Sci-Fi Avatar: The Way Of Water

[Schlosser85]

I’m still confused why the entire cast from the first movie is returning, some of them from the dead.

 

[squeekness]

Flashbacks?

 

[Iceman]

I'd rather see more new faces. The original cast wasn't too memorable.

 

[Schlosser85]

Flashbacks?

They’ve said Quaritch is the villain in the sequels.

 

[squeekness]

They’ve said Quaritch is the villain in the sequels.

Maybe it's like the comics, dead isn't really dead, lol.

 

[dark_b]

99% news about avatar sequels is old actors coming back.

 

[Schlosser85]

Even annoying henchman Wainfleet who got satisfyingly stomped to death by space rhinos is back, apparently.

 

[terry78]

Cameron must have something up his sleeve, like Earth has been cloning soldiers and ****.

 

[Iceman]

They’ve said Quaritch is the villain in the sequels.

Oh

 

[Loki882]

Avatar-Quaritch, it'd be amusingly ironic. Although Cameron better get a move on with those sequels if he wants to keep Stephen Lang as the baddie. The man is no spring chicken and waiting a decade in-between sequels just ain't going to cut it.

 

[Iceman]

I thought they might go with a new baddie. This has dulled my interest a bit. Thank **** Kate was announced.

 

[rashad]

I thought they might go with a new baddie. This has dulled my interest a bit. Thank **** Kate was announced.

Kate's casting still not enough to bring me back.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Even annoying henchman Wainfleet who got satisfyingly stomped to death by space rhinos is back, apparently.

Really? I hope we get a good explanation for these dead characters coming back.

 

[Matt]

I'd rather see more new faces. The original cast wasn't too memorable.

In fairness, effects aside, is there really anything about the first movie that was particularly memorable?

I’m still confused why the entire cast from the first movie is returning, some of them from the dead.

Even annoying henchman Wainfleet who got satisfyingly stomped to death by space rhinos is back, apparently.

I mean, isn't it sorta fitting? The movie was essentially a CGI version of Dances With Wolves/Ferngully. Heck, even the alien-avatar concept was pretty directly lifted from a 1950s sci-fi novella. Originality has never been Jim Cameron's strong suit. It seems that, by just recycling villains, he isn't even trying to hide it. He is just shrugging, saying "**** the plot and originality" and hoping that his effects are good enough to, once again, cover for the movie's glaring flaws.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Kate's casting still not enough to bring me back.

What if this film had a reunion between her and Dicaprio would that do it then?

 

[squeekness]

Avatar-Quaritch, it'd be amusingly ironic. Although Cameron better get a move on with those sequels if he wants to keep Stephen Lang as the baddie. The man is no spring chicken and waiting a decade in-between sequels just ain't going to cut it.

He's in crazy good shape for an old dude but I see your point, lol.

 

[Loki882]

Oh he definitely is. But age catches up to everyone eventually, especially for a role like that.

Also I'm not surprised that he's returning. He's hinted at it a lot over the years.

 

[Iceman]

In fairness, effects aside, is there really anything about the first movie that was particularly memorable?

The location itself was beautiful but the human characters were boring. The effects were groundbreaking and unfortunately most films nowadays don't seem to break ground at all. I'm glad Kate Winslet has been cast but hearing that most of the others are back is killing my excitement.

 

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Cameron On “Avatar 2” Underwater Filming

By
Garth Franklin -

Tuesday, November 21st 2017 9:14 am
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Filmmaker James Cameron has been teasing over the years that at least part of the “Avatar” sequels will take place underwater, allowing him to create an elaborate undersea ecosystem for the planet of Pandora.
Despite the change of environment, Cameron is still getting motion capture elements of the actors, and the director has revealed to Collider that the process of shooting underwater motion-capture is very hard:

“Well, we’re doing it. It’s never been done before and it’s very tricky because our motion capture system, like most motion capture systems, is what they call optical base, meaning that it uses markers that are photographed with hundreds of cameras.
The problem with water is not the underwater part, but the interface between the air and the water, which forms a moving mirror. That moving mirror reflects all the dots and markers, and it creates a bunch of false markers. It’s a little bit like a fighter plane dumping a bunch of chaff to confuse the radar system of a missile. It creates thousands of false targets, so we’ve had to figure out how to get around that problem, which we did.
Basically, whenever you add water to any problem, it just gets ten times harder. So, we’ve thrown a lot of horsepower, innovation, imagination and new technology at the problem, and it’s taken us about a year and a half now to work out how we’re going to do it.
We’ve done a tremendous amount of testing, and we did it successfully, for the first time, just last Tuesday [November 14th]. We actually played an entire scene underwater with our young cast. We’ve got six teenagers and one seven-year-old, and they’re all playing a scene underwater.
We’ve been training them for six months now, with how to hold their breath, and they’re all up in the two to four minute range. They’re all perfectly capable of acting underwater, very calmly while holding their breath. We’re not doing any of this on scuba. And we’re getting really good data, beautiful character motion and great facial performance capture. We’ve basically cracked the code. Now, we’re still working in our small test tank. We graduate to our big tank in January.”
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Cameron also confirmed that most of the water work for the series will take place across the second and third films of the series. There will be some water elements in the fourth and fifth films, but not as extensive.
This partly explains why the second and third film will be done simultaneously before taking a break and then filming the fourth and fifth films. The first “Avatar” sequel arrives December 18th 2020.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Don't underestimate Cameron, kids.

