Batman Begins or Iron Man

[Bubonic]

For me, both were epic comic book movies.
Without a doubt.

Right now I really can't think of any flagrant flaws, or hell even minor ones about Iron Man.

Batman Begins, I haven't seen in a long while, but one thing I do remember is that everytime I had to witness Katie Holmes cold and crappy performance, it took away from the greatness of the movie.

Her part was an important one in the film, and she brought down the scenes she was in. I am so happy she's been replaced.

Scarecrow as a villain, the way he was presented imo wasn't as great as it could have been, but the hallucinations were epic.

Another important factor in considering which is the best movie is the fact that Nolan had several prior sequels to study and figure out what worked and what didn't, and then go on his own path.

Favreau took a character who wasn't a fraction as known by the mainstream as Batman, which had never had more then some cartoons, and of course the comics to work from, and he got it absolutely perfect the first time around.

The casting was perfect, the story was awesome, it was a great Iron Man story, and it didn't neglect the general public or the fanboys.

Anyways, what are your thoughts, and please don't bring up how TDK will be better, that isn't relevant, that is going to be a sequel to an almost perfect movie, not the franchise starter, no Katie Holmes et cetera.

 

[Weadazoid]

It all depends on taste


BB has more ...hmmm some people would say depth, I will say art

IM has more eye candy...and I am not talking about the girls


although if we were to compare Gwyneth to Katy...well lets face it... got to go Paltrow.

 

[Symbiotic]

I like 'em both the same.

 

[Bubonic]

Damn, should of put a both option

 

[MutantGirl]

I think Batman Begins edges Iron Man out a bit, who can resist Christopher Nolan's brilliance.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I know where Batman was headed after BB. The criminals are out and the fight is going to escalate.

I don't know what they want to do with Iron Man. Mandarin or Avengers. Are they going to deal with the alcoholism?


Batman wins as a franchise starter.

 

[RickO'Connell]

Batman Begins was good but there were alot of plot holes & the fact that Nolan treated the audience like they were ******s by explaining every single thing was annoying & there were still plot holes even after every little detail was explained & don't get me started on the amount of times "fear" was said. To me Iron Man was the better movie

 

[ShaneHelms]

I'm a bigger Batman fan.

But personally i found Iron Man to be the better film.

 

[IRON_Lad]

Ironman. Although my opinion may be biased because I just saw Ironman and haven't seen Begins since last summer

 

[knight]

you can't compare BB to IM because they're both ORIGIN stories? Begins came out a few years ago whereas Iron Man JUST CAME OUT recently and everyone is still feeling that hype

and given that IM is actually a good film, then of course people are going to go with that over Begins asking that question in this point in time. A lot opinions are going to biased

truely the only films to compare are: Iron Man VS The Dark Knight

and obviously, TDK wins by default

(don't even have to see the film to know it's going to completley annihilate Iron Man) the previews alone prove this

 

[RickO'Connell]

There is no doubt that the opening weekend will be huge for The Dark Knight thanks to a sadly untimely incident but after that is anyones guess

 

[Tony Stark]

Sorry but IronMan owns BB.

Are you really going to say Katie Holme's performance was on par with Paltrow's? Even Nolan knows it wasn't, hence the recast.

There is also nothing in BB that comes even close to matching the effects and action in IM.

Now lets see what's cooler, Batman beating up a group of street thugs, or IronMan flying half way around the world being a bad ass and obliterating a terrorist cell?

TDK might be a good movie, but you wouldn't know from the trailer. Jack Nicholson addressing the group of mob leaders was funny charming and brings a smile to your face (pun intended), this new "realistic" Joker addressing a bunch of mob leaders is weird and creepy (not a scary creepy a "who the **** is this guy?" creepy).

 

[Tony Stark]

Batman Begins was good but there were alot of plot holes & the fact that Nolan treated the audience like they were ******s by explaining every single thing was annoying & there were still plot holes even after every little detail was explained & don't get me started on the amount of times "fear" was said. To me Iron Man was the better movie

You hit the nail on the head, of what annoys me about BB. On the whole I liked the movie, and outside Katie Holmes there were some great performances.

