Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 2

[Timebomb]

Just got back, wow, an amazing movie and quite the astonishing feat from everyone involved, lost count of how many times my jaw dropped, and I had already spoiled myself silly before seeing it.

There are problems, as a huge Hulk fan, I didn’t have a problem with what happened at the beginning, but then us not seeing him again was a kick in the teeth, especially when every other hero seems to get their moment to shine.

Vision wasn’t much better, but he still got a couple of good moments st least, Hulk got none. And yeah, the Black Order were nerfed to hell, which was also disappointing.

However, the movie was still incredible, and Thanos, wow, altering power levels throughout aside, he was a sight to behold, and they kept the depth of the character from the comics. He pretty much made the movie for me. 9.5/10.

Really happy you liked it. I know this was tough for Hulk fans but I think there will be an awesome redemption scene for Hulk in the next film.
Same with Cap. I have a feeling we will get the Stars and Stripes and the shield back for A4

 

[Flemm]

It looked like it was fried on his hand or something.

I think that there is a change to the Gauntlet already before he ports out.

That's what I'm remembering.

So I'm not sure if we're supposed to think that its power has been tapped out, depleted, or what.

 

[chaseter]

It looked like it was fried on his hand or something.

It was fried before he teleported out of Wakanda....though I can’t remember if he had it on the farm planet. If it’s on him on the farm planet...then he’s not dead or trapped in the soul stone.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Really happy you liked it. I know this was tough for Hulk fans but I think there will be an awesome redemption scene for Hulk in the next film.
Same with Cap. I have a feeling we will get the Stars and Stripes and the shield back for A4

Hmm, unfortunately I am not too optimistic on that redemption scene for Hulk, or if one happens it being awesome.

I think he will just be given an embarrassing showing again so they can show how much more powerful Captain Marvel is. I think the situation with Universal means Marvel don’t want to put Hulk front and centre anymore.

I thought Cap, while having less screen time than expected, had a generally awesome showing here though.

 

[BH/HHH]

Really happy you liked it. I know this was tough for Hulk fans but I think there will be an awesome redemption scene for Hulk in the next film.
Same with Cap. I have a feeling we will get the Stars and Stripes and the shield back for A4

Yeah those feel like much needed moments in the sequel.

 

[Flemm]

In the area of what went wrong, there are a few obvious things that will come into play, I think, one of them being the rift between Tony and Steve, including the shield.

That rift has to be healed.

But another reason they lose is that they don't have a Hulk, so that is another thing that will end up being different. I don't know whether or not it will satisfy fans, but it's going to happen, in one way or another.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I remembered something I wanted to mention on Saturday, I'm not sure anyone mentioned it before, cause if they did, I missed it:

Spider-Man: Homecoming starts with; '8 YEARS AGO'. In this movie Tony said he had nightmares because of Thanos for 6 years, and I don't think Tony worked through his anxiety in the last two years until Spider-Man showed up on the scene.

 

[Donner]

I remembered something I wanted to mention on Saturday, I'm not sure anyone mentioned it before, cause if they did, I missed it:

Spider-Man: Homecoming starts with; '8 YEARS AGO'. In this movie Tony said he had nightmares because of Thanos for 6 years, and I don't think Tony worked through his anxiety in the last two years until Spider-Man showed up on the scene.

I think they just screwed up. Fox does it all the time with X-Men.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I remembered something I wanted to mention on Saturday, I'm not sure anyone mentioned it before, cause if they did, I missed it:

Spider-Man: Homecoming starts with; '8 YEARS AGO'. In this movie Tony said he had nightmares because of Thanos for 6 years, and I don't think Tony worked through his anxiety in the last two years until Spider-Man showed up on the scene.

The Russo's say that the 8 years later thing was an error made by the Homecoming filmmakers.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Thanks fellas.

 

[FlareKnight]

Hmm, unfortunately I am not too optimistic on that redemption scene for Hulk, or if one happens it being awesome.

I think he will just be given an embarrassing showing again so they can show how much more powerful Captain Marvel is. I think the situation with Universal means Marvel don’t want to put Hulk front and centre anymore.

I thought Cap, while having less screen time than expected, had a generally awesome showing here though.

I have zero doubts that Hulk will get a good redemption in Avengers 4. They are clearly setting up for that. No doubt Captain Marvel will get some good scenes. But there is a good reason they kept the original Avengers around post-snap. They are going to get a chance to come together, get over the issues they have, and present a united front when going after Thanos.

They are not going to have the Hulk come back into the fight only to do nothing. They are giving the Hulk a character arc, it's not a bad thing.

