Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread

[legendkillin]

Does anyone think Shuri somehow tampered with the Mind Stone but left it in Visions head?

Maybe she corrupted it somehow. It seemed like she was done with it if I recall correctly.

She didn't say she was done, it is possible she did enough to impact what was suppose to happen when done.

 

[Thanoss]

All the stones worked promptly since the snap did its thing

 

[Leenie]

The more I think about this movie, the more I believe that the Twitter hype is true:

This film may be our current generation's "Empire Strikes Back."

 

[Elayis]

I apologize in advance for how disjointed (and probably very error filled) this post is. Didn’t feel like taking the time to clean it up at all, this is just my initial thoughts as they came to me.

While there were plenty of things I didn’t like about Civil War, at least that film had an emotional conflict at its core that was quite powerful. I had a feeling that Infinity War would fall flat in this area given that its primarily built around spectacle without any character development or conflict tied into it. Nonstop action films may work for some people, but without a reason to care about what’s happening I can’t get emotionally involved. It’s not enough to rely on past movies to provide assumed empathy.

Too much telling instead of showing. Very little character work, and what there is either very superficial or poorly handled (either bad writing or awkward tonal shifts). I was very surprised that outside of Thor, Thanos, Gamora and maybe Stark none of the characters had much of a role in the film. I was especially disappointed Cap did basically nothing for the entire movie. None of the deaths felt real or meaningful. And in regards to the ending, I understand the need to pull off that amount of carnage in a way that still jives with the PG-13 rating, but there had to be a more impactful way to pull it off without resorting to ash; it just made the deaths (which we know the majority of will be reversed) even less impactful. Lots of cartoony CGI, and while Thanos had some good moments, none of it was Apes/Avatar level, and almost all of his fight scenes were near Steppenwolf quality. It was only the close-up where you could see the detail that it sometimes looked good. The Black Order henchmen were basically forgettable, and what a waste of Carrie Coon. Red Skull served no purpose; not only was it stupid to bring the character back with Hugo Weaving (and with a cheap imitator at that), but his being in that role was pointless; it could’ve been anybody else and it wouldn’t have effected anything.

A lot of the plot problems the characters had to solve felt a lot like Man of Steel’s third act. A lot of busy work that ultimately had no emotional ties to any of the characters. “Fit tab a through slot b under a ticking clock.”

It was incredibly stupid that so many characters willingly gave up infinity stones to Thanos to save a single person when they were risking the lives of TRILLIONS of people. And Starlord causing Thanos to escape when he was otherwise contain and immobile (and Spidey ALMOST had the gauntlet) is basically a crime against humanity.

Not only did the characters’ power levels fluctuate based on the needs of the script at any given moment, but the way Thanos went about his “plan” was severely lacking in imagination. He’s trying to save the universe by killing half the population. But having the infinity gauntlet gives him limitless possibilities. He could do practically anything with it: create more food/resources, make it so the extra people never existed, go back in time and change things to a more extreme so that problem didn’t happen. All kinds of things; instead, he mostly just punches everybody to get what he wants.

Same goes for how the heroes fought. Why didn’t Strange just portal the villains away immediately, instead of waiting until they were beaten?

Also, was very disappointed by how much the GotG/Ragnarok approach to humor infected this film. Yes, levity is perfectly understandable and necessary in apocalyptic situations like this, but it can handled better and with more taste. This juvenile, frat boy humor is beyond old at this point.

Not really sure about a score, but probably somewhere between 6.5 & 7. It’s mid to lower tier MCU for me, and a big step down compared to Ragnarok & Black Panther. I even prefer Homecoming & CW, films that I’m pretty lukewarm on. Overall, I’m not very excited for Avengers 4. Of course I’ll see it, just to see how they wrap it up, but I’m much more excited for Captain Marvel, Spidey 2 & Black Widow (if that’s actually happening). I think at this point I’m tired of the Russos/two M’s take on the MCU; I’m only really interested in new voices and what unique spins they may bring to the universe.

