Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 1

[Murdock103]

This is actually not true. The wake of devastation from the destruction of the Mind Stone is also rolled back. Watch it again.

Yeah, but the destruction caused by the Mind Stone gets reversed because that’s what Thanos is reversing.
He’s reversing Vision being destroyed, so of course the destruction from the Mind Gem is also reversed.

I’m afraid I’m with Spider-Fan and Timebomb on this one.
I literally just got back from seeing it. I don’t recall seeing anything that indicated that the time reversal wasn’t specifically regarding Vision.

 

[legendkillin]

where was Hulk during Thanos attack on the asgardian Ship? why didn't Loki using the cosmic cube to get people out?

Banner was probably helping some people escape since Thanos killed half. Loki has no control over the cube. We all saw what happen to Red Skull when he held it and tried to do something.

The cube always needed something to focus its power. Avengers 1 Selvig made that big machine and this the gauntlet. You can't simply use it to make portals.

 

[legendkillin]

Yeah, but the destruction caused by the Mind Stone gets reversed because that’s what Thanos is reversing.
He’s reversing Vision being destroyed, so of course the destruction from the Mind Gem is also reversed.

I’m afraid I’m with Spider-Fan and Timebomb on this one.
I literally just got back from seeing it. I don’t recall seeing anything that indicated that the time reversal wasn’t specifically regarding Vision.

He focused the time stuff specifically on Vision and that spot. It is no different than Strange messing around with the Apple when he discovered the stone.

 

[Dark Raven]

I have a feeling the gems can negate some of those tactics. I do think that when Ant-Man shrinks he would have been able to help take the gauntlet or be involved. I wonder if shrinking Thanos into the quantum realm will happen so they can fight him there.

Well when they were on Titan, which gems would've stopped Ant-Man if he did any of that?

Thanos didn't have the time stone yet, nor the mind stone.

They would've gotten the gauntlet off him if the shrunk him but not the glove.

And how would Thanos have been able to breathe if the molecules were too big for him now?

I only see maybe the reality gem being of use. Perhaps he could alter the molecules to accommodate him. But considering Ant-Man could take him by surprise, it might all happen before Thanos could even act.

 

[Murdock103]

He focused the time stuff specifically on Vision and that spot. It is no different than Strange messing around with the Apple when he discovered the stone.

Yes...I think we’re agreeing?

 

[legendkillin]

Well when they were on Titan, which gems would've stopped Ant-Man if he did any of that?

Thanos didn't have the time stone yet, nor the mind stone.

They would've gotten the gauntlet off him if the shrunk him but not the glove.

And how would Thanos have been able to breathe if the molecules were too big for him now?

I only see maybe the reality gem being of use. Perhaps he could alter the molecules to accommodate him. But considering Ant-Man could take him by surprise, it might all happen before Thanos could even act.

Reality stone was done right in this movie so the possibilities of it were pretty powerful. That stone would have been able to change things that Ant-Man did.

 

[legendkillin]

Yes...I think we’re agreeing?

I know we seem to agree on it. I just was too lazy to go back and find the post prior and quote it.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

If you compare the stakes of this film to the stakes of Age Of Ultron. Even though I really liked the fact that Ultron wasn't as huge a threat, The Avengers were just getting the job done in that one, even though it was a tougher challenge than Hydra. I thought that was good.

I have no idea what any of this means?

 

[Dark Raven]

If the Disney-Fox deal had already gone through, which of the Fox characters would've had a chance against Thanos?

Maybe Professor X could've mind controlled him and got him to remove the gauntlet or stopped him from even seeking out the stones.

Or Magneto could've used any iron that Thanos might have in his body to kill him.

Maybe Invisible Woman could've also used her force fields within him to destroy him from inside.

 

[squeekness]

Nice.

 

[squeekness]

I do think it does take something away when so many major characters get wiped out that you know it doesn't really count. You know it will be walked back. Maybe I've just read too many comics or seen too many shows that that sort of plot point to be overly dramatic for me anymore. If anything it's kinda boring and over used. That would be my only complaint in an otherwise entertaining film.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Well when they were on Titan, which gems would've stopped Ant-Man if he did any of that?

Thanos didn't have the time stone yet, nor the mind stone.