 

[Spidey17]

I have zero doubts that Hulk will get a good redemption in Avengers 4. They are clearly setting up for that. No doubt Captain Marvel will get some good scenes. But there is a good reason they kept the original Avengers around post-snap. They are going to get a chance to come together, get over the issues they have, and present a united front when going after Thanos.

They are not going to have the Hulk come back into the fight only to do nothing. They are giving the Hulk a character arc, it's not a bad thing.

Bruce does say they've gotta talk about some stuff.

Can't wait for Cap to get his shield back and pop Thanos in the face. Ooh, or pass it to Hulk so he can smash Thanos as Thor Tonya Harding's him in the knees with Stormbreaker. Make it happen, Russo bro's!!!

 

[Flemm]

The Gauntlet itself having been burnt out by the snap would actually answer one question that has been bugging me, which is how the heroes are able to do anything at all with an almost omnipotent Thanos running the universe.

So I'm guessing that it's something like that.

The gems are what they are, but the gauntlet's power can be depleted.

 

[RoastBeast]

Bruce does say they've gotta talk about some stuff.

Can't wait for Cap to get his shield back and pop Thanos in the face. Ooh, or pass it to Hulk so he can smash Thanos as Thor Tonya Harding's him in the knees with Stormbreaker. Make it happen, Russo bro's!!!

Added points if he wails 'whyyyyyyyyyyyyy...?' in the finale.

 

[Spidey17]

OP by elgaz

Had a few days to mull over the film more since I saw it, and whilst I'm definitely going to go for a rewatch this week, my initial reaction hasn't changed. Simply fantastic.

Highlights for me were :

Thor.
In the comics he's hugely powerful, in the movies he's been depowered somewhat. Thor : Ragnarok took big strides in addressing that, and Infinity War takes full-on leaps. Thor enduring the power of a star, entering the battle in Wakanda and decimating multiple enemies that the other Avengers/Wakandans are struggling with, Thor breaching Thanos' defences and injuring him with Stormbreaker - all great feats of power which finally show the God of Thunder in his true light.

Thanos.
One of my friends isn't really into superhero films and when talking about this prior to seeing it, I had to describe MCU Thanos to him - "Purple, 8-9ft tall, CGi" was how I put it. He assumed it would be a silly representation of the character. In reality, Thanos is up there as one of THE great cinematic villains. They absolutely nailed him; his abundant screentime, fantastic CGi, huge presence, brutality, Brolin's performance, the emotional stakes and his motivations for doing what he's doing were all perfect. I wouldn't say I sympathised with him, but I definitely had an understanding of the reasoning behind his plan - it was much more fleshed out than the typical "evil bad guy wants to destroy the universe" - and could admire his dedication to completing it.

Hulk
Now this is a strange one, but I actually loved what they did with Hulk in this film, despite some of the negative reactions in the Hulk thread. Would I have liked some more Hulk screentime? Of course, if you consider this film to be an isolated one; but we know Avengers 4 is coming, and we know from Ruffalo interviews that there is an Arc for Hulk. What I found interesting here was that this is the first time MCU Hulk has expressed anything approaching fear. Banner was trying to coax him out on numerous occasions, but he wouldn't play - and we have to assume that is down to the brutal beating Thanos gives him in the film's opening.

Of course, this isn't the first time that MCU Hulk has had tough competition. He didn't have it easy with Abomination, Hulkbuster managed to knock him out (albeit it was a very close affair and Hulk was disorientated when it happened) and Thor and him were pretty even in combat in both Avengers and Thor : Ragnarok. However, I would say this is the first time on screen that Hulk was totally outmatched; after his initial attack, which Thanos seemed to let him away with, Thanos turned on him and was faster, stronger and more skilled.

We know that more of Banner's human personality has been seeping into Hulk over the last few films; hence why his speech is now improved, why Banner can force-change when he wants, and why Banner can now 'direct' him to a certain extent, rather than just being along for the ride. I suspect however that some human emotions like fear are also seeping into his personality and this will be explored later. Banner may have to make a decision as to whether to let Hulk be Hulk, or continue to try and force his influence.

The Interplay
It was a real treat seeing some of these characters interact for the first time. The exchanges between Stark and Quill were hilarious. I also loved the Stark/Strange dialogue; they're very similar characters in some ways - similar age, highly skilled in their fields, egotistical, goatees, prone to smart quips - and it was a joy to watch the two Sherlocks play off each other.

Thor and Rocket's dialogue was also very touching, and really gave Hemsworth a chance to stretch his acting chops. You couldn't help but have sympathy for Thor after all the losses he's endured over the last few films and this one.

......

There's lots more that impressed me; the action scenes, the effects, the score, the pacing, and so on. It all combined to make for an incredible cinematic experience.

