Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 1

[Travesty]

Yeah, I liked it, too.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm not sure what you mean. Everything happens in a short period of time - Thanos only rolled back a minute or two - but the only real consequence that could have been rolled back other than Vision's death was Cap's "death". As far as where everyone was at that exact moment I wasn't keeping track but that's seems inconsequential. They still would have been in the vicinity.

You don't see Cap unconscious though. You don't see him at all. He just runs up after Thanos snaps his fingers - with nary a bruise.

Wanda then should have been in the middle of zapping Vision if he turned everything back, but she was clearly laying beside Thanos and unaffected by his time turn. He also only turned back prior to just Vision exploding, and Cap was punched well before that. If Cap was up, then what was he doing as Vision died, he completed the Gauntlet, etc? Just standing around?

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I thought it was cool that he was a dwarf but they made him a really BIG dwarf.

I agree! I loved that twist.

I thought there was a sort of crunch sound that didn't sound too good. I could easily see him being dead.

Honestly I was convinced he was killed when I first saw it. When Steve walked up afterwards I was like "Whaaaaaa?"

But Cap sacrificing his life there has so much more impact for me personally. He shocked Thanos with his pure will and he left nothing on the table. There's no way Cap could normally oppose a being as powerful as Thanos but he did.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Wanda then should have been in the middle of zapping Vision if he turned everything back, but she was clearly laying beside Thanos and unaffected by his time turn. He also only turned back prior to just Vision exploding, and Cap was punched well before that. If Cap was up, then what was he doing as Vision died, he completed the Gauntlet, etc? Just standing around?

Depends on the range and direction of the time warp - but you clearly see the trees around them all return to their state before the explosion. It wasn't localized and it wasn't long before that that Cap was punched. Cap was literally the last line of defense.

After the roll back Cap would have been running to the fray just like he was before - but it was at that exact point that Thor buried Stormbreaker in Thanos' chest. There would have been no need for Cap to intervene at that moment. Then the snap happens and Cap literally shows up right after. Everything happens in quick succession.

 

[squeekness]

So was the X-men cameo just a stupid rumor or was it so fast I missed it?

 

[Nathan]

Thanos could have murdered everyone that approached him, as he was moving towards Vision. I guess he decided not to kill anyone, since he was so close to his goal. Because whatever happens next, who lives or who dies, the Stones will decide. That's my head-canon anyway.

 

[PacificBoy]

It was a contained spell/effort by Thanos affecting only Vision IMO, not dissimilar to Dr Strange when he practised with the Eye of Agamotto on an apple.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Depends on the range and direction of the time warp - but you clearly see the trees around them all return to their state before the explosion. It wasn't localized and it wasn't long before that that Cap was punched. Cap was literally the last line of defense.

Then why wasn't Wanda effected, nor Cap doing anything to help Vision or Thor? He had plenty of time to jump in given his speed (note his running speed in the field when he was out running everyone).

I'm sorry, him being dead there and time turning back makes no sense. Why would Thanos bother turning just some things back but not all then?

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Then why wasn't Wanda effected, nor Cap doing anything to help Vision or Thor? He had plenty of time to jump in given his speed (note his running speed in the field when he was out running everyone).

I'm sorry, him being dead there and time turning back makes no sense. Why would Thanos bother turning just some things back but not all then?

Thanos didn't do it on purpose. It just happened.

So some of the trees go back to the way they were across a span of many hundreds of yards but Wanda is still right there unaffected? Maybe her magic shielded her. I dunno how any of this works exactly. I've personally never used an Infinity Gauntlet in this fashion. It's all fantasy. This is just a theory but I think it has legs.

 

[Travesty]

Wait, so some of you think Cap died with his initial blow from Thanos, and then when Thanos turned back time to kill Vision, he also resurrected Cap?

I just took it that Cap took a hard beat, but didn't die.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Wait, so some of you think Cap died with his initial blow from Thanos, and then when Thanos turned back time to kill Vision, he also resurrected Cap?

I just took it that Cap took a hard beat, but didn't die.

He didn't resurrect him. He literally reversed time. Big difference.

 

[squeekness]

my money is on pym turning to dust in a post credit scene in the ant man movie.

I could see this. It would be a good way to tie things together.

 

[Kev4000]

But then it occurred to me that when Thanos used the Time Stone to bring back Vision and the Mind Stone - that by rolling back time he actually saved Cap's life. I could be wrong here but I don't think so. I think Cap actually did die but his survival was a side effect of Thanos saving Vision.