 

[Thanoss]

Movie opens with them already in Thor's ship scanning over dead bodies. I don't believe any footage of Xandar Power gem taking exist.

so that runtime was only on premiere and probably will be on blu ray etc

 

[thorstone]

It was good but long. It was more like a DC film (for better and worse). The action was strong, but it needs to lose half an hour. We don't need the Scarlet Witch and Vision stuff or the scene with Pepper. Some of the Wakanda scenes could be cut back. The scene with Ross at the base could be cut out entirely.

It would be an easier film to watch again without some of the fat.

 

[BigThor]

Full review in the morning!

 

[Val Hallen]

I apologize in advance for how disjointed (and probably very error filled) this post is. Didn’t feel like taking the time to clean it up at all, this is just my initial thoughts as they came to me.

While there were plenty of things I didn’t like about Civil War, at least that film had an emotional conflict at its core that was quite powerful. I had a feeling that Infinity War would fall flat in this area given that its primarily built around spectacle without any character development or conflict tied into it. Nonstop action films may work for some people, but without a reason to care about what’s happening I can’t get emotionally involved. It’s not enough to rely on past movies to provide assumed empathy.

Too much telling instead of showing. Very little character work, and what there is either very superficial or poorly handled (either bad writing or awkward tonal shifts). I was very surprised that outside of Thor, Thanos, Gamora and maybe Stark none of the characters had much of a role in the film. I was especially disappointed Cap did basically nothing for the entire movie. None of the deaths felt real or meaningful. And in regards to the ending, I understand the need to pull off that amount of carnage in a way that still jives with the PG-13 rating, but there had to be a more impactful way to pull it off without resorting to ash; it just made the deaths (which we know the majority of will be reversed) even less impactful. Lots of cartoony CGI, and while Thanos had some good moments, none of it was Apes/Avatar level, and almost all of his fight scenes were near Steppenwolf quality. It was only the close-up where you could see the detail that it sometimes looked good. The Black Order henchmen were basically forgettable, and what a waste of Carrie Coon. Red Skull served no purpose; not only was it stupid to bring the character back with Hugo Weaving (and with a cheap imitator at that), but his being in that role was pointless; it could’ve been anybody else and it wouldn’t have effected anything.

A lot of the plot problems the characters had to solve felt a lot like Man of Steel’s third act. A lot of busy work that ultimately had no emotional ties to any of the characters. “Fit tab a through slot b under a ticking clock.”

It was incredibly stupid that so many characters willingly gave up infinity stones to Thanos to save a single person when they were risking the lives of TRILLIONS of people. And Starlord causing Thanos to escape when he was otherwise contain and immobile (and Spidey ALMOST had the gauntlet) is basically a crime against humanity.

Not only did the characters’ power levels fluctuate based on the needs of the script at any given moment, but the way Thanos went about his “plan” was severely lacking in imagination. He’s trying to save the universe by killing half the population. But having the infinity gauntlet gives him limitless possibilities. He could do practically anything with it: create more food/resources, make it so the extra people never existed, go back in time and change things to a more extreme so that problem didn’t happen. All kinds of things; instead, he mostly just punches everybody to get what he wants.

Same goes for how the heroes fought. Why didn’t Strange just portal the villains away immediately, instead of waiting until they were beaten?

Also, was very disappointed by how much the GotG/Ragnarok approach to humor infected this film. Yes, levity is perfectly understandable and necessary in apocalyptic situations like this, but it can handled better and with more taste. This juvenile, frat boy humor is beyond old at this point.

Not really sure about a score, but probably somewhere between 6.5 & 7. It’s mid to lower tier MCU for me, and a big step down compared to Ragnarok & Black Panther. I even prefer Homecoming & CW, films that I’m pretty lukewarm on. Overall, I’m not very excited for Avengers 4. Of course I’ll see it, just to see how they wrap it up, but I’m much more excited for Captain Marvel, Spidey 2 & Black Widow (if that’s actually happening). I think at this point I’m tired of the Russos/two M’s take on the MCU; I’m only really interested in new voices and what unique spins they may bring to the universe.

Wow.

 

[Charzhin0]

Im already hyped for part 2 and really intrigued how they approach the conclusion of this saga.

