As for Edward in Europe, I don't really see an exciting historical era in that time period at all. Not much for him to do once he goes home.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Did AC3 sell less than the others?

No, ACIII had the 2nd highest single console sales save for the original game.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I'm sick of hearing about setting it in Japan. Talk about a boring idea

Medieval Japan boring? I'm not computing.

 

[Benstamania]

They didn't really have massive buildings and whatnot outside of castles tho...

 

[Tron Bonne]

So?

 

[ProjectPat2280]

They didn't really have massive buildings and whatnot outside of castles tho...

Neither does AC IV and its setting only helped it to be a great AC title.


I think its only a matter of time before we get a Japan setting. Ninjas and Assassins will eventually cross over in this series, no doubt.

 

[cherokeesam]

Medieval Japan boring? I'm not computing.

"Boring" is probably the wrong word; "overdone" would be closer to the mark.

Medieval Japan video games are a dime a dozen. Even though Ubisoft would undoubtedly do a fantastic job at researching the history to create an authentic experience, it's still something we've seen a thousand times before.

 

[misjuevos]

i guess no one ever played tenchu. i would love to see tenchu brought back. maybe if thief does well tenchu might get dusted off for a next gen release.

in those regards i would say assassin's creed could take a lesson from tenchu. you had multiple lead characters who's stories were different perspectives of the same missions. so you could play the male or female character and play the same levels, but the stories would be a little different. one character was sent to kill a lord and the other was sent to kill an underling. this would allow for a male and female lead character to satisfy everyone.

i agree also. i am tired of people being trained or brought in as assassins. i want another master assassin like altair was. he was the only one who knew what he was doing.

 

[Benstamania]

I loved Tenchu.. But... I want a new Tenchu game, not Assassin's Creed trying to be Tenchu.

I just feel AC has to visit the French Revolution..

 

[dude stannis]

OK, so I know the modern day stuff has been trimed down and is totally option now...but I gotta know...do we at least find out what happened with that woman/entity that was released from her prison? You know...the ancient one that was set free in order to save the world.

She's [BLACKOUT]trapped in electricity currents/the internet, waiting for someone to posses. The guy who tries to manipulate you into getting possessed gets gunned down by Abstergo troops.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ubi pretty much said Conner is done (thankfully, what a prick) so I hope they keep Edward around for a while (and I haven't even played 4 yet.)

I've wanted a French Revolution setting for a while though. I'd be happy with either.

I adore ACIII, even with all its problems. I really like Connor, and the setting was perfection to me. It saddens me that it was rushed and now we won't we more of the character and the period.

This reminds me of Altair. I fall for character, and then in the next game they are pushed aside, and suddenly the next character gets three games after they improve the problems in terms of gameplay and the first character gets the short end of the stick. Altair and Connor were the growing pains characters.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

On different topic, I really want to know what made Haytham turn to the Templars. I don't necessarily want a game on the dude, but id LOVE to see why he turned his back on the Assassins. Of course I'm assuming he was an assassin like his father at some point. Did Edward become a templar, raising Haytham that way all along, or was it Haytham that turned against his father?