They would've gotten the gauntlet off him if the shrunk him but not the glove.

And how would Thanos have been able to breathe if the molecules were too big for him now?

I only see maybe the reality gem being of use. Perhaps he could alter the molecules to accommodate him. But considering Ant-Man could take him by surprise, it might all happen before Thanos could even act.

You're trying to be smarter than the material I think and not reckoning with the full, and yes non-rational power, of the stones. Alteration of matter like what Ant-Man does is more than in the scope of the Gauntlet's power even incomplete and missing the last two gems.

More importantly... The story as written, the actual flow of events in this film don't allow for Ant-Man to be there. I mean...The attack happens in NYC. It's a matter of minutes. Tony has just met Strange and Ant-Man is on the other side of the continent. There's no way to get him involved in the first place with Tony, Peter and the doc so it's as they say, a moot point.

 

[cph9fa]

There was. At one point Tony says "Do you concur, Doctor?" It might not be the out and out "No **** Sherlock" people were expecting (which would have been super cringey, imo), but my theater laughed at it.

Pretty sure "Do you concur, Doctor?" was a shout out to Catch Me If You Can, where DiCapprio's character is a conman who, while pretending to be a doctor, uses the phrase to get out of a sticky situation. https://youtu.be/i5j1wWY-qus

Do you concur?

 

[Napoli]

anyone else think Rocket IS gonna end up stealing the winter soldiers new arm in the long run....LOL

 

[legendkillin]

anyone else think Rocket IS gonna end up stealing the winter soldiers new arm in the long run....LOL

It went to dust with Bucky. The gun did fall though so Rocket can get that and add some more tech to it.

 

[InCali]

I was thinking opposite. Go ant size and crawl up his nose, then go Giant Man.

That would be very clever. Thanos killed by a sinus infection.

 

[Dark Raven]

Pretty sure "Do you concur, Doctor?" was a shout out to Catch Me If You Can, where DiCapprio's character is a conman who, while pretending to be a doctor, uses the phrase to get out of a sticky situation. https://youtu.be/i5j1wWY-qus

Do you concur?

Why would it be a nod to that?

It's not like it was an earlier film by the Russo brothers.

And it has no connection to any of the actors in this film.

If Steven Spielberg had directed Infinity War then I might believe it was a nod to one of his earlier films. He has done that before with nods to Duel in other films (eg the dinosaur roar when the truck goes over the cliff also being featured in Jaws, or the woman at the filling station showing up in one of the other films).

However, Infinity War referencing Catch Me if You Can, which is not even such a popular film, seems extremely random.

 

[sueb1863]

I wonder if we'll see the disappeared characters in some sort of netherworld in the next movie, and they'll be trying to figure out how to get back?

 

[legendkillin]

I wonder if we'll see the disappeared characters in some sort of netherworld in the next movie, and they'll be trying to figure out how to get back?

Yeah I think they need to show where the dead go from the Snap. Also if they are going to be part of the promotion it would be weird because they can't say their role. The media demand would be too hard for the original 6, Larson, Lilly, and Rudd. I don't even know if Cooper promotes as just a voice over even if Rocket has a lot of time like he tends to.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Too many accidents? What do you mean? What are the gymnastics?

Because apparently we can agree that some things can be rolled back (like Vision) but other things can't (like Wanda). Not that that makes any sense but this is comic logic so whatever. Following that logic your argument seems that the time reverse was local to Vision's person only. However, the film quite clearly shows a radius of many hundreds of yards of destruction were also reversed. Does Thanos then cherry pick Cap out of that same woods to prevent him from rolling back in time as well?

I don't think my theory is any more outrageous. It's very basic:

Thanos rolled back time and in the swath of that event Cap was caught up in it.

Sure I could be wrong. And maybe the filmmakers didn't intend that. But I think it's a way cooler concept than Cap magically surviving a knockout punch from a being that can punch moons or take out the Hulk with the tips of his fingers.