 

[harlequinade]

Holding breath underwater? And kids this time? After he almost killed Ed Harris?

What can go wrong?

 

[:eek:]

James Cameron Offers New Details on Avatar Sequels
Spencer PerryNov 27, 2017



James Cameron offers new details on Avatar sequels
Director James Cameron’s plans for Avatar sequels have seemed like mostly talk for many years now, but the director is finally going full steam ahead on the films, the first of which will arrive in theaters eleven years after the original movie. Speaking with Vanity Fair, Cameron spoke about the sequels and his re-teaming with his Titanic star Kate Winslet.

“She’s very excited about it,” the director says of the Oscar winner’s involvement. “She blazed through for a couple of days of rehearsals and saw the world that we had created, and how we do the work, and she’s very excited. She plays a character who’s part of the Sea People, the reef people. The one thing she did do is demand that she do all her own water work. I said, ‘All right, that’s fine, we’ll have to teach you how to free dive.'”
Cameron went on to reveal some information about a scene they recently shot involving not only child actors, but underwater and performing simultaneously.
“The other actors are up to three- and four-minute breath holds. We’ve already been doing underwater capture. We did a scene last week with six teenagers, well, actually five teenagers and one 7-year-old underwater holding their breath for a couple minutes and acting, actually doing a dialogue scene under water because they speak kind of a sign language.”
The director also spoke about the now meme-worthy amount of delays the film has had, saying:
“I wouldn’t call them delays. It was highly optimistic that we could start quickly until scripts are written. If there’s no scripts, there’s nothing, right? The scripts took four years… We’re doing very well because of all the time that we had to develop the system and the pipeline and all that. We weren’t wasting time, we were putting it into tech development and design. So when all the scripts were approved, everything was designed. Every character, every creature, every setting.”
Cameron also seemed to air on the side of caution about the fourth and fifth films which are planned, noting that audiences have to return for the second and third movies.
“Let’s face it, if Avatar 2 and 3 don’t make enough money, there’s not going to be a 4 and 5. They’re fully encapsulated stories in and of themselves. It builds across the five films to a greater kind of meta narrative, but they’re fully formed films in their own right, unlike, say, The Lord of the Rings trilogy, where you really just had to sort of go, ‘Oh, *****, all right, well I guess I better come back next year.’ Even though that all worked and everybody did.”
Returning from the original film are Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Joel David Moore, Stephen Lang, Matt Gerald and Sigourney Weaver. Cliff Curtis and Oona Chaplin are also joining the sequels. Cameron recently explained that Stephen Lang’s Colonel Miles Quaritch is coming back for all four sequels and will be the main villain throughout the story. Filming officially started on Avatar 2 and Avatar 3 on September 25, 2017. Shortly after, James Cameron announced young cast members for the sequel, which include the Sully family and children from the Metkayina Na’vi clan who live near ocean reefs, led by Tonowari (Cliff Curtis). The only actor who will appear in live-action playing a non-CGI character is Jack Champion as Javier “Spider” Socorro, a human teen born at the Hell’s Gate military complex seen in the first film.
20th Century Fox and Lightstorm Entertainment previously announced release dates for the four Avatar sequels. Avatar 2 will be coming to theaters on December 18, 2020, and will be followed by Avatar 3 on December 17, 2021. Filming will then begin on Avatar 4 and Avatar 5, which will be released on December 20, 2024 and December 19, 2025.
Released in 2009, the first Avatar film remains the highest-grossing film worldwide with over $2.7 billion in box office grosses. Titanic was previously the record holder with $2.186 billion worldwide

 

[Kane52630]

Official: Disney Buys 20th Century Fox and 20th Century Fox Television
http://www.superherohype.com/news/4...h-century-fox-and-20th-century-fox-television

So what does this mean for movie fans? It’s possible that we may see Fox’s X-Men (including Deadpool and Wolverine) and Fantastic Four properties as a part of Disney’s Marvel Studios (Fantastic Four production rights are reportedly with Constantin Film, but a deal could be made), helping them get one step closer to bringing all their wayward comic book assets back under one roof. Disney has also acquired the Alien, Predator, Planet of the Apes, Kingsman, Die Hard franchises, as well as Avatar. James Cameron is currently at the helm of filming four Avatar sequels to the most successful movie of all-time, and he already worked closely with Disney on the new attraction Pandora – The World of Avatar at Orlando’s Disney World. Lucasfilm could bring Star Wars entirely back under their umbrella, as Fox still owns the rights to 1977’s original Star Wars, which could translate to a Blu-ray release of the original trilogy in its untampered-with form, and possibly theatrical re-releases, something fans have been dreaming of for years.

 

[Boom]

Lucasfilm could bring Star Wars entirely back under their umbrella, as Fox still owns the rights to 1977’s original Star Wars, which could translate to a Blu-ray release of the original trilogy in its untampered-with form, and possibly theatrical re-releases, something fans have been dreaming of for years.

Bruh.

 

[:eek:]

Dileep Rao To Reprise His Role In James Cameron’s ‘Avatar’ Films

http://deadline.com/2018/01/dileep-rao-james-cameron-avatar-sequels-1202269089/