BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 1

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:huh:No it wasnt. Audience reviews and Critics reviews were in agreement on ASM2 suckiness.This is not the same with MOS.

MOS suffers sadly from Transfomers curse-Liked by the audience,hated by the critics.

If MOS had been better I agree it would not be dealing with this ****.

However being hated by the critics does not affect box office-being hated by the audeince does

ASM RT 53% IMDb 7.0
MOS RT 55% IMDb 7.3

They were received similarly,both by the audience and critics
 
Im talking about Audience reception.Not critical reception.Theres nothing to debate about critical reception its as a plain as day.Im saying Audience dont agree with this

IMDb rating is an audience rating
 
comparable if you'll only consider those things but you did not consider other factors as well like ASM2 is a sequel and the 5th Spider-man movie in such a short period of time. makes sense that ASM2 will be more popular whereas MOS is a non sequel and only had one movie that was released years ago that people probably forgot even existed.
Audience are unbiased in that aspect(so are critics)
Likes of SM3 and X3 got low ratings on IMDb despite being sequels to popular films
 
I honestly feel like people are applying different sets of rules for MoS (and BvS) than other films.
 
I think the reception by the General Audience amd critics is more important for BvS than it's box office total. Of course it will have to do decent numbers at the box office, but I think that is inevitable for a film of this stature. Moving forward, for the sake of the upcoming DCCU, the quality of the film above all else should be the main focus.
 
Of course they don't, but what I am talking about is more of a halo effect on the entire DC brand as a whole. Pixar at their peak, and you could make a case for Marvel right now, have a halo effect from critics where the strength of the brand makes critics be slightly easy on weaker efforts. Cars, Brave etc. are much much below the standards of Pixar but they get soft passes from critics on RT. Same thing with IM3 and Thor 2.

Once you get the general audience's stamp of approval then critical views are irrelevant. Superman returns was well received by the critics but did not resonate well with the general audience. WB decided to reboot the franchise. The GA especially in this genre is the target group that WB and any studio seek to please not a bunch 300 people who don't have enough power to sway the majority of the masses.
 
I honestly feel like people are applying different sets of rules for MoS (and BvS) than other films.

the same can be said about critics, every movie is judged differently. there's no uniformity which makes RT or any similar site kinda pointless, only warmongering fans love them.

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the general audience doesn't really care about critic reviews, only the few noisy pretentious hipster nerds like bringing them up. people just wants to watch movies they can enjoy and release date and competition is important in this part. a movie with less competition on a time where a lot of people have free time like a holiday will always make more money especially if the movie is big.
 
the same can be said about critics, every movie is judged differently. there's no uniformity which makes RT or any similar site kinda pointless, only warmongering fans love them.

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the general audience doesn't really care about critic reviews, only the few noisy pretentious hipster nerds like bringing them up. people just wants to watch movies they can enjoy and release date and competition is important in this part. a movie with less competition on a time where a lot of people have free time like a holiday will always make more money especially if the movie is big.

I'm not talking about the quality of the film, I'm talking about how people are interpreting its reception.
 
I'm not talking about the quality of the film, I'm talking about how people are interpreting its reception.

I only pointed out that critics also review/interpret movies differently like there's a double standard, I did not say you said it.
 
I only pointed out that critics also review/interpret movies differently like there's a double standard, I did not say you said it.

I'm afraid I'm not following. What double standard are you referring to exactly?
 
jmc said people interpret the reception of the audience to movies differently from one another which is true (hence it's/like a double standard)

I likened it to movie critics who review movies differently which is also true, there's no uniformity on how each reviews are made. subjective reviews with their own share of biases are collected by RT and is accepted as "general truth" (at least by some) as the true quality of the movie.
 
I only pointed out that critics also review/interpret movies differently like there's a double standard, I did not say you said it.

Ah yes, I see what you were saying now. My apologies.
 
the same can be said about critics, every movie is judged differently. there's no uniformity which makes RT or any similar site kinda pointless, only warmongering fans love them.

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the general audience doesn't really care about critic reviews, only the few noisy pretentious hipster nerds like bringing them up. people just wants to watch movies they can enjoy and release date and competition is important in this part. a movie with less competition on a time where a lot of people have free time like a holiday will always make more money especially if the movie is big.

Oh, there are a lot of people in the general audience who care about the reviews. If nobody did, they wouldn't publish reviews in the paper. A bad review overall could mean the difference between a big opening weekend or a dissapointing boxoffice take.
 
Oh, there are a lot of people in the general audience who care about the reviews. If nobody did, they wouldn't publish reviews in the paper. A bad review overall could mean the difference between a big opening weekend or a dissapointing boxoffice take.

Transformers proves you wrong
 
Transformers proves you wrong
Plot twist: TF only makes money because they're terrible movies. The day Michael Bay makes a great movie, the box office will suffer.
 
I think BvS will do fine at the Box Office - and will beat easily MoS in that point! Even if the movie is not better...

But they have to do a better job as with MoS. If they get it not right this time, they will have a tough time at DC. Hope they learned about the failures from MoS - but personally, i do not think so...
 
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I think BvS will do fine at the Box Office - and will beat easily MoS in that point! Even if the movie is not better...

But they have to do a better job as with MoS. If they get it not right this time, they will have a tough time at DC. Hope they learned about the failures from MoS - but personally, i do not think so...
Any film should beat its predecessor when you add Batman. :cool:
 
I'm going to throw my hat into the ring and conservatively predict BvS will make a total of 1.25 billion WW and if it's really good look out sky's limit...this is easily the most anticipated movie ever for me and I will be in line for the midnight screening first time I plan on doing that.
 
Any film should beat its predecessor when you add Batman. :cool:
The majority of people believe it will, in fact it's rather silly to predict otherwise. The question is by how much?
 
Outgrossing MOS is probably guaranteed, but going the extra mile depends on how big the rewatchability factor is. I'd be confident of the billion mark (I actually kind of am, but still) if it weren't for the fact that the Spider-Man reboot grossed less after it changed cast and director, and this is a similar scenario. Then again, this has bigger stars and more characters for your buck.
 
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