I know they wont/cant do this but it would be off the scales cool if Adam Warlock shows up in the next part, looks at the situation and the remaining Avengers alive and says this isnt enough to take on Thanos. Then he asks Dr Strange to open up a portal and bring in the Xmen/F4 from an alternate reality to join the Avengers and launch one last mega assault on the mad Titan with the entire Marvel multiverse

 

[Charzhin0]

Not only did the characters’ power levels fluctuate based on the needs of the script at any given moment, but the way Thanos went about his “plan” was severely lacking in imagination. He’s trying to save the universe by killing half the population. But having the infinity gauntlet gives him limitless possibilities. He could do practically anything with it: create more food/resources, make it so the extra people never existed, go back in time and change things to a more extreme so that problem didn’t happen. All kinds of things; instead, he mostly just punches everybody to get what he wants.

This is 1 thing that bothered me too and why I had wished that Mistress Death was in this film because shes the reason Thanos wants to kill in the comics; to gain her acceptance. The old cartoon where they rename her Lady Chaos get Thanos' characterisation correctly. The show depicts him as a real Mad Titan, mindlessly blabbering to a stone statue repeatedly to gain her admiration, but getting no response.

 

[legendkillin]

Im already hyped for part 2 and really intrigued how they approach the conclusion of this saga.

I know they wont/cant do this but it would be off the scales cool if Adam Warlock shows up in the next part, looks at the situation and the remaining Avengers alive and says this isnt enough to take on Thanos. Then he asks Dr Strange to open up a portal and bring in the Xmen/F4 from an alternate reality to join the Avengers and launch one last mega assault on the mad Titan with the entire Marvel multiverse

I prefer the more personal approach they are taking. Letting the originals have most of the movie and the glory of taking down Thanos.
Rocket lost Yondu in GOTG2, his best friend Groot for the 2nd time and all the other GOTG.
Don't need to clutter with all those other characters and Warlock hasn't been introduced yet, his story is based off the Sovereign. They don't seem like they will get involved in this.

 

[Batmannerism]

The more I think about this movie, the more I believe that the Twitter hype is true:

This film may be our current generation's "Empire Strikes Back."

Totally agree, ESB is the best comparison.

That's why I feel critics are failing to recognise what an achievement this film is - maybe thats just the fan in me, but this film really feels like the most epic comic book battles brought to life - the battle on Titan, where Tony, Strange, Spidey and the Guardians team up to fight Thanos....its like something out of an old Jim Starlin comic.

Btw did everyone notice the special shout out to Starlin in the credits ? The man who created Thanos, and a great artist/storyteller.

 

[BigThor]

Totally agree, ESB is the best comparison.

That's why I feel critics are failing to recognise what an achievement this film is - maybe thats just the fan in me, but this film really feels like the most epic comic book battles brought to life - the battle on Titan, where Tony, Strange, Spidey and the Guardians team up to fight Thanos....its like something out of an old Jim Starlin comic.

Btw did everyone notice the special shout out to Starlin in the credits ? The man who created Thanos, and a great artist/storyteller.

Yeah this is the most "comic book" of any comic book film ever by a mile.

 

[Batmannerism]

Yeah this is the most "comic book" of any comic book film ever by a mile.

And not just any comic book, but an epic cosmic drama.

I almost feel like its a different species of cbm from the Captain America movies, and it even makes Avengers feel a bit small scale.

 

[Charzhin0]

I prefer the more personal approach they are taking. Letting the originals have most of the movie and the glory of taking down Thanos.
Rocket lost Yondu in GOTG2, his best friend Groot for the 2nd time and all the other GOTG.
Don't need to clutter with all those other characters and Warlock hasn't been introduced yet, his story is based off the Sovereign. They don't seem like they will get involved in this.

Ye I understand that approach too, but it was just my personal preference. Thor, Hulk, IM and Cap with Rocket fighting Thanos on the moon though with the universe at stake still sounds a brilliant way to end this run. Definitely more personal.

 

[BigThor]

And not just any comic book, but an epic cosmic drama.

I almost feel like its a different species of cbm from the Captain America movies, and it even makes Avengers feel a bit small scale.

It makes The Avengers feel VERY small scale and it does feel like a different species of CBM.

More in line with Guardians and Ragnarok in terms of scale and style not to mention being heavily cosmic.

 

[Y0nder]

I wonder what happened between the Collector and The Grandmaster. Thanos said to Tivan "You even sacrifice your own brother for one of these trinkets" or something along those lines. Interesting detail. Did Tivan banish Grandmaster to Sakaar somehow?

