BvS At what point of his career should the Affleck!Batman be?

[Gamingboy]

Here's the thing, we know that the Ben Affleck Batman will be portrayed as somebody who is more experienced than Superman and who's been at it for a few years. But I'm wondering: Just what part of Batman's career is Affleck's Batman going to be?

Like, here's what I would like to see:

• I'd like to think that he'd been around for maybe four or five years, having faced most (but not all) of his rogues.
• I figure he still wouldn't have fought Mr. Freeze (a good adaptation of Hearts of Ice is just screaming for an Affleck-written-and-directed film), Two-Face (I still want to see a multiple-film arc with Harvey), Ra's Al Ghul, Bane (unlikely to be adapted while Affleck is Batman due to the fact Rises is still so fresh, but...), Man-Bat, Killer Croc or Harley Quinn (although he would have fought the Joker).
• He would be no stranger to the supernatural or superpowered beings like Clayface or Poison Ivy, but they would have been either relatively recent, shortly after Superman debuted (I kind of presume that this film will take place at least a few weeks after MOS), or have not made public appearances (I.e. The Mad Monk, who is a vampire and was the first supernatural foe fought by Batman in a story, might have been fought by Affleck-Batman, but it wouldn't have been public or acknowledged).
• He'd still mainly be a urban myth, never officially confirmed to exist but with most agreeing that somebody is beating up the maniacs.
• Robin would be about a year or two (or a few movies) away, but perhaps Batman would start realizing that he could use a partner- perhaps the meeting with Superman will make him open his eyes a bit.

That's what I think, anyway... what do you think?

 

[HighFivingMF]

I want Robin. So that far.

 

[Spoonman]

I want him to be a very experienced Batman without going as far as The Dark Knight Returns of course. If this Batman is around 40 like Affleck is in real life I preffer he has 8-10 years of experience under his belt already. I was content with seeing how a gradual progression would be for Batman with Bale's version, but this time around I'd like a fully formed Batman with most of his expertise, gadgets, vehicles, optimal suit and all.

 

[batman_1989_]

He should be like Batman in the first season of TAS

 

[BrlntDsgse]

4-6 years would be good, portray him as around 38-39...that way he's had enough experience but not around so long that it's unrealistic for him to still be an "urban legend" outside of Gotham...AND that's just long enough that he could've met a 13 yr old Dick in his secondyear as Batman and have Dick be around 16-17 now(ready to transition to Nightwing at the end of the next solo Batman movie)

 

[godisawesome]

Already having met Dick Grayson but not adopted him yet.

 

[Malcolm Reynold]

Similar to the Arkhamverse where he is familiar with most of his Rogue's but they still challenge him.

 

[jonathancrane]

Since they cast a seasoned actor, they don't have to do the training/Year One bull****. Just cut to him kicking arse on the streets and encountering a new threat.

 

[Sun_Down]

I like the idea of Bats being fairly well established, at least as far as GPD is concerned, but still sort of urban legend status outside Gotham's underworld. Then his encounter with Superman will put him on the national map.

 

[Skrilla31]

I still think this Batman is gonna be the same Batman we saw in the Nolan movies, or at least just a reinterpretation (or extension) of that same basic character.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I'm thinking Batman has been around for several years. He's not publicly known, he's an urban myth whose existence can only be confirmed by a select few within the GCPD and the bad guys he beats up. He's faced a fair number of his most notorious villains, including having already faced The Joker multiple times. He doesn't have a sidekick yet, though I'm thinking he's at the place in his development where adopting Dick Grayson and mentoring his first Robin is right round the corner for him, IE his first solo film.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

something like year 6 or so. i hope they make him closer to cavill's age if a little older then 33.

 

[Stringer]

Whatever age he needs to be at to start Dick Grayson's storyline.

 

[Gamingboy]

Since they cast a seasoned actor, they don't have to do the training/Year One bull****. Just cut to him kicking arse on the streets and encountering a new threat.

Yeah, I feel like if they give more than a brief one or two minute flashback to the origin, they are giving way too much time.

 

[DigificWriter]

In order for this to realistically work within the confines of what MoS established, this Batman has to have kept a fairly low profile, which, for me, rules out his having faced a lot of his more high-profile adversaries since I can't see him having saved Gotham from the likes of Joker, Riddler, etc. without word having leaked out, and we know that Clark is seen as an abberation and his actions as novel.