The time stone can localize it, hence the apple in Doctor Strange. As for the why it can absorb the other stuff, it is because it is directly attached to the mind stone. That is what it is turning back the clock for (and the blast radius was part of the mind stone). If anything else was effected, again, why isn't Wanda? Why is no one else moving in the background as Thanos is doing this? Thanos is too good with the stones to accidentally do things. When did he ever mess up using a stone once prior in the movie? He mastered them instantly. Further, if Cap ain't punched, then he is not unconscious and is therefore awake. He has ages to attack Thanos if he is conscious when he is putting the stone in and when Thor attacks. Where is he then? Why is Cap nowhere to be seen? Cap is the first guy who will attack if able.

There is no evidence that Cap died. This is just trying to justify him surviving a hit again based on perceived power levels, same as the complaints about the Black Order in the movie vs their comic book versions. Occam's razor says he survived the punch because he survived the punch.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Yeah, but the destruction caused by the Mind Stone gets reversed because that’s what Thanos is reversing.
He’s reversing Vision being destroyed, so of course the destruction from the Mind Gem is also reversed.

I’m afraid I’m with Spider-Fan and Timebomb on this one.
I literally just got back from seeing it. I don’t recall seeing anything that indicated that the time reversal wasn’t specifically regarding Vision.

Hmmm that's an interesting take and has some internal logic I suppose. But everything is connected and there's a cascade effect with time the more you start changing. So you can roll back the destruction but not the things contained within the destruction? If you're right and I'm wrong then I guess I'm back to thinking it's really lame that Cap survived that punch. Thanks.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I thought his punch on BP was harder than the Cap hit. Also he beat the heck out of Stark even shot him with the blast from power gem.
I don't think this new nanotech is stronger than a super soldier.

BP is literally covered in vibranium LOL. And considering Iron Man's original armor can take a hit from a missile I'd say yeah his latest tech can handle worse - certainly more than flesh and bone no matter how enhanced.

 

[Spider-Fan]

You're trying to be smarter than the material I think and not reckoning with the full, and yes non-rational power, of the stones. Alteration of matter like what Ant-Man does is more than in the scope of the Gauntlet's power even incomplete and missing the last two gems.

More importantly... The story as written, the actual flow of events in this film don't allow for Ant-Man to be there. I mean...The attack happens in NYC. It's a matter of minutes. Tony has just met Strange and Ant-Man is on the other side of the continent. There's no way to get him involved in the first place with Tony, Peter and the doc so it's as they say, a moot point.

People seem to think mere existence means you can come into a situation immediately. Further, we have an Ant-Man movie to explain where he was during this.

 

[cph9fa]

Why would it be a nod to that?

It's not like it was an earlier film by the Russo brothers.

And it has no connection to any of the actors in this film.

If Steven Spielberg had directed Infinity War then I might believe it was a nod to one of his earlier films. He has done that before with nods to Duel in other films (eg the dinosaur roar when the truck goes over the cliff also being featured in Jaws, or the woman at the filling station showing up in one of the other films).

However, Infinity War referencing Catch Me if You Can, which is not even such a popular film, seems extremely random.

It was such a specific line, though. Shoot, it's basically the only thing I remember about that movie, and I've never even seen it in It's entirety. It still became something of a meme with my siblings and me.

Why? Its just another pop culture reference, as Stark is occasionally prone to make (e.g. Thor being "point break"). It's funny, because Stark chides Peter for making pop culture references, but makes them himself. He wants Peter to be better than him...

 

[marty344]

Purely from whats planned the next few years, those that died at the end of the movie HAVE to come back in Avengers 4.
By that i mean, Gaurdians 3 has been ear marked for 2020 release and the actor that plays Spider man has posed online that he will be in the next Spiderman movie.

My prediction is the remaining Avengers (who by the way are all most the originals) will help Captain Marvel take on Thanos, take control of the infinity stones, and use the Time stone to turn back time and therefore stop the characters from dying at the end of 3.

Also i think Tony Stark will play a major part, maybe he will be the one that provides the death blow to Thanos? After all, Thanos seemed to know a lot about Stark, maybe with the help of the stones. He may have seen a future in which Stark beats Thano.

Also Captain America could possibly be the one strong enough to handle the infinity stones without dying. Maybe he will play an important part, maybe even sacrfice himself (the soul stone requires a sacrifice from the holder). Perhaps Captain America will sacrifice himself to save the world. In 3, didnt he say something to Vision about trading places, sacrifice?