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Movie will be $1B after they release the 3 hour version in theatres
Batman v Superman won't even have the critical reception or box office reception of Spider-Man 3.
idk if i should be sad or laugh...
I just can't believe they're still going through with JL with the exact same team that made BVS.
How much worse did BVS need to do for them to realize it's not working out
I love all the revisionist posts everywhere, especially in term of BO.
Before the movie most people are like "duh, this will easily break 1billion and will be Avenger level"
Now people are saying "What do you expect? This is just Iron Man 2. 850million is awesome!!! Iron Man 2 only did XXX"
It's everywhere, this forums, reddit, social media etc
It is funny and kinda sad
If you ever looked forward to this film, you'd probably be sad. If you never wanted this film to succeed in the first place, even before it came out, only then would you be laughing.
I just can't believe they're still going through with JL with the exact same team that made BVS.
How much worse did BVS need to do for them to realize it's not working out...Whatever money JL will make next year, I think it's going to do way more damage than good.
Classic case of denial.I love all the revisionist posts everywhere, especially in term of BO.
Before the movie most of the posts wee like "duh, this will easily break 1billion and will be Avenger level"
Now fans are saying "What do you expect? This is just Iron Man 2. 850million is awesome!!! Iron Man 2 only did XXX"
It's everywhere, this forums, reddit, social media etc
It is funny and kinda sad. Shouldn't we just think how it went wrong instead of coming up with excuses to justify the poor performance?
I just can't believe they're still going through with JL with the exact same team that made BVS.
How much worse did BVS need to do for them to realize it's not working out...Whatever money JL will make next year, I think it's going to do way more damage than good.
Anyone who uses the Phase 1 argument is kidding themselves. The last two Batman films made over a billion. MoS made $650 million. In order for this project to justify itself to investors, it had to make at least a bit over $1 billion. It doesn't look like it will cross that mark, heck freaking Deadpool would've made more worldwide had it opened in China. It underperformed no matter what way you spin it.
They really have no choice but to go through with it that way. It's too poisonous for any level-headed director to go near it this late in its stage, and it would be too costly to postpone the film (and even more so to shelf it again). They thought they were locked in for success due to novelty and brand recognition alone, and now they have to pay the consequences for it. We'll still get the next 3 DC films but anything they have on their lineup scheduled after 2017 should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
In the end, both the public and the studio lose. The studio loses money and good PR (as far as superhero films go), the public gets some bad superhero films. I have to agree with MovieBob that JL feels like more of a threat than something to be excited for. It feels like a threat both towards fans and towards the superhero market as a whole who now might get oversaturated with more and more bad DC films, which could potentially lead to the CBM bubble popping without WB even being aware they could cause it. I can't remember the last time I wanted a film so badly to not get made, it's unmatched in the category by every CBM but potentially Fan4stic (and even then, keep in mind that was under a director and studio who half-arsed it, whereas Snyder and WB were originally so proud of this film; hell, Snyder still is).
Well, if anything, Warner Brothers will limit the costs of production somewhat. Unless they honestly believe that Snyder made them a significant amount of revenue regardless of the criticism this movie received. But it seems the execs are backing Zack and Deborah Snyder on this and will soldier on from this movie.
Anyone who uses the Phase 1 argument is kidding themselves. The last two Batman films made over a billion. MoS made $650 million. In order for this project to justify itself to investors, it had to make at least a bit over $1 billion. It doesn't look like it will cross that mark, heck freaking Deadpool would've made more worldwide had it opened in China. It underperformed no matter what way you spin it.
They really have no choice but to go through with it that way. It's too poisonous for any level-headed director to go near it this late in its stage, and it would be too costly to postpone the film (and even more so to shelf it again). They thought they were locked in for success due to novelty and brand recognition alone, and now they have to pay the consequences for it. We'll still get the next 3 DC films but anything they have on their lineup scheduled after 2017 should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
In the end, both the public and the studio lose. The studio loses money and good PR (as far as superhero films go), the public gets some bad superhero films. I have to agree with MovieBob that JL feels like more of a threat than something to be excited for. It feels like a threat both towards fans and towards the superhero market as a whole who now might get oversaturated with more and more bad DC films, which could potentially lead to the CBM bubble popping without WB even being aware they could cause it. I can't remember the last time I wanted a film so badly to not get made, it's unmatched in the category by every CBM but potentially Fan4stic (and even then, keep in mind that was under a director and studio who half-arsed it, whereas Snyder and WB were originally so proud of this film; hell, Snyder still is).
Well, if anything, Warner Brothers will limit the costs of production somewhat. Unless they honestly believe that Snyder made them a significant amount of revenue regardless of the criticism this movie received. But it seems the execs are backing Zack and Deborah Snyder on this and will soldier on from this movie.
The truth is, anyone who has examined the DC superhero movies made in the past 10 years that weren't directed by Christopher Nolan could've seen this coming. Aside from the TDK trilogy, none of the other superhero movies really worked. Both SR and GL were supposed to get a sequel but due to their respective movies' disappointing BO, WB cancelled those projects. WB has always been proud in letting the world know that they don't handicap the creativity of their directors, but without oversight the quality fluctuates and hard to maintain. Martin Campbell, who directed Goldeneye and Casino Royale, was also responsible for Green Lantern.
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So true, Marvel might get flak for their micromanaging but I think it's for the better, that way an a quality movie is mostly guaranteed, even if they hire unproven directors (Jon Watts, Russos before TWS)
idk if i should be sad or laugh...
Sad because SM3 had a better worldwide sales and reception.
It's been said before but it's worth repeating: WB needs to find a Feige for the DCEU. Marvel has basically treated the MCU like an ongoing TV series and Feige is the showrunner. I don't think you can successfully do an interconnected universe without someone of quality calling the shots.