For that reason, I can't really see this Batman having more than a few years under his belt at most since the longer he operates, the greater the chance of word of his exploits leaking out becomes.

 

[vrivasfl]

Agreed with above. Definitely passed all the Year One stuff. He's fought the mob. That's old news. I would prefer not to see re-interpretations of the villains from the Nolan trilogy, so I would prefer them to have been faced already and are either in Arkham or prison or dead by this point. That leaves it open for Batman to have stand alone films later facing more supernatural foes that have been dying for a big screen treatment. Firefly. Man-Bat. Clayface. Mr. Freeze (we desperately need a new version). Poison Ivy (Her too).

Also, Robin. Preferably one that is already established as Robin and is old enough to have been Robin for a few years and is ready to go out on his own.

 

[Sub-Zero]

i'm saying he's a 8-10 year veteran. dick grayson is 20, jason is dead, and tim is robin, but won't be in this movie. joker, twoface, etc all have existed, but the only one who knows for sure that batman exists is gordon.

 

[RAE072]

I like the idea of Bats being fairly well established, at least as far as GPD is concerned, but still sort of urban legend status outside Gotham's underworld. Then his encounter with Superman will put him on the national map.

I'm good with this.

 

[DigificWriter]

IF this Batman has faced any high-profile adversaries, I'd expect them to be the likes of Clock King, Baby Doll, Red Claw, and others, rather than the likes of Joker, Riddler, Penguin, etc.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I'd like to see Killer Croc and Mr. Freeze in future bat films, as well as the likes of Riddler, Deadshot, and maybe Mad Hatter (love how messed up they can make that character when done right). since the Joker is borderline inevitable I could see them using the Harley Quinn story to re-introduce Joker.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I think he should either have adopted Dick Grayson already, or he should adopt him and start his story in the solo film. He'll have fought some of his main enemies already

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

I want Year Two Batman. He's set into his role; gotten some battle wounds and scars from his time as Batman, but he's still not accomplished. Still has a lot to go through; same with Clark Kent/Superman.

I would then have a solo movie where we go further into the mythos of Batman. His rogues gallery, his origins, his detective and crimefighting skills, get very personal with him. This "Man of Steel" should only serve as a reintroduction of the character, but further sequels and solo films should be more of what Nolan did--- separate chapters of the Batman's life; watching him grow stronger and better.

 

[Yurka]

Batfleck should be in his prime with Gotham under control, and he feels that Superman showing up is unnecessary and changes everything. No Robin at all.

 

[haephestus]

I'm not sure where the new Batman should be in his new career. The information provided to date is almost contradictory.

Based on Man of Steel alone, the "idea" of superheroes with secret identities fighting supervillains appears to be somewhat new. Even if Batman maintained a low profile, after fighting crime and supervillains for 10+ years, surely the "Batman" would have to be somewhat well known outside of Gotham City, particularly by journalists like Lois Lane and Perry White. I guess it's possible that the GCPD or the city's government basically ordered the press not to publicise Batman's activities to prevent other vigilantes or to prevent "escalation", but that seems somewhat unlikely. This issue could conceivably be glossed over in the sequel by a throw-away comment about how the public/press can't ignore the existence of heroes like Batmand and Superman any more, but it's still a little jarring.

In order to conceivably partner with Superman, the new Batman must be experienced in fighting superpowered/supernatural villains and not just street thugs and crime lords. I'd also expect the new Batman to have LOTS of great gadgets to help him fight more powerful enemies, including a robust utility belt, multiple Bat-suits for various environments and a range of transportation.

I think the Batman from the various Arkham Asylum/City video games is a good compromise between the "realism" of Nolan's Batman and the comic book Batman. I don't think it's likely that we'll see Robin, but perhaps there could be mention of a protoge working independently in Bludhaven? I'm not sure Affleck would have signed up for too many films, so it would be best to "build in" a replacement Batman. At least one of the solo Batman films could be a prequel to MOS2 to introduce Robin or that could be fleshed out in a Nightwing film or just in flashbacks in a solo Batman film.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ The above is exactly why I think we'll bA version of the Arkham Batman would actually work rather well, but I still don't think this Batman will have been active for longer than a few years at most or have fought many, if any, of his more a-List adversaries.