However, the single biggest thing I take from Avengers : Infinity War was simply how epic it was.

Both in scope - 10yrs, 18 films, 30+ characters, hundreds of millions of $$, all dedicated to building characters/backstories and acting as small stepping stones to this ensemble piece - and in execution - actually putting all that together in a visually stunning film, and making it work with a storyline that's worthy of it all. Having characters perform massive feats of power such as withstanding the power of a sun, and slamming a moon down onto a planet. Creating visually stunning locations and bringing in a villain who doesn't just want to change a world, or worlds - but the entire universe.

To not only manage that, but to manage it with such a great film is a huge achievement.

I've watched many films over the years and only a few (such as the original Star Wars and Lord of the Rings films for example) had that epic cinematic feel about them of watching something which you wouldn't see repeated again, with characters who would become ingrained in popular culture and who mass audiences would actually care about. I hoped Justice League would have it but as production went on and we approached release, it became apparent it wouldn't. Avengers : Infinity War however .......... has it in spades. It's going to be a long wait for Part 4.

You should've known Zach couldn't pull off jl after bvs. Such a **** movie. Imagine either Russo or Ryan directing bvs; could've been hella dope.
Dude, I've been thinking how IW could still be in theaters when 4 comes out. I know I'd pay double for a b2b showing.

 

[Web-Head]

I'm not sure why so many people are hung up on that "8 years later" thing. Yes, it was a mistake that they probably should have caught but just look at it as a mistake and move on.

I do wonder where they even got 8 from though? Avengers was released in 2012 and Homecoming in 2017, that's only 5 years...

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I have zero doubts that Hulk will get a good redemption in Avengers 4. They are clearly setting up for that. No doubt Captain Marvel will get some good scenes. But there is a good reason they kept the original Avengers around post-snap. They are going to get a chance to come together, get over the issues they have, and present a united front when going after Thanos.

They are not going to have the Hulk come back into the fight only to do nothing. They are giving the Hulk a character arc, it's not a bad thing.

I know they are giving him an arc, it’s the arc they chose to give him which is what I have a problem with and I have my doubts on how epic the pay off will be when other characters will hog/need the limelight.

 

[Sundancer]

I They are clearly setting up for that. No doubt Captain Marvel will get some good scenes.

Is that the symbol that showed up on Fury's pager?


I got out of the movie 2 hours ago. My only gripe was how easily Strange handed over the time stone.

 

[chintai80]

Is that the symbol that showed up on Fury's pager?


I got out of the movie 2 hours ago. My only gripe was how easily Strange handed over the time stone.

yea, that was the symbol for captain marvel.

dr. strange definitely got something up his sleeve and we'll see the payoff for that in A4.

he probably saw the one scenario where they won - and it involved giving thanos the time stone.

i think even somewhere in the beginning of the movie he says something akin to "in order for us to win, we wil have to lose."

the next Avengers will definitely be interesting.
some crazy time loophole thing i guess. and i think cap marvel is gonna somehow play into that.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm not sure why so many people are hung up on that "8 years later" thing. Yes, it was a mistake that they probably should have caught but just look at it as a mistake and move on.

Not hung up, it was a head scratcher.

 

[sueb1863]

EDIT: I think all kinds of people are coming back and not just the dust bunnies. I can hear the howls now. Look! It's Quicksilver!!!
Aaaaaoooooooooo!!!!!

Heck, I'd be happy if somebody just MENTIONED Quicksilver. Even Wanda seems to have completely forgotten her brother ever existed.

 

[sueb1863]

I
I got out of the movie 2 hours ago. My only gripe was how easily Strange handed over the time stone.

That bugged me too, until it was pointed out that

Spoiler

Strange had seen all of the possible outcomes of their fight, and they only won in one scenario. So he knew what they'd have to do to win, and apparently it had to do with Tony staying alive. So Strange knew he had to give Thanos the time stone to keep Tony alive so they would ultimately win, not that day but later on down the line.

Strange later says "It was the only way" because he knows that it was.

 

[squeekness]

Heck, I'd be happy if somebody just MENTIONED Quicksilver. Even Wanda seems to have completely forgotten her brother ever existed.

Some people grieve by not bringing up the dead.

 

[sueb1863]

Some people grieve by not bringing up the dead.

I know, but not even a picture of him in her home?

I'd love for them to somehow bring Quicksilver in in IW2 but at this point a lot of casual viewers wouldn't have any idea who he was since nobody has talked about him for two movies now.

 

[Web-Head]

Quicksilver being killed off is still a little silly to me. I know they kinda gave Whedon free reign but they should've nipped that