No he didnt die. It's just the same that Strange made with the apple.

 

[Travesty]

The Hype today has just been funny.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Thanos didn't do it on purpose. It just happened.

So some of the trees go back to the way they were across a span of many hundreds of yards but Wanda is still right there unaffected? Maybe her magic shielded her. I dunno how any of this works exactly. I've personally never used an Infinity Gauntlet in this fashion. It's all fantasy. This is just a theory but I think it has legs.

But again, how does that work if Wanda is not sent back to when she was in the middle of attacking the stone in the time turn? She blew up Vision way after Cap had already been knocked out, so if he turned back to when Vision was still there, why was Wanda not effected? I'm sorry, I just cannot see this working at all. Scientifically it just doesn't work for me. Thanos cherry picked Vision like Strange did with the apple in Doctor Strange, and only he and the mind stone were effected. Your solution only works if everything went backward, including Wanda.

 

[warriorking]

Cap was just knocked out from punch..
Had Thanos wanted he could have easily killed cap...

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

But again, how does that work if Wanda is not sent back to when she was in the middle of attacking the stone in the time turn? She blew up Vision way after Cap had already been knocked out, so if he turned back to when Vision was still there, why was Wanda not effected? I'm sorry, I just cannot see this working at all. Scientifically it just doesn't work for me. Thanos cherry picked Vision like Strange did with the apple in Doctor Strange, and only he and the mind stone were effected. Your solution only works if everything went backward, including Wanda.

Wanda was not in the middle of the act when Thanos rolls back time and it wasn't "way" after Cap got punched. Everything happens in the span of a minute. It takes longer for her to kill Vision than for Thanos to walk up to her after clocking Cap.

Wanda had just completed killing Vision when Thanos walks up to her and tells her how he understands her sacrifice. He then proceeds to roll back time. (It doesn't matter what Cap should be "doing" at this point if he is dead.) Thanos directs the Time Stone towards Vision in particular but the effect ends up encompassing the woods all around them. If that hadn't happened I would not feel as strongly as I do about it. But it wasn't as simple a case as the apple. I could easily envision a wave of time reversing energy that caught only certain things in its wake. Also there's nothing scientific about any of this LOL.

 

[Timebomb]

But again, how does that work if Wanda is not sent back to when she was in the middle of attacking the stone in the time turn? She blew up Vision way after Cap had already been knocked out, so if he turned back to when Vision was still there, why was Wanda not effected? I'm sorry, I just cannot see this working at all. Scientifically it just doesn't work for me. Thanos cherry picked Vision like Strange did with the apple in Doctor Strange, and only he and the mind stone were effected. Your solution only works if everything went backward, including Wanda.

I'm with Spider-Fan on this one (And not to suck up for an earlier infraction) because I actually thought about this during my second viewing. When Thanos is reversing time there is a green energy coming off the glove that is pointing directly at Vision. It is only affecting him. You can tell as well from Scarlet Witch's reaction as she is watching Vision come back to life via the time stone. She is horrified but in no way shows any sign of being brought back in time.

 

[Travesty]

I just want to know how Thanos knew the reverse time spell. Dr. Strange had to learn it from reading a book. I didn't see Thanos reading any books.

Explain yourselves, Russo brothers! Explain!!!

 

[Spider-Fan]

Wanda was not in the middle of the act when Thanos rolls back time and it wasn't "way" after Cap got punched. Everything happens in the span of a minute. It takes longer for her to kill Vision than for Thanos to walk up to her after clocking Cap.

Wanda had just completed killing Vision when Thanos walks up to her and tells her how he understands her sacrifice. He then proceeds to roll back time. (It doesn't matter what Cap should be "doing" at this point if he is dead.) Thanos directs the Time Stone towards Vision in particular but the effect ends up encompassing the woods all around them. If that hadn't happened I would not feel as strongly as I do about it. But it wasn't as simple a case as the apple. I could easily envision a wave of time reversing energy that caught only certain things in its wake. Also there's nothing scientific about any of this LOL.

Sorry man, this sounds like mental gymnastics to me. Thanos was very proficient with the stones and for your theory to work, too many accidents have to happen. Time and area of effect just do not work this way

 

[Reverse_Flash]

Somewhat disappointed.

Where to begin. This movie had a lot going on, but at the end I got the feeling that nothing really happened. At least when when it comes to The Avengers, who were still split up. They pretty much left all the interesting things I was looking forward to for the next movie. It was mainly a movie about Thanos, which isn't a bad thing, but not what I expected.

I found some characters very underwhelming. Bucky is one of my favorite MCU characters and I was expecting some badassery from him, but there was nothing. He's been reduced to just another weak secondary character. And I'm not talking about screen time, but quality scenes. Not even his upgraded arm made a big difference. I expected a lot more from him given the Russo brothers made TWS and Civil War.

Hulk, I don't know what they were thinking. He was one of the weakest aspects of the movie. Seriously, nobody wants to see Banner in a Hulkbuster suit. That was really disappointing. Ant-Man? Completely ignored for some reason. Perhaps there were too many characters to handle even for Marvel, so they saved some for the next movie and “killed” some in this one so the next one isn't too stacked.

As for the deaths at the end, they were not believable, and thus they lost any emotional impact to me. Spider-Man dead? Yeah, sure. We know they are coming back, so it was like “meh”. I was expecting Marvel to shock me, to actually kill one of their main characters, but they didn't. When Iron Man got stabbed by Thanos I went like “holy crap, they did it. Marvel had the guts to kill Iron Man” one minute later I was like “sigh, no they didn’t”. Once again, I didn't feel the stakes were high. They're just bluffing and it's obvious.

Sure, they killed some characters like Loki and Gamora, but the main Avengers are intact. I felt Civil War was a lot more dramatical even when nobody died. Also, Dr. Strange saving Iron Man in return of giving Thanos an Infinity Stone felt really out of place to me, specially when he warned IM and Spider-Man that he wouldn't save them. Admittedly, I didn't watch Dr. Strange so his personality is a bit unknown to me. Spider-Man taking longer to desintegrate to have an emotional moment with Iron Man was pretty cliche as well.

Thanos was the best thing in the movie. They made his motivations clear and he seemed like a real badass for the most part. The big downside is that they broke the #1 rule for villains in my book: A villain should never be bested or defeated until the very end. Thanos was subdued by Iron Man, Dr. Strange and Spider-Man. He was pretty much defeated, until Quil screwed up and attacked him. They should've made Thanos get out of that hold by himself to boost his badassery. Still a very good character and definitely the best Marvel Villain so far.

Action scenes were good for the most part, although some were a bit cheesy. Still too many cheesy comedy and one liners for my taste, but that's typical in MCU movies. You know they are coming, although I expected less of those from the Russo bros.

All in all, it's not a bad movie by any means. There were a lot of things I liked, but I expected better. It's not in my top 3 MCU movies. I have TWS, Civil War and Black Panther above. It's not in my top 10 CBM's either.

I felt the audience was a bit disappointed. Very silent, and one guy literally gave a “F you” to the movie at the end. Perhaps because of the incomplete ending. The Lord of the Rings had a similar ending but it was a much more satisfying movie to me. The post credit scene was even more underwhelming. Total waste of time unless you're a fan.

I'll watch it again to process everything, but as of now my score is 7/10.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I'm with Spider-Fan on this one (And not to suck up for an earlier infraction) because I actually thought about this during my second viewing. When Thanos is reversing time there is a green energy coming off the glove that is pointing directly at Vision. It is only affecting him. You can tell as well from Scarlet Witch's reaction as she is watching Vision come back to life via the time stone. She is horrified but in no way shows any sign of being brought back in time.

This is actually not true. The wake of devastation from the destruction of the Mind Stone is also rolled back. Watch it again.

 

[InCali]

Somewhat disappointed.

Where to begin. This movie had a lot going on, but at the end I got the feeling that nothing really happened. At least when when it comes to The Avengers, who were still split up. They pretty much left all the interesting things I was looking forward to for the next movie. It was mainly a movie about Thanos, which isn't a bad thing, but not what I expected.

I found some characters very underwhelming. Bucky is one of my favorite MCU characters and I was expecting some badassery from him, but there was nothing. He's been reduced to just another weak secondary character. And I'm not talking about screen time, but quality scenes. Not even his upgraded arm made a big difference. I expected a lot more from him given the Russo brothers made TWS and Civil War.

Hulk, I don't know what they were thinking. He was one of the weakest aspects of the movie. Seriously, nobody wants to see Banner in a Hulkbuster suit. That was really disappointing. Ant-Man? Completely ignored for some reason. Perhaps there were too many characters to handle even for Marvel, so they saved some for the next movie and “killed” some in this one so the next one isn't too stacked.

As for the deaths at the end, they were not believable, and thus they lost any emotional impact to me. Spider-Man dead? Yeah, sure. We know they are coming back, so it was like “meh”. I was expecting Marvel to shock me, to actually kill one of their main characters, but they didn't. When Iron Man got stabbed by Thanos I went like “holy crap, they did it. Marvel had the guts to kill Iron Man” one minute later I was like “sigh, no they didn’t”. Once again, I didn't feel the stakes were high. They're just bluffing and it's obvious.

Sure, they killed some characters like Loki and Gamora, but the main Avengers are intact. I felt Civil War was a lot more dramatical even when nobody died. Also, Dr. Strange saving Iron Man in return of giving Thanos an Infinity Stone felt really out of place to me, specially when he warned IM and Spider-Man that he wouldn't save them. Admittedly, I didn't watch Dr. Strange so his personality is a bit unknown to me. Spider-Man taking longer to desintegrate to have an emotional moment with Iron Man was pretty cliche as well.

Thanos was the best thing in the movie. They made his motivations clear and he seemed like a real badass for the most part. The big downside is that they broke the #1 rule for villains in my book: A villain should never be bested or defeated until the very end. Thanos was subdued by Iron Man, Dr. Strange and Spider-Man. He was pretty much defeated, until Quil screwed up and attacked him. They should've made Thanos get out of that hold by himself to boost his badassery. Still a very good character and definitely the best Marvel Villain so far.

Action scenes were good for the most part, although some were a bit cheesy. Still too many cheesy comedy and one liners for my taste, but that's typical in MCU movies. You know they are coming, although I expected less of those from the Russo bros.

All in all, it's not a bad movie by any means. There were a lot of things I liked, but I expected better. It's not in my top 3 MCU movies. I have TWS, Civil War and Black Panther above. It's not in my top 10 CBM's either.

I felt the audience was a bit disappointed. Very silent, and one guy literally gave a “F you” to the movie at the end. Perhaps because of the incomplete ending. The Lord of the Rings had a similar ending but it was a much more satisfying movie to me. The post credit scene was even more underwhelming. Total waste of time unless you're a fan.

I'll watch it again to process everything, but as of now my score is 7/10.

Completely disagree. Also, Dr. Strange giving Thanos the stone makes "perfect" sense. He saw one way and one way only to defeat Thanos and that was it; or at least part of it. Remember he said "It's the only way".....

The stakes weren't high.......I don't even know how to address that.

You didn't think the movie was that great. Cool.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Sorry man, this sounds like mental gymnastics to me. Thanos was very proficient with the stones and for your theory to work, too many accidents have to happen. Time and area of effect just do not work this way

Too many accidents? What do you mean? What are the gymnastics?

Because apparently we can agree that some things can be rolled back (like Vision) but other things can't (like Wanda). Not that that makes any sense but this is comic logic so whatever. Following that logic your argument seems that the time reverse was local to Vision's person only. However, the film quite clearly shows a radius of many hundreds of yards of destruction were also reversed. Does Thanos then cherry pick Cap out of that same woods to prevent him from rolling back in time as well?

I don't think my theory is any more outrageous. It's very basic:

Thanos rolled back time and in the swath of that event Cap was caught up in it.

Sure I could be wrong. And maybe the filmmakers didn't intend that. But I think it's a way cooler concept than Cap magically surviving a knockout punch from a being that can punch moons or take out the Hulk with the tips of his fingers.

 

[Reverse_Flash]

Completely disagree. Also, Dr. Strange giving Thanos the stone makes "perfect" sense. He saw one way and one way only to defeat Thanos and that was it; or at least part of it. Remember he said "It's the only way".....

The stakes weren't high.......I don't even know how to address that.

You didn't think the movie was that great. Cool.

I'm expecting a lot of disagreement here. It's fine.

Not sure about the Dr. Strange thing. Maybe you're right. It wasn't a big deal, I just felt it was a bit of a cop-out to save Iron Man.

I'm disappointed that none of the main Avengers were killed. I was expecting a major shock. Before I watched the movie I heard some people saying there were some heartbreaking moments. I didn't feel any, unless you really believe Spider-Man is not coming back. That's why I say the stakes weren't high to me.

Half of the universe was wiped out and I just don't buy it. By "killing" Spider-Man they made it evident that this is just something temporary. They'll reverse the whole thing and that's it. Killing a major Avenger would have made the difference.