Easter Lily
Civilian
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I think someone's comment about been overwhelmed and underwhelmed at the same time sums it up for me. I wouldn't mind having another look because there were bits of dialogue that I missed. I've been trying to work out why is it that I'm not wowed by the whole experience although there were moments when I did feel awestruck. Of all the Avengers, I was most impressed by Thor's arc and interactions. The action sequences in Titan were a lot of fun too. The Wakanda battle although visually spectacular (especially the initial charge with Cap and BP running ahead of everyone, seemed prosaic... a LOTR wannabe but without the emotional impact. Very by the numbers. Until the arrival of Thor, that is. On top of that I don't know how I feel about Bruce Banner being used primarily as comic relief either. Drax I get... There's always been a silly side to him but I felt he was generally under utilized as well.
It was an ambitious undertaking obviously bringing so many characters together and yet on some level, it felt very unambitious in terms of how Thanos was able to take the stones as easily as he did. Perhaps the show is saying that the superheroes lack moral authority with all their petty agendas. Perhaps Stephen Strange had a trick or two up his sleeve when he handed the time stone over. Perhaps some things have to be allowed to play themselves out in order for Thanos to be truly and soundly defeated. I choose to believe that's the case.
Thanos' simplistic Malthusian convictions saw some rigorous back and forth between the husband and myself. We were both interested in the fact that it wasn't power for power sake that he wanted to claim the infinity stones but that he saw himself as a Nietzschean saviour figure. The strong man of the universe to take the reins and do some course correction. From his perspective he was the man who had the will and the courage to do what was necessary. In a morally relativistic universe... why not? The person with the greatest power and the greatest strength can make that decision for lesser mortals. Rule of law? Pffft... On what basis can anyone say that Thanos is wrong in his convictions?
It's true on some level that the film is self-contained but it also feels unfinished. I'm not fazed by the adversary having the advantage... to some degree that was also done in Civil War (which is probably the best MCU film for me) but it's clear that the Avengers and friends will need to regain some kind of moral authority if they are thinking about defeating Thanos. Despite the temporary alliances formed, it's all very tenuous and petty. They lack real conviction on a cosmic scale which Thanos seems to have in spades. It feels like he's the adult in the room and they're all kids mucking around in the sandpit. Not sure if I'm reading too much into it. But if that's the case... I'm fine with where the show left off.
As an action film, it's there's plenty of joy to be had. But thematically I don't think the show is as cohesively put together as I'd like. I would go so far as to say that the action in the show drowns out the underlying theme in the way I didn't feel was the case in Whedon's Avenger films.
It was an ambitious undertaking obviously bringing so many characters together and yet on some level, it felt very unambitious in terms of how Thanos was able to take the stones as easily as he did. Perhaps the show is saying that the superheroes lack moral authority with all their petty agendas. Perhaps Stephen Strange had a trick or two up his sleeve when he handed the time stone over. Perhaps some things have to be allowed to play themselves out in order for Thanos to be truly and soundly defeated. I choose to believe that's the case.
Thanos' simplistic Malthusian convictions saw some rigorous back and forth between the husband and myself. We were both interested in the fact that it wasn't power for power sake that he wanted to claim the infinity stones but that he saw himself as a Nietzschean saviour figure. The strong man of the universe to take the reins and do some course correction. From his perspective he was the man who had the will and the courage to do what was necessary. In a morally relativistic universe... why not? The person with the greatest power and the greatest strength can make that decision for lesser mortals. Rule of law? Pffft... On what basis can anyone say that Thanos is wrong in his convictions?
It's true on some level that the film is self-contained but it also feels unfinished. I'm not fazed by the adversary having the advantage... to some degree that was also done in Civil War (which is probably the best MCU film for me) but it's clear that the Avengers and friends will need to regain some kind of moral authority if they are thinking about defeating Thanos. Despite the temporary alliances formed, it's all very tenuous and petty. They lack real conviction on a cosmic scale which Thanos seems to have in spades. It feels like he's the adult in the room and they're all kids mucking around in the sandpit. Not sure if I'm reading too much into it. But if that's the case... I'm fine with where the show left off.
As an action film, it's there's plenty of joy to be had. But thematically I don't think the show is as cohesively put together as I'd like. I would go so far as to say that the action in the show drowns out the underlying theme in the way I didn't feel was the case in Whedon's Avenger films.
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