BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 1

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I thought about BvS after looking at Furious 7's early numbers. 130-140million is huge and it's especially huge for April.

Idiots who were questioning WB's decision just continue to look stupid. Alice in Wonderland, The Hunger Games, Fast Five, Captain America and now Furious 7 didn't need a summer release date to pull in the cash. March and April are not dumping grounds for anticipated blockbusters. I've said it before and I'll say it again, BvS's release date is smart scheduling by Warner Brothers.
 
In an age where you can open big mostly anywhere as along as you have a big movie, the new game is that of legs. Cameron figured out the leg game long ago and various studios strike gold here and there seemingly almost by accident. Like depending on if a may is going to be full of bombs or not being a game of luck ala 2012.

The big opening is guaranteed imo, having clear weekends ahead is the key to really taking it all home and I think WB picked a great spot for that this time.

I do think it kinda stinks that the year of wb's most significant cbm release happens to be during the same year everyone else up and decided to go crazy with big significant cbms. I think even Deadpool is that spring. Batman get's a second go at going head to head with avengers only this time he doesn't have to go it alone.

Stealing the buzz for a year does wonders for a films..'buzz'. 2016 including starwars is going to be a tough one. 2014 would have been alot easier.
 
Deadpool is not going to be competition at all in the buzz department and box office wise, it's an internet famous character that will be lucky to crack 100 million domestically. Fox can't even get their star studded X-Men sequel to 250 million. I'm not worried about any other buzzed about film not named Civil War.
 
In an age where you can open big mostly anywhere as along as you have a big movie, the new game is that of legs. Cameron figured out the leg game long ago and various studios strike gold here and there seemingly almost by accident. Like depending on if a may is going to be full of bombs or not being a game of luck ala 2012.

The big opening is guaranteed imo, having clear weekends ahead is the key to really taking it all home and I think WB picked a great spot for that this time.

I do think it kinda stinks that the year of wb's most significant cbm release happens to be during the same year everyone else up and decided to go crazy with big significant cbms. I think even Deadpool is that spring. Batman get's a second go at going head to head with avengers only this time he doesn't have to go it alone.

Stealing the buzz for a year does wonders for a films..'buzz'. 2016 including starwars is going to be a tough one. 2014 would have been alot easier.

Well, 50 Shades came in with bigger buzz and press coverage on the same weekend as Deadpool this year, didn't exactly matter to the buzz around Furious 7. Marketing teams know when to exactly build up to release. I think around the start of March, we will see WB basically carpet bombing us with promos leading up to release.

I do actually think that WB will shell out for a Superbowl spot next year, as well as spots during March madness.
 
50 shades wasn't exactly hanging around the way GotG was during it's tenure. My point was very much about the worst case scenario happening sort of deal.

Deadpool is not going to be competition at all in the buzz department and box office wise, it's an internet famous character that will be lucky to crack 100 million domestically. Fox can't even get their star studded X-Men sequel to 250 million. I'm not worried about any other buzzed about film not named Civil War.

For an R movie it might do well if it's good(and connected) given it's date. Lack of competition is when R films really shine(see Sniper). For the most part it's only R comedies that make studios serious money these days and that movie looks like it's taking the best of both worlds. As for buzz(which is primarily what I'm talking about), something about this film is getting all sorts of internet buzz lately. I'm seeing this costume pic getting raves, I'm seeing this R rating announcement get buzz, I'm seeing the film actually pop up number one on some top ten 2016 antip lists. My pals didn't even know about the character a few months ago now it's as if he's an A lister...
And all of this over another Reynolds cbm based off of a origins character no less, who knew. Strange things. If that film was directed by Vaughn, it would be a clear contender imo.

However my point isn't really a matter of if it makes $$ or if it's box office competition. It was more about the buzz of being the talked about darling of the year. Being such a thing actually helps your film in the moment. In the way no avengers would have helped TDKR be the movie that year, and being the movie of the year means things in the moment and after. Or the way no Heath would have helped IM or how 2007 could have been TF's year had it not been for that May, or how 2014 could have gone to the 3 other films competing for the film of the year save for GotG. Every outlet talking about your film and getting interest whether during the moment or even after the fact. It helps when you open early in the year but still...