However, I couldn't stand the fact that he'd get one piece of equipment, and then go "oh crap, now I need a cape. Hey dude what do you have that I could make a cape with?", then he had his cape. Then Alfred comes in and tells him "hey all of the cowells we ordered for you are defective, so we'll have to order more." Then they order some more. etc., etc.

Iron Man they went from Mark I to Mark III armor and you didn't feel like any screen time was wasted.

 

[The Major]

These two movies shouldn't be compared. They're to different.

The Spider-man trilogy would be much better comparison.

Tony:

More time had to be shown for Begins with Bruce getting equipment since he can't build his stuff from scratch like Stark can.

 

[The Major]

I don't know what they want to do with Iron Man. Mandarin or Avengers. Are they going to deal with the alcoholism?

They're going to do more with Mandarin in the sequel, SHIELD is being build up for the Avengers movie (they'll likely have a presence but your guess is as good as mine in whether it'll deal with Avengers activities) and they're definitely setting up the alcoholism for the sequels. If they don't make it the sub-plot for 2 they will for 3.

 

[Spider-Vader]

This is hard. I have to see IM again to decide.

 

[Dynasty]

Iron Man was a better movie as fas as structure, plot, and graphics go, and downey I like more than Bale, so Iron Man gets my vote.

 

[knight]

However, I couldn't stand the fact that he'd get one piece of equipment, and then go "oh crap, now I need a cape. Hey dude what do you have that I could make a cape with?", then he had his cape. Then Alfred comes in and tells him "hey all of the cowells we ordered for you are defective, so we'll have to order more." Then they order some more. etc., etc.

Iron Man they went from Mark I to Mark III armor and you didn't feel like any screen time was wasted.

that's just your OPINION though, and mine along with many others feel that no screen time was wasted in Begins and that the transformation sequences flowed together SMOOTHLY

It's "Nolan's World of Realism" and in the "Real World" that's pretty much EXACTLY how it would happen

and that's the "Difference" between Iron Man and the new Batman franchise. "Iron Man" is set in a "fantasy world" where your transformation from Mark I to Mark III was more than likely fabricated and unrealistic whereas the Batman Franchise is set in a "real world" and your transformation from Bruce to Batman was as unfabricated and realistic as Nolan could make it

so if Begins seemed like it "dragged" for you it's because it wasn't set in a "fantasy world" whereas Iron Man was. You can take more liberties and suspend your belief more in fantasy, almost do whatever the hell you want, make transformations go as fast as you want

in the "Real World" you just can't do this

and in the end, you really can't compare Iron Man to ANY of the new Batman films. There's not enough similarities and them both being "origin stories" isn't enough

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

I'm a bigger Batman fan.

But personally i found Iron Man to be the better film.

i agree.

 

[stargazer]

I like both about the same. Iron Man was more fun, but Batman Begins has more depth.


I think Iron Man edges Batman Begins just a tiny bit, and the reason is Robert Downey's performance as Tony Stark, who I enjoyed more than Bale as Batman. But both movies are good.


However neither movie is in my top 5 CB movies. SR, STM, X-2, S2 and V for Vendetta are much more enjoyable to me.

 

[Dr Strange]

I saw Iron Man today And i really enjoyed it, it was a great start to what i hope to be a good franchise, but Batman Begins is one of my favourite films , that and Iron man are two very different films, but Batman Begins is my favourite of the two.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Damn, should of put a both option

Yeah, right now they're tied as best Comic Book Movie for me, but TDK is gonna do way better than both combined.

 

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[Darkfly]

Huge fan of both characters but despite being a bigger Batman fan I thought Iron Man was much better. I have so many bones to pick with Batman Begins (Suit, Tumbler, Dialogue, Rachael, Scarecrow, Ra Al Ghoul, finale) though very few with Iron Man. The cast in Iron Man contain some of my favourite actors same can't be said for Batman Begins minus Gary Oldman. Iron Man in my opinion is definitely the best comic book film since 1992 while Batman Begins is good its a bigger disappointment everytime I rewatch it since I find more things to nit pick at. And forget about all this nonsense about Batman Begins set in a real world & Iron Man set in a totally unrealistic one, neither of these things matter in film & especially not in a comic book film, & I personally feel Batman Begins isn't set in a realistic world.

But when it comes down to it both are great movies, I just so happen to think Iron Man is the better film, sue me.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I don't have herpes :t: