The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Based on ASM2's box office and quality, was rebooting a mistake?

[Kahran Ramsus]

Gwen would no longer be Parker's first love and they already used the Gwen Stacy fall in SM1.

Plus Gwen for SM3 was just a very dull character. I can't see her death having as much impact as Emma Stone's.

No, I mean kill MJ and have Gwen be her replacement.

Not that I think they necessarily needed to go in that direction. But it could be done if they chose too.

 

[ironman29758]

Which is why he graduated high school in the sequel instead of the first one.

I remember when the reboot started, it was because they wanted to make it cheaper than the Raimi moves and focus more on his high school years. Clearly that didn't happen. And it can never really happen because the actor who plays him can't look like he's in high school forever.

that's why I would have Peter, that's what irked me for both movie. I do wish we showed him in high school and develop him into being a better hero before he go to college, but honestly Webb Spider-Man probably would work better on a TV show instead of movie.

 

[TWayneP]

No, I mean kill MJ and have Gwen be her replacement.

Not that I think they necessarily needed to go in that direction. But it could be done if they chose too.

Yea I think about this all the time haha.

With Kirsten being a Blonde and Bryce Dallas Howard begin a red head + super model looks. I sometimes wished the roles would have been swapped, having Kirsten playing Gwen would have been great. But thats beside the point.

Gwen was friggin modeling in SM3 for Fs sake, lol. She would have been looked at as the comic MJ in that series for sure. Im glad they didn't end up going that route.

I understand why they went with MJ in the first movie, kind of like how Joker killed Bruces parents in Batman89. Its just a collage of the greatest things about the character mixed into each other adapted to make a movie. At the time you don't know if it will succeed, so you want to try and make the best "Spider-Man" film possible.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

Ugh..That thing isn't Gwen.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Its just a collage of the greatest things about the character mixed into each other adapted to make a movie. At the time you don't know if it will succeed, so you want to try and make the best "Spider-Man" film possible.

Same reason why Green Goblin was the villain for the first film.

It wasn't the only adaptation to just go with MJ right away. The 90s Animated Show and the Ultimate Spider-Man comic did too.

 

[Shikamaru]

Which is why he graduated high school in the sequel instead of the first one.

I remember when the reboot started, it was because they wanted to make it cheaper than the Raimi moves and focus more on his high school years. Clearly that didn't happen. And it can never really happen because the actor who plays him can't look like he's in high school forever.

They gave him a whole film in school. That's already developing his high school years more, since the first film only spent the first 20-30 minutes in high school. Then the second film took place in between graduation and the start of college, other than the final few scenes. We wont see him in college till the third film. They're still aging him slowly. It's as slow and as fast as you can age him given the time gap between these movies. If this was a TV series, that would be a different story.

 

[mclay18]

After seeing TASM2, I waffled between the third and fourth options. At the end, I picked "Raimi and co should've done two more", and I think it would've been doable. Raimi went back to his lower-budget roots when he did "Drag Me to Hell", and he could've been more efficient with storytelling/plot on SM-4 and SM-5. And maybe not make MJ a shrew/plot device.

The first TASM let me conflicted, and I hated the idea of a redone origin story so quickly after the first set of films. Garfield rubbed me the wrong way, and I really don't like how people say how his iteration is better just because it's more faithful to the comics. But TASM2 had me throw in the towel. Garfield was better, the ending was superb -- but virtually everything else was terrible.

Hell, I would've been happier if they recast the roles and director -- and go for the same continuity -- for SM-4 and SM-5. It worked for 007 and BF.

 

[Spooderman]

I would have done a non-spider-man film like Wild Pack or Black Cat, a few years after SM3, but a few years before SM4. That would allow Sony to keep the rights while placing several years between the series.

Oh, and I would make the first film much different than TASM.

 

[Sevprince]

I think rebooting it was good idea but they shouldn't have told the origin again. I think they should have went younger with the characters. Maybe adapt spectacular spiderman animated.

 

[chaseter]

The reboot has failed to do anything worthwhile and this incarnation of Spider-Man will be forgotten when the next incarnation comes along....sort of as the middle child no one cares about (box office and critically rated).

 

[sl500jazz]

Yea I think about this all the time haha.

With Kirsten being a Blonde and Bryce Dallas Howard begin a red head + super model looks. I sometimes wished the roles would have been swapped, having Kirsten playing Gwen would have been great. But thats beside the point.