Anyways, I think there are 8 or something cbms next year including the big Xmen finale and start up and the Tatum vehicle as well as the other DC movie. Poor TWS had some of it's movie of the year thunder stolen by another in house project...same could happen here. Take all of that and imagine BvS as is, was the only release in the early to cbm year of 2001. It just helps is what I'm getting at. To be in a year with 5 other movies of the year vs to simply be the one Jurassic Park etc.

I'm certain Avengers 2 is enjoying it's circumstance thanks in part to the WB move.
 
50 shades wasn't exactly hanging around the way GotG was during it's tenure. My point was very much about the worst case scenario happening sort of deal.



For an R movie it might do well if it's good(and connected) given it's date. Lack of competition is when R films really shine(see Sniper). For the most part it's only R comedies that make studios serious money these days and that movie looks like it's taking the best of both worlds. As for buzz(which is primarily what I'm talking about), something about this film is getting all sorts of internet buzz lately. I'm seeing this costume pic getting raves, I'm seeing this R rating announcement get buzz, I'm seeing the film actually pop up number one on some top ten 2016 antip lists. My pals didn't even know about the character a few months ago now it's as if he's an A lister...
And all of this over another Reynolds cbm based off of a origins character no less, who knew. Strange things. If that film was directed by Vaughn, it would be a clear contender imo.

However my point isn't really a matter of if it makes $$ or if it's box office competition. It was more about the buzz of being the talked about darling of the year. Being such a thing actually helps your film in the moment. In the way no avengers would have helped TDKR be the movie that year, and being the movie of the year means things in the moment and after. Or the way no Heath would have helped IM or how 2007 could have been TF's year had it not been for that May, or how 2014 could have gone to the 3 other films competing for the film of the year save for GotG. Every outlet talking about your film and getting interest whether during the moment or even after the fact. It helps when you open early in the year but still...

Anyways, I think there are 8 or something cbms next year including the big Xmen finale and start up and the Tatum vehicle as well as the other DC movie. Poor TWS had some of it's movie of the year thunder stolen by another in house project...same could happen here. Take all of that and imagine BvS as is, was the only release in the early to cbm year of 2001. It just helps is what I'm getting at. To be in a year with 5 other movies of the year vs to simply be the one Jurassic Park etc.

I'm certain Avengers 2 is enjoying it's circumstance thanks in part to the WB move.

But that logic is like saying Furious 7's big opening will affect Avengers. And Deadpool even in ultra best case scenario isn't a 100M opener which will leg it to 400M and stay in the top 5 till BvS.

BvS does not need to stay in the headlines all year, it needs to dominate press in March and open huge and then be a good leggy movie till Civil War.

TDK's huge opening did not affect IM's gross or the bump IM2 got on OW.
 
But that logic is like saying Furious 7's big opening will affect Avengers. And Deadpool even in ultra best case scenario isn't a 100M opener which will leg it to 400M and stay in the top 5 till BvS.

BvS does not need to stay in the headlines all year, it needs to dominate press in March and open huge and then be a good leggy movie till Civil War.

TDK's huge opening did not affect IM's gross or the bump IM2 got on OW.

You're missing my point then, firstly, I'm not saying Furious 7 opening big will affect avengers number outright, I'm saying (to make the point) if Furious 7 opened at 209mill it would affect everything this year due to it being a massive unheard of avengers like event. Before that is misunderstood, I'm not talking about numbers literally bleeding into and affecting other openings or things like that. I'm talking about the levels of boosting that being the only girl talked about at the ball affords you. It helps or it hurts on even a miniscule level.
I'm not talking about deadpool staying at top five till bvs comes out, I'm talking about the simple difference between being the big massive first talked about film of the year(let alone cbm) and being the second one. The difference between being the first big antip movie released that year to a hungry audience starved for a non bomb in a winter season and being a big movie after the second coming of guardians. The measurable difference and nothing more. It exists, it may or may not even be that big a factor but it's there in either case.

