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Avengers: Secret Wars General News & Discussion Thread

As I said elsewhere, Anti-Hype has consumed me. Marvel has 100% lost me
 
I don't see why recasting was such a bad option, instead they are tossing Dr.Doom away a classic villain. He maybe their most classic. RDJ will act it well, but we only get 2 films when we should have Doom around for a longer time.

By not recasting Kang, it seems like they admit they messed up his whole setup. Quantumania was very bad, but now no reason to really watch it again.
Multiverse Madness could have been the setup if Doom was planned.

Now instead of Doom being introduced and setup in F4 for the future we get a rushed one.
 
We are instead getting Iron Doom. I am refusing to call this Dr Doom. Marvel is just reanimating Stark's dead corpse and stealing the Doctor Doom name. This is Iron Doom
 
idk why people are sky is falling mode for this

he's quite obviously going to be some type of variant and not prime victor, who we'll get later on for F4 2/3

plus mcfeely is back writing, we're fine lol
 
idk why people are sky is falling mode for this

he's quite obviously going to be some type of variant and not prime victor, who we'll get later on for F4 2/3

plus mcfeely is back writing, we're fine lol
Thats not going to happen, amigo. They're using the Doomsday branding on the largest IP they have now. This IS the Doctor Doom story. We are not getting a new Doom in the near future or punting the ball so he can be a future FF villain. This is it. It's the bullet in the chamber.
 
idk why people are sky is falling mode for this

he's quite obviously going to be some type of variant and not prime victor, who we'll get later on for F4 2/3

plus mcfeely is back writing, we're fine lol
This is their Hail Mary, we are not getting a true Victor Von Doom as Dr.Doom sadly. These are likely the end of Avenger movies for a long time anyways so they don't care. They will focus on X-Men stories and some collabs with X-Men focused stories.

They been in this situation before with Mandarin does not make sense to try again story & fan wise. Disney knows RDJ in the MCU equals a billion
 
I'm not a fan of this casting, but I'm not expecting them to actually make this version of Doom actually be (related to) Tony Stark. I imagine he'll just be Victor and RDJ will do a very different voice, and have the mask on most of the time (maybe even do it Mandalorian style with him not even always needing to be on set since he can dub over a body double), and if we see him without the mask he's covered in prosthetics from his face being melted/scarred.
 
I'm not a fan of this casting, but I'm not expecting them to actually make this version of Doom actually be (related to) Tony Stark. I imagine he'll just be Victor and RDJ will do a very different voice, and have the mask on most of the time (maybe even do it Mandalorian style with him not even always needing to be on set since he can dub over a body double), and if we see him without the mask he's covered in prosthetics from his face being melted/scarred.
They didnt paid RDJ 100Mil+x USD and not showing his face, I doubt that.

I readed the Thunderbolts will be in there? Must be the first fight where they get kicked their ass so Avengers need also to be called :lol:
 
This is their Hail Mary, we are not getting a true Victor Von Doom as Dr.Doom sadly. These are likely the end of Avenger movies for a long time anyways so they don't care. They will focus on X-Men stories and some collabs with X-Men focused stories.

They been in this situation before with Mandarin does not make sense to try again story & fan wise. Disney knows RDJ in the MCU equals a billion
again, idk why ppl are thinking this, there were rumors of rdj/doom a few years ago

the movie is SECRET WARS, if they're any sort of faithful to the comics, it should end in a universe reset, which means, F4 brought into prime timeline/universe reset with proper victor
 
They're not going to do Doom after this. Thinking otherwise is reaching at best. This is the character's time in the spotlight, for better or for worse (it's the latter).

And pretty sure RDJ as Doom wasn't a rumor until a few weeks ago, not years.
 
there was fan speculation about it in at least 2023 when feige/favreau revealed that he was considered for 2005 doom

i think this has been in the cards for a while, feige is very selective at dropping his hints
 
That's not the same thing as him potentially playing Doom in the MCU though. The rumor wasn't brought up until a few weeks ago.
 
The only thing that has me curious about the Secret Wars logo is the colors of Red and Gold. Maybe RDJ is a variant Doom in Doomsday and he gets killed at the end by the real Doom? Then he plays an Iron Man variant in Secret Wars?

I'm trying to think of ways that would make me like this decision.
 
I'm not a fan of this casting, but I'm not expecting them to actually make this version of Doom actually be (related to) Tony Stark. I imagine he'll just be Victor and RDJ will do a very different voice, and have the mask on most of the time (maybe even do it Mandalorian style with him not even always needing to be on set since he can dub over a body double), and if we see him without the mask he's covered in prosthetics from his face being melted/scarred.
If they didn't want him to be related to Stark, they wouldn't have cast Tony Stark
 
The only thing that has me curious about the Secret Wars logo is the colors of Red and Gold. Maybe RDJ is a variant Doom in Doomsday and he gets killed at the end by the real Doom? Then he plays an Iron Man variant in Secret Wars?

I'm trying to think of ways that would make me like this decision.
Another user presented this idea and let me ask you this: how much did you love Rise of Skywalker? When Snoke died and they subbed him for Palpatine. Or how much would you had loved Deathly Hallows Part 1 if Salazar Slytheran came back from the dead at the very end, murdered Voldemort, and then he was the big bad of Part 2? Bad ideas right? That's what this would be. Spend 2 movies developing 1 villain. Not developing 1 villain for an entire movie for the sake of a swerve.
 
Another user presented this idea and let me ask you this: how much did you love Rise of Skywalker? When Snoke died and they subbed him for Palpatine. Or how much would you had loved Deathly Hallows Part 1 if Salazar Slytheran came back from the dead at the very end, murdered Voldemort, and then he was the big bad of Part 2? Bad ideas right? That's what this would be. Spend 2 movies developing 1 villain. Not developing 1 villain for an entire movie for the sake of a swerve.

Yeah you're right. That wouldn't be ideal.
 
I don't see why recasting was such a bad option, instead they are tossing Dr.Doom away a classic villain. He maybe their most classic. RDJ will act it well, but we only get 2 films when we should have Doom around for a longer time.

By not recasting Kang, it seems like they admit they messed up his whole setup. Quantumania was very bad, but now no reason to really watch it again.
Multiverse Madness could have been the setup if Doom was planned.

Now instead of Doom being introduced and setup in F4 for the future we get a rushed one.
We lose the best of Doom and Kang this way. Not ideal at all.
 

I would be surprised if he's not in at least 1 of them.

And Marvel Studios better bring back Halle Berry, Famke Jannsen and Anna Paquin. I need to see them in those almighty X-Men costumes! I know they already brought back Jennifer Garner, but it can't be all the male cast members from the Fox-Men era, having all the fun in the MCU.
 

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