Gwen was friggin modeling in SM3 for Fs sake, lol. She would have been looked at as the comic MJ in that series for sure. Im glad they didn't end up going that route.

I understand why they went with MJ in the first movie, kind of like how Joker killed Bruces parents in Batman89. Its just a collage of the greatest things about the character mixed into each other adapted to make a movie. At the time you don't know if it will succeed, so you want to try and make the best "Spider-Man" film possible.

Alternate universe Gwen and MJ

Seriously though, I'm satisfied with the reboot even if I don't agree with everything that they've done/are doing.

 

[TWayneP]

Alternate universe Gwen and MJ

Seriously though, I'm satisfied with the reboot even if I don't agree with everything that they've done/are doing.

Gah, now thats what I'm talking about! haha... How I wish it would have gone. Its so funny to me lol.

Same with Emma Stone. The key here I guess is that They need to cast a Blonde actress as the new MJ

 

[AnneFan]

This is a tricky one for me. I am primarily a Raimi Spidey fan. I would have jumped at the opportunity for him to continue, another two films. I loved Maguire in the role and he'll always be my guy. But I was satisfied with TASM2 and thus the reboot is on track from my point of view.

 

[Visualiza]

The reboot has failed to do anything worthwhile and this incarnation of Spider-Man will be forgotten when the next incarnation comes along....sort of as the middle child no one cares about (box office and critically rated).

Indeed. Kinda reminds me of Brosnan's Bond movies in that respect, save for Goldeneye. Shame, because I appreciate Garfield as an actor in the same way I did Brosnan, it's just that the movies he's in are sub-par, and in the case of this recent one, downright embarrassing. *shrugs*

 

[TWayneP]

Indeed. Kinda reminds me of Brosnan's Bond movies in that respect, save for Goldeneye. Shame, because I appreciate Garfield as an actor in the same way I did Brosnan, it's just that the movies he's in are sub-par, and in the case of this recent one, downright embarrassing. *shrugs*

funny you mention bond as Spidey is Sonys Bond. There will be several more incarnations for different folks to enjoy.

Right now Im enjoying the Amazing series and I can't wait to see whats next.

 

[InJustice]

I think Sony should've let the audiences forget about the Raimi series and then proceed with the reboot. My problem with ASM is that it offered nothing in terms of new interpretations (except for Spider-Man's characterization and Oscorp having a larger role), so it feels a lot like you're playing a remake of a classic video game with barely any new content added.

Additionally, Sony should've focused on creating quality standalone movies that leads to a larger universe. For instance, instead of shoehorning in 3 villains in ASM2, why not take some time to create the Sinister 6? What this tells me is that Sony's team did not learn from their mistakes in Spider-Man 3.

 

[Heretic]

If you're a company considering buying the rights to make Spider-Man movie, and you are so uncommitted and disinterested in the character that you can't be bothered to think that the property SCREAMS mass market viability and the potential for many sequels, then do us all a favor and don't buy the property rights.

They were given the best hand possible...and still blew it...so they rebooted the franchise too soon and the market felt burned.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

They should have just keep going in the same canon. Garfield could have still been Peter and Stone could have played MJ.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

option 2 and 3 are horrible ideas. look what happened to the first batman series

 

[Heretic]

We're going to blame the crap Batman movies on recasts? Spidey and Batman should be able to tell decades of stories without retelling stories. No cast is going to stick around that long. Rather than see Harvey Dent become Two Face AGAIN, I'd rather just recast Batman...assume that everything that Bale did actually happened...and make a new Batman movie. Same with Spidey. You don't have to start over with a powerless Peter just because a new actor stepped into the role.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Apparently Marvel Studios want to continue the MCU films by recasting endlessly and without rebooting.

It will be interesting if that strategy works outside of James Bond movies.

I have a feeling Hollywood typically wants to avoid franchise fatigue which is why they usually reboot with a fresh and new cast, tone, and continuity.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I think audiences are more willing to accept recasts than studios think.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I voted for enjoying the rebooted series, but I'd have loved to see Raimi have one more go at the series. I think he could have redeemed his films after 3, and it was shaping up to be something good with John Malkovich. I wanted to see that movie.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I think audiences are more willing to accept recasts than studios think.

well apparently disney's not one of those studios as they're playing exactly that

 

[InJustice]

They should have just keep going in the same canon. Garfield could have still been Peter and Stone could have played MJ.

That would only serve to make the "retread/rehash/copying Raimi's movies" complaint even more prevalent.