As for this discussion about staying in the headlines all year vs just doing so when you are released...I'm pretty sure if BvS was the only event film to come out for the next ten years the point would be all the more clear. I assume you are talking about the box office theatrical run gross of the first month or so, because I'm talking about the mechanism that get's people to want to watch something in the dollar theaters, on dvd or the following year. "Being the most talked about movie of that year" and how that not only helps you for the next 10 months but how it also hurts your competition seeing as how they would have gotten more shine and spotlight had you not existed at all. This very year Avengers 2 benefits from not having a BvS event happen in march but rather get's to be the big event of the year leading in and out of it's theatrical run. It being touted as the only cbm game in town this year is already doing wonders for it.

Being titled the sequel to the only movie people can remember from the prior year goes along way to selling said sequel. Again the GotG example, it's sequel will possibly feel like the sequel to the biggest movie of 2014(though it wasn't).
As for how TDK affected the buzz of the IM films...I'd say they would have been bigger had the TDKT not existed. Just like how if MOS was the only cbm movie on the landscape right now it would no doubt be bigger. This is part of the advantage the Raimi spidey series had compared to releasing such things during this current landscape.

I'm mainly talking about the things that can affect your buzz and what buzz can in turn affect. Being the only one, has a different result than being 1 of 20, especially in the long game and into sequel marketing. Imagine if you will a world in which only one blockbuster was released every year. Safe to assume that film would get more buzz than in than in the current system no? Measuring such things is what I'm talking about and I said if Deadpool becomes some massive pop culture hit(I've seen longer shots do just as much) than it's something. Not saying it will happen, saying it could.

Being the 'only one' helped Sapranos in a way being a dope provocative cable show in todays landscape is a little more grueling, if anything you have to do more to stand out, rather generate buzz. And I'm not talking about fighting for ratings because two shows are on at the same time of day.
 
You're missing my point then, firstly, I'm not saying Furious 7 opening big will affect avengers number outright, I'm saying (to make the point) if Furious 7 opened at 209mill it would affect everything this year due to it being a massive unheard of avengers like event. Before that is misunderstood, I'm not talking about numbers literally bleeding into and affecting other openings or things like that. I'm talking about the levels of boosting that being the only girl talked about at the ball affords you. It helps or it hurts on even a miniscule level.
I'm not talking about deadpool staying at top five till bvs comes out, I'm talking about the simple difference between being the big massive first talked about film of the year(let alone cbm) and being the second one. The difference between being the first big antip movie released that year to a hungry audience starved for a non bomb in a winter season and being a big movie after the second coming of guardians. The measurable difference and nothing more. It exists, it may or may not even be that big a factor but it's there in either case.

As for this discussion about staying in the headlines all year vs just doing so when you are released...I'm pretty sure if BvS was the only event film to come out for the next ten years the point would be all the more clear. I assume you are talking about the box office theatrical run gross of the first month or so, because I'm talking about the mechanism that get's people to want to watch something in the dollar theaters, on dvd or the following year. "Being the most talked about movie of that year" and how that not only helps you for the next 10 months but how it also hurts your competition seeing as how they would have gotten more shine and spotlight had you not existed at all. This very year Avengers 2 benefits from not having a BvS event happen in march but rather get's to be the big event of the year leading in and out of it's theatrical run. It being touted as the only cbm game in town this year is already doing wonders for it.

Being titled the sequel to the only movie people can remember from the prior year goes along way to selling said sequel. Again the GotG example, it's sequel will possibly feel like the sequel to the biggest movie of 2014(though it wasn't).
As for how TDK affected the buzz of the IM films...I'd say they would have been bigger had the TDKT not existed. Just like how if MOS was the only cbm movie on the landscape right now it would no doubt be bigger. This is part of the advantage the Raimi spidey series had compared to releasing such things during this current landscape.

