Batman/Bruce Wayne Casting Thread - Part 2

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Hahah yeaaaah what triggered me was the talk about The Batman not being in production for another couple of years. And the thought of Gyllenhaal possibly not doing it. Like, do I care to wait that long? I'll wait but do i care enough to talk about it on a forum for two years before any photos even surface? Honestly, the answer is no. And after The Last Jedi and pretty much every other blockbuster that didn't wow me in 2017, I just don't care about action movies/CBM's anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel turns Black Panther and Avengers into some safe crap.

All I gotta say now is, thank god for Deadpool, cuz I bet he's gonna make fun of this bad genre in the best ways imaginable.

Don't post much anymore, but in my opinion, the MCU has been safe the WHOLE time, what do you mean by turning now? The only films that you could argue is The Winter Soldier and the 1st Guardians that didn't play it safe. Heck, that last Black Panther trailer has me worried, I really thought we'd be getting something different, but, unfortunately, it doesn't look that way.
 
Don't post much anymore, but in my opinion, the MCU has been safe the WHOLE time, what do you mean by turning now? The only films that you could argue is The Winter Soldier and the 1st Guardians that didn't play it safe. Heck, that last Black Panther trailer has me worried, I really thought we'd be getting something different, but, unfortunately, it doesn't look that way.

Have to admit that BP trailer didn't exactly excite me either. I really liked the character in CW but I'm not feeling anything for his solo.
 
What i meant was Black Panther by Ryan Coogler has potoential to be and SHOULD be something fresh (beyond a black cast). And Avengers is super safe so far, but this is where the Russo brothers need to take risks with Thanos and killing off some big heroes. Show the stakes.
 
What i meant was Black Panther by Ryan Coogler has potoential to be and SHOULD be something fresh (beyond a black cast). And Avengers is super safe so far, but this is where the Russo brothers need to take risks with Thanos and killing off some big heroes. Show the stakes.


Well, history has shown that doesn't happen, and from set pics, it's not going to. That was my one big criticism of Civil War, no consequences for such a big title. Say what you want about BvS, but it took risks, and I like the Graphic Novel approach......wish they released the UC......
 
They took risks yes but in all of the wrong ways at the cost of every character and everything else. Risk with poor execution. The ending of Civil War was very safe. It's really too bad these movies have no balls and just end up being a product, to keep the sequels rolling in. Just like most comic books. That's why Logan and TDK Trilogy are among the best, for me. They're only focused on the story at hand.
 
This page needs more George Clooney.

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Bored cuz Clooney's one of the most boring of his generation.
 
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Yep.

As for the Clooney thing, I was actually watching The Peacemaker a couple weeks ago, 1997, same year as B&R. While not an ideal choice for Bats to me (he's not quite rough enough around the edges, and doesn't have that deep dark Keaton-y psycho thing going on), I do think back then in a totally different type/tone Batman movie he could have fit pretty damn well. His character in The Peacemaker is pretty fun, it's a pretty standard military-action-thriller type of flick, nothing great, but he brings quite a bit of physicality in that role. And the whole self-assured suave smartass Bruce Wayne thing in spades.
 
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Clooney is underappreciated treasure. He's the only reason I saw that crappy movie Tomorrowland.
 
Nah, Clooney's a smug *****ey drunken hypocritical ***hole. :oldrazz:

That's just different to whether or not he's automatically a bad choice for Batman because of B&R. In a different movie, made at about the same time, he could have been pretty on-point. Checks most of the boxes on paper at least.
 
I'd love for them to find some truly unknown and make his career off the project, but they're obviously not going to sink that kind of money on something like this and set it on the shoulders of a nobody. It always seems like the relative unknown and out of left field choices turn out to be the best with these kinds of films. I guess it's because they're free of any baggage.
 
Yeah, it's one of the only downsides to someone like Gyllenhaal (even though I'd be more than fine with him, and he probably is the front-runner for this as reported), that he's a pretty big name, comparable with Affleck.