 

[Levsky]

It was incredibly stupid that so many characters willingly gave up infinity stones to Thanos to save a single person when they were risking the lives of TRILLIONS of people. And Starlord causing Thanos to escape when he was otherwise contain and immobile (and Spidey ALMOST had the gauntlet) is basically a crime against humanity.

I couldn't disagree more. I think you refer to Loki, Strange and Gamora? Well, let's remember that Loki didn't intend to leave him alive with Space Stone. He was stalling to have a chance of killing Thanos (which was understandable for a character like Loki). In case of Doctor Strange, we were led to believe that it is part of this bigger scenario in which they can win only if they let Thanos complete the Gauntlet. Also, I found it very believable how Gamora decided to take Thanos to Vormir. I know it's very easy from audience's point of view to say that trillions of lives in the universe are more important than a single person but it wouldn't be so easy to watch our loved ones being tortured knowing that we could do something about it. It's a human thing to do. Anyway, we can't know for sure that Gamora didn't have any plan after reaching Vormir. She may have wanted to try to kill him again there if odds were different.

the way Thanos went about his “plan” was severely lacking in imagination. He’s trying to save the universe by killing half the population. But having the infinity gauntlet gives him limitless possibilities. He could do practically anything with it: create more food/resources, make it so the extra people never existed, go back in time and change things to a more extreme so that problem didn’t happen. All kinds of things; instead, he mostly just punches everybody to get what he wants.

Alright, but that's the thing about Thanos: he's mad. He's a very intelligent but at the same time insane being whose plans and motives have a perfect sense for him because he has this God complex and he believes he's the only one strong enough to be capable of making tough decisions about the universe's fate. I think it was deliberate to make him choose killing people, so simple, brutal and primal way of handling problems, over more complicated methods like trying to reshape the laws of the universe. Perhaps he thought it wouldn't change anything because the nature of all living things is that some people live in poverty while others are rich and that wars for resources and expansion can't be just erased. We also know from the movie that he truly believes him killing Gamora's people was an act of mercy and salvation from the evilness of the world. So, he believed his insane method was the best in its simplicity and it's okay, I get his point even though I don't agree.

 

[ElMariachi]

Of course the dusted characters will return. That's not the point guys. The Old Guard Avengers who are still alive will have to sacrifice themselves to save them. I think the real losses, besides Gamora/Loki/Vision/ etc, come in the next movie.

There is a reason these particular characters are still alive.

 

[Batmannerism]

It makes The Avengers feel VERY small scale and it does feel like a different species of CBM.

More in line with Guardians and Ragnarok in terms of scale and style not to mention being heavily cosmic.

Yeah, but Guardians and Ragnarok on steroids and with even heavier drama.

 

[BigThor]

Yeah, but Guardians and Ragnarok on steroids and with even heavier drama.

On the strongest steroids ever mixed with every protein shake and pre workout in existence.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The more I think about this movie, the more I believe that the Twitter hype is true:

This film may be our current generation's "Empire Strikes Back."

This felt more like Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows Part 1 to me. TESB felt like a much more complete story. Yes, the fate of Han and such lingered as dingling threads, but here it ends on a more direct cliffhanger. It felt more akin to Voldemort finding the Elder Wand.

 

[markjoedelonge]

This felt more like Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows Part 1 to me. TESB felt like a much more complete story. Yes, the fate of Han and such lingered as dingling threads, but here it ends on a more direct cliffhanger. It felt more akin to Voldemort finding the Elder Wand.

Yeah I agree with you.

 

[BigThor]

I third that.

 

[SuperSanchez]

This felt more like Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows Part 1 to me. TESB felt like a much more complete story. Yes, the fate of Han and such lingered as dingling threads, but here it ends on a more direct cliffhanger. It felt more akin to Voldemort finding the Elder Wand.

I disagree. If you look at it from the Avengers perspective, yes it is a cliffhanger (TESB also left us on a cliffhanger though also)
But, if you look at it as Thanos's story, it's a full story. He achieved what he needed to achieve and overcome the obstacles in his way just like The Avengers got through there obstacles in the first 2 movies, but ended up winning in the end.