I'm mainly talking about the things that can affect your buzz and what buzz can in turn affect. Being the only one, has a different result than being 1 of 20, especially in the long game and into sequel marketing. Imagine if you will a world in which only one blockbuster was released every year. Safe to assume that film would get more buzz than in than in the current system no? Measuring such things is what I'm talking about and I said if Deadpool becomes some massive pop culture hit(I've seen longer shots do just as much) than it's something. Not saying it will happen, saying it could.

Being the 'only one' helped Sapranos in a way being a dope provocative cable show in todays landscape is a little more grueling, if anything you have to do more to stand out, rather generate buzz. And I'm not talking about fighting for ratings because two shows are on at the same time of day.

Fair enough, but there is no "only one" in today's tentpole culture. Even Avengers will not be the big event for the year actually, that will be Star Wars.
 
Fair enough, but there is no "only one" in today's tentpole culture. Even Avengers will not be the big event for the year actually, that will be Star Wars.

I get that, however I was talking about measures of degrees. The closer you get to only one status the better and 2016 is as far away from that as I've ever seen.
WB's luck I suppose.

Funny enough Starwars is seemingly closer to BvS than it is to Avengers2.
Hopefully the audience doesn't see it that way.
 
All this competition can only be good for the consumer as it forces these companies to step up their game. When the "enemy" is outputting at a faster rate and/or attracting more favorable attention, you have to adapt or risk getting trampled.

Tough stuff for all the suits who's salary and jobs are on the line, but no skin off our backs. We've no reason to support them other than with our wallets.

Success is harder to attain in the years going forward? Good. Then the creatives and producers of said film have all the more reason to excel and triumph those obstacles.
 
Fast 7 is looking like 150 mil opening easter weekend, basically guarantees a billion.

Wonder what Batman & Superman can conjure up
 
Fast 7 is looking like 150 mil opening easter weekend, basically guarantees a billion.

Wonder what Batman & Superman can conjure up

That depends on if Monsters U and WWZ open up next week and Despicable Me a few weeks after. On both counts:yay:
 
i swear Disney's out there to sabotage Warner Bro's sometimes :p
 
Deadpool is not going to be competition at all in the buzz department and box office wise, it's an internet famous character that will be lucky to crack 100 million domestically. Fox can't even get their star studded X-Men sequel to 250 million. I'm not worried about any other buzzed about film not named Civil War.

I disagree. I think Deadpool will make around $500 million worldwide.
 
I disagree. I think Deadpool will make around $500 million worldwide.

Umm, yeah, no. Thats like saying BvS will make around $3 billion WW.

Deadpool will follow the BO fate of Dredd. You heard it here first kiddos. :sly:
 
No one ever predicts R-rated successes because their potential to reach mass audiences is limited from the get-go. It's only after the fact where people conjure up dozens of reasons why it made so much bank.

A small take would be the safe bet, but history has shown a few will rise to the occasion. I'm still in awe at American Sniper's performance.
 
I'll reserve my prediction for Deadpool after the second official trailer, same as what I'm doing for BvS.
 
i swear Disney's out there to sabotage Warner Bro's sometimes :p

The reason Warcraft is now in BvS' radius is because of Disney
They probably got a kick out of that one in the board room.
 
Deadpool is unknown to the general populace. Best case ( being generous here ) is 140/150 mill dom, 250/300 WW.
If he is a hit then a sequel will happen. thats where your money is.

BvS is in an entire different class. It will make at least 750/800 mill WW ( worse case ), and thats before we see anything ( other than the con footage )

If its as good as we all hope it is, a billion is in the bag. Again, thats an IF.
 
Fast 7 is looking like 150 mil opening easter weekend, basically guarantees a billion.

Wonder what Batman & Superman can conjure up

If furious 7 can rake in 150+ I'm confident BVS will have a190-200+ opening weekend:drl:
 
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