Though, devil's advocate, probably not too many "unknowns" in their 30s, that aren't "unknown" for a reason. It's one thing with younger actors I guess, but assuming they don't want to cast really young for this it's likely to be someone with at least a bit of a profile.
 
WB just need to grow a set and make a decision, one way or another. Chose your man, stick by your decision and make the goddam film.
 
Yeah, it's one of the only downsides to someone like Gyllenhaal (even though I'd be more than fine with him, and he probably is the front-runner for this as reported), that he's a pretty big name, comparable with Affleck.

Though, devil's advocate, probably not too many "unknowns" in their 30s, that aren't "unknown" for a reason. It's one thing with younger actors I guess, but assuming they don't want to cast really young for this it's likely to be someone with at least a bit of a profile.

I don't think so. Think about ALL the people out there in Hollywood just waiting for someone to give them that opportunity. So much of that is a right place, right time, who you know situation. There have to be hundreds of super talented people out there that simply never get the opportunity. Or hell, idk...look outside the box and maybe look for a stage actor. Those tend to be totally different circles. I'd just love to see someone truly different.
 
I'd love for them to find some truly unknown and make his career off the project, but they're obviously not going to sink that kind of money on something like this and set it on the shoulders of a nobody. It always seems like the relative unknown and out of left field choices turn out to be the best with these kinds of films. I guess it's because they're free of any baggage.

Funny, when you think back to Christopher Reeve's first Superman picture he'd only had a minor part in one other film. And Supergirl was Helen Slater's debut (the film didn't exactly do well - but many of those who dislike it praise her casting/performance). I agree it's unlikely they'll take that sort of chance now with Batman.
 
Funny, when you think back to Christopher Reeve's first Superman picture he'd only had a minor part in one other film. And Supergirl was Helen Slater's debut (the film didn't exactly do well - but many of those who dislike it praise her casting/performance). I agree it's unlikely they'll take that sort of chance now with Batman.

I think they would.
 
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Yep.

As for the Clooney thing, I was actually watching The Peacemaker a couple weeks ago, 1997, same year as B&R. While not an ideal choice for Bats to me (he's not quite rough enough around the edges, and doesn't have that deep dark Keaton-y psycho thing going on), I do think back then in a totally different type/tone Batman movie he could have fit pretty damn well. His character in The Peacemaker is pretty fun, it's a pretty standard military-action-thriller type of flick, nothing great, but he brings quite a bit of physicality in that role. And the whole self-assured suave smartass Bruce Wayne thing in spades.

I love that movie. I saw it when I was 9 right around/after Batman&Robin/One Fine Day.

Dude did quite well int. Now I need to torrent it to watch when my winter semester ends.
 
Yeah, I could see them going with an unknown (or a little-known) for Batman because the Batman brand sells the movie, not necessarily the actor (provided that the movie is good). I do think Snyder and Affleck have damaged the brand, but it’s not irreparable (the same, unfortunately, might not be able to be said about Superman). Going with an unknown might actually help to revitalize the franchise; Affleck’s biggest problem when he was announced in the role was that he had a lot of baggage. Sure, plenty of people respected him as an actor and a director, but they also knew him really well as Ben Affleck. An unknown wouldn’t have that problem.
 
Reeves could possibly do that. I think even with JG, who is well known enough, Reeves was thinking more in the obscurity of the casting. And it was enough to irk WB, who want someone bigger.

Gyllenhall surrounded by unknowns would be fine, I think.
 
Reeves could possibly do that. I think even with JG, who is well known enough, Reeves was thinking more in the obscurity of the casting. And it was enough to irk WB, who want someone bigger.

Gyllenhall surrounded by unknowns would be fine, I think.

I respectfully disagree - Bale was fairly unknown to a lot of the GA, or at least he wasn't known as an A lister - unlike Freeman, Oldman etc which worked really well and i believe Nolan said he was going the Donner route - strong supporting cast and that's what i believe should be done again - Batfleck had a lot of A list tabloid baggage - j lo, daredevil etc.

However, JG could be on Bale level to some degree - 'oh i know him, not sure where'. Thing with JG, he does have wonky eyes, more so than Batfeck, i can't see past that.
 
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