BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 2

[DarthSkywalker]

Well to be fair, Daredevil can be watched anytime. Mayweather/Pacman was live.

It was live and replayed all weekend. Plus, DVRs. Instance gratification is a real thing.

 

[Kanye West]

BvS not doing well is bad for marvel too.

 

[Marvin]

At the end of the day, it ain't going to matter much. It isn't like Daredevil is going to disappear if you go see BvS instead, and vice versa.

Technically it would matter for the press/wom cycle.
SW dominated such this these past weeks and it benefited from it. Now imagine the GOT and Breaking Bad finale and James Cameron heart attack and Michael Jackson back from the dead etc...were competing for buzz time, especially with the same audience. Clear skies are always better(unless it's part of your shared universe of course).

I doubt it would happen and if it did I doubt it could cause all that much trouble but it would be funny if did. DCeu already has their big coming out year stiffed by stuff. Everyone is supposed to benefit from success so I'd be curious the reasoning(Again if it happened to begin with).

 

[DarthSkywalker]

BvS not doing well is bad for marvel too.

It what way? The genre argument is off base. If people are show apathy for Marvel, it is a Marvel problem, but not a Superhero film problem. It is like Star Wars or Batman. No matter how the genre is going, these big brands make their own path.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Technically it would matter for the press/wom cycle.
SW dominated such this these past weeks and it benefited from it. Now imagine the GOT and Breaking Bad finale and James Cameron heart attack and Michael Jackson back from the dead etc...were competing for buzz time, especially with the same audience. Clear skies are always better(unless it's part of your shared universe of course).

I doubt it would happen and if it did I doubt it could cause all that much trouble but it would be funny if did. DCeu already has their big coming out year stiffed by stuff. Everyone is supposed to benefit from success so I'd be curious the reasoning(Again if it happened to begin with).

I don't think it is going to happen, but if it does, I think it would be extremely fascinating. Netflix has become such a cultural cornerstone over a short period of time. It is arguably more relevant then the majority of blockbuster releases.

 

[Black Narcissus]

lol

It won't do jack to the BO.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Watch wb release a Bat solo against Captain Marvel or BP now. smh.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

lol

It won't do jack to the BO.

The box office expert that is Sam Jackson.

 

[Black Narcissus]

The box office expert that is Sam Jackson.

I ain't trusting you.

 

[fake]

It most certainly matters, the same way the Mayweather/Pacman fight mattered for AoU.

May/Pac was literally a once in a lifetime event where fans had to make time at a given time or miss out on it. With DD S2, fans who will binge it starting midnight are the same ones who will most likely watch BvS at 7pm or so. For everyone else, setting aside 3 hours at some point during the weekend is not hard, a lot of binge watchers don't exactly watch more than 1-2 episodes at a time anyway.

Also, we have literally no idea how many people watch DD, Netflix never releases viewership numbers whereas May/Pac was watched by over 50M people in the US at literally the same exact time. Those are 2 completely different things. I would wager that DD S2 might affect BvS somewhere between jack-squat and literally nothing. It misses the "must watch it live at this very instant" buzz.

I was on the Box office forums on AOU OW, before May/Pac AOU was tracking to a 62-65M Saturday which then became a 57M Saturday, so even with the large viewership, it affected the OW by 8M at the very max i.e. less than 5%. Also, the lost viewers were regained on Sunday when AOU only fell 10% as opposed to a 30% fall which is normal.

The only good thing for both BvS and DD S2 is that they will both get a lot of free press for this in the media for some time.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I ain't trusting you.

That is probably a good decision.

 

[Black Narcissus]

May/Pac was 10years in the making. I love DD, but come on.

 

[jokesonm3]

DDS2 won't harm it whatsoever if these claims are true, it's not live, and it can be viewed anytime.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

May/Pac was literally a once in a lifetime event where fans had to make time at a given time or miss out on it. With DD S2, fans who will binge it starting midnight are the same ones who will most likely watch BvS at 7pm or so. For everyone else, setting aside 3 hours at some point during the weekend is not hard, a lot of binge watchers don't exactly watch more than 1-2 episodes at a time anyway.

Also, we have literally no idea how many people watch DD, Netflix never releases viewership numbers whereas May/Pac was watched by over 50M people in the US at literally the same exact time. Those are 2 completely different things. I would wager that DD S2 might affect BvS somewhere between jack-squat and literally nothing. It misses the "must watch it live at this very instant" buzz.

I was on the Box office forums on AOU OW, before May/Pac AOU was tracking to a 62-65M Saturday which then became a 57M Saturday, so even with the large viewership, it affected the OW by 8M at the very max i.e. less than 5%. Also, the lost viewers were regained on Sunday when AOU only fell 10% as opposed to a 30% fall which is normal.

The only good thing for both BvS and DD S2 is that they will both get a lot of free press for this in the media for some time.

As a big boxing fan, Floyd/Manny wasn't a once in a lifetime event. This is like the 5th time this has happened over the last 20 years. One of the three biggest events in boxing history, but this is not unheard of. AoU as a whole came in soft that weekend. Incredible number, but far below expectation. These kind of situation are seen in drops between days and weekends. It is not just that one specific night that is effected.

It is about personal priorities. Why are we assume BvS is must see for so many people? It is for me, it is for you, but that isn't the same for everyone. More importantly it is hitting in March. It is a holiday weekend I believe, but it is still in the middle of the year. What do you do with your free time, what do you prefer. You aren't going to release a big film on Super Bowl Sunday.

I don't think this will happen, but if it does, it will have some effect. It would also be clearly intentional on Netflix and Disney's part.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Some of this is becoming ludicrous. Some folks talking about DD taking 30-40m from the BO.

Ha.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

May/Pac was 10years in the making. I love DD, but come on.

More like 5. Pacquaio fighting Floyd wasn't a thing until 2010. I am not saying it would be the same effect, I doubt it. But then you are now talking about the whole Marvel v. DC thing again.

 

[jokesonm3]

How were believing this rumor in the first place is beyond me, a fan website, with less credibility than El Maybe and Faraci themselves are claiming it, and were eating it all up.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

DDS2 won't harm it whatsoever if these claims are true, it's not live, and it can be viewed anytime.

Nothing is live anymore. I don't even know what this means. Like do you suddenly think people aren't going to binge watch it? GoT and Walking Dead get great live ratings, and we live in the world of the DVR and ondemand.

Some of this is becoming ludicrous. Some folks talking about DD taking 30-40m from the BO.

Ha.

Who said that?

 

[Black Narcissus]

As a big boxing fan, Floyd/Manny wasn't a once in a lifetime event. This is like the 5th time this has happened over the last 20 years. One of the three biggest events in boxing history, but this is not unheard of. AoU as a whole came in soft that weekend. Incredible number, but far below expectation. These kind of situation are seen in drops between days and weekends. It is not just that one specific night that is effected.

It is about personal priorities. Why are we assume BvS is must see for so many people? It is for me, it is for you, but that isn't the same for everyone. More importantly it is hitting in March. It is a holiday weekend I believe, but it is still in the middle of the year. What do you do with your free time, what do you prefer. You aren't going to release a big film on Super Bowl Sunday.

I don't think this will happen, but if it does, it will have some effect. It would also be clearly intentional on Netflix and Disney's part.

This could also come back to bite them.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

How were believing this rumor in the first place is beyond me, a fan website, with less credibility than El Maybe and Faraci themselves are claiming it, and were eating it all up.

Are you reading what I am writing? Because I said I don't believe it will happen, but if it does it will have some sort of effect and that it would obviously be on purpose. The only reason I think this could be a real thing is Netflix has been getting a bit chesty about GoT and HBO.

 

[fake]

As a big boxing fan, Floyd/Manny wasn't a once in a lifetime event. This is like the 5th time this has happened over the last 20 years. One of the three biggest events in boxing history, but this is not unheard of. AoU as a whole came in soft that weekend. Incredible number, but far below expectation. These kind of situation are seen in drops between days and weekends. It is not just that one specific night that is effected.

It is about personal priorities. Why are we assume BvS is must see for so many people? It is for me, it is for you, but that isn't the same for everyone. More importantly it is hitting in March. It is a holiday weekend I believe, but it is still in the middle of the year. What do you do with your free time, what do you prefer. You aren't going to release a big film on Super Bowl Sunday.

I don't think this will happen, but if it does, it will have some effect. It would also be clearly intentional on Netflix and Disney's part.

No one is assuming BvS is a must see for people, your assumption is that DD is a must see for people. Now that may be true, but the same people for whom DD is a must see are literally the same people who would rush out to watch BvS. May/Pac was a major event, it set the record for PPV buys by a large large margin and got casual fans to check out boxing (which they were treated to a horrible fight). DD S2 is nowhere even close to the same level, especially since people can watch it at any time over literally the rest of the year if they want.

Rth was providing updates on AOU all weekend in May, it started off strong on Saturday and then literally died when the pre-fight stuff began. BvS is releasing on the same weekend as THG and the same holiday as Furious 7 i.e. the Easter weekend. Friday numbers are boosted at that time.

I am confident in saying DD S2 will have literally no impact, the people who would binge it are the exact same people who would go out and watch BvS.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This could also come back to bite them.

No doubt, which is why I doubt this will happen. It is not really important for Disney. Though I think this would be a Netflix decision.

 

[jokesonm3]

Well i hope it ain't real, it'll just be a stupid move that hurts the early views of Daredevil up all to attempt to sabotage BvS.

It's like Disney kamikazing DC'S ship with Daredevil piloting it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No one is assuming BvS is a must see for people, your assumption is that DD is a must see for people. Now that may be true, but the same people for whom DD is a must see are literally the same people who would rush out to watch BvS.

Rth was providing updates on AOU all weekend in May, it started off strong on Saturday and then literally died when the pre-fight stuff began. BvS is releasing on the same weekend as THG and the same holiday as Furious 7 i.e. the Easter weekend. Friday numbers are boosted at that time.

I am confident in saying DD S2 will have literally no impact, the people who would binge it are the exact same people who would go out and watch BvS.

It is must see for their fans. BvS is must see for the fans of DC and the characters. It is the same for Marvel and Daredevil. You bring up Hunger Games and F7, but they have different audiences, especially the former.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Nothing is live anymore. I don't even know what this means. Like do you suddenly think people aren't going to binge watch it? GoT and Walking Dead get great live ratings, and we live in the world of the DVR and ondemand.


Who said that?

So what exactly are you saying tho? DD won't take away BvS #1 BO spot that weekend regardless