BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 8

[def28]

If it holds that 73% RT audience score through the month that won't be that bad considering everything else.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

The obvious point is it's way too early to be talking about audience scores. Patience.

 

[marieylee]

Posted this the other day.

The screen shot was posted March 24, 1am, so basically Thursday morning...before the actual release.


I saw a screenshot on Campea's FB showing audience score at 81% with 122,524 votes.

It's currently at 73% with 155,243 votes.

Doing some quick math, you have 32,719 votes since then. Roughly only 14,100 of those votes were positive, meaning only 43% liked it. Eeek.

 

[kalhawj]

DCU might not be DOA but it most definetly has an uphill climb.

Agreed. They need to make this movie critic proof and appeal to all fans, age included. I hate to say this but mirror the The Avenger in movie regards to tone, follow by with amazing action sequence, with some fun humor in the movie. I expect Flash to pull this off.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

What reports?

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=33296143&postcount=758

 

[Tymminator]

I don't think the DCEU is DOA, Suicide Squad can also help if it's a hit.

 

[Tony Stark]

There is a lot of hatred for this movie. I love the film but accepted that's the way it is.

It's just odd/amusing though that BvS has a 73% RT audience score, while Captain America has a 74%, Iron Man 2 72% and Incredible Hulk has 71% yet this is the one that gets completely ripped to shreds as if Snyder murdered someone's pets. Very strange.

You can use that as a gauge. There was someone that mentioned that before the film was released, there were people creating fake accounts that were giving the film a 5 star rating.

Cinemascore isn't perfect but comparing to similar films in the genre BvS is among the worst. Man of Steel got an A- and this film gets a B. When the surveys went out it was among the same audience demographic. It's pretty clear that alot of people have issues with this film.

 

[The Joker]

If it holds that 73% RT audience score through the month that won't be that bad considering everything else.

Technically it should be lower than that since it opened with a hundred and eighteen thousand votes already on it a full 2 days before the movie even opened worldwide. People voting without having even seen it.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Agreed. They need to make this movie critic proof and appeal to all fans, age included. I hate to say this but mirror the The Avenger in movie regards to tone, follow by with amazing action sequence, with some fun humor in the movie. I expect Flash to pull this off.

Does this mean one of the JL members gets to make a joke about raping women as Tony did in AoU? I guess it works though since it's a fun movie.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Lashing out won't make it hurt any less.

 

[Spiderdevil]

What reports?

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (蝙蝠侠大战超人：正义黎&#26126 debuted in China with a coveted Friday day-and-date with the US, earning RMB 129 million ($19.8 million) including RMB 8.8 million ($1.35 million) from Thursday midnight screenings.

Notably, its opening day was the sixth biggest ever for a Hollywood import, and after the late-night Thursday showings its online user rating on cultural website Douban soared to 8.1/10, likey fueled by initial fanboy reaction.

However, as a broader class of Chinese moviegoers took to the cinemas over the weekend, that score tumbled to 6.7/10 Saturday saw a measly 13% increase in ticket sales to RMB 145 million ($22.3 million). In comparison, Spectre — which was widely shunned by Chinese audiences following its $49 million debut in November — had a 30% bump on its first Saturday.

Things will only get worse for what was supposed to be a gangbusters kickoff to Warner Bros.’ challenge to Disney’s wildly successful Marvel Cinematic Universe. Sunday saw a steep 33% drop at the box office, giving Batman v Superman RMB 372 million ($57.1 million) for the three-day weekend, according to initial reported figures, a bit below analyst expectations of $70-$80 million.

Weekday drops will continue to hit the film hard, and increased competition from local films opening for the Tomb Sweeping Holiday next Friday are likely to see its box office receipts drop by a precipitous 80% or more in its second weekend. In the end, Batman v Superman’s box office receipts will likely crawl just over the $100 million threshold, far below initial predictions of $150-$230 million.

http://chinafilminsider.com/china-box-office-batman-v-superman-fails-pack-punch/

 

[Tony Stark]

I don't think the DCEU is DOA, Suicide Squad can also help if it's a hit.

Talk of the DCEU being dead is hyperbole. They have investors to report to, if they announced they were stopping production on all of that their stock would tank.

One of the reasons they are being so aggressive with this, is it's the one franchise they have complete control over. Their deal with Fantastic Beasts and the Potter Universe is controlled exclusively through J.K. Rowling. They can't just go out and produce more Potter films unless she gives the final OK.

They are going to proceed, but Snyder's involvement and the schedule are still very much in question.

 

[Tymminator]

Talk of the DCEU being dead is hyperbole. They have investors to report to, if they announced they were stopping production on all of that their stock would tank.

One of the reasons they are being so aggressive with this, is it's the one franchise they have complete control over. Their deal with Fantastic Beasts and the Potter Universe is controlled exclusively through J.K. Rowling. They can't just go out and produce more Potter films unless she gives the final OK.

They are going to proceed, but Snyder's involvement and the schedule are still very much in question.

I agree.

 

[Marvel Knight]

They are going to proceed, but Snyder's involvement and the schedule are still very much in question.

Sadly, Snyder isn't the only problem. There are obviously major internal problems at WB with the people overseeing this stuff for the film to turn out this bad.

This almost sounds like a Sony-esque situation.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Does anyone know how that 2.01 internal multiplier compares to other films in the genre over the first weekend? How far off is it from MoS for example?

 

[JOE]

Technically it should be lower than that since it opened with a hundred and eighteen thousand votes already on it a full 2 days before the movie even opened worldwide. People voting without having even seen it.

Hence why the audience score is bull***t lol.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Sadly, Snyder isn't the only problem. There are obviously major internal problems at WB with the people overseeing this stuff for the film to turn out this bad.

This almost sounds like a Sony-esque situation.

It was different for Sony

TASM was actually a decent movie, TASM 2 was bad but it had a host of problems, the director wasn't upto the mark, too much universe building stuff, bad writers etc, so it was difficult for them to pin point one thing and rectify, fans in the end just started blaming Avi Arad without a shred of evidence implicating him in the mess

For BvS it is simple, as it was for MOS, the production money is there, the writers are there, the cast is there. Just get a better director

 

[CaptainWagner]

TASM2 was a mess because of studio interference. BvS, while I liked it, had its share of problems, and they all seemed to stem from one place: The Director's Chair.

 

[Tony Stark]

Does anyone know how that 2.01 internal multiplier compares to other films in the genre over the first weekend? How far off is it from MoS for example?

Easter is always soft for the weekend, but for comparison Furious 7 which also was on Easter weekend had a 2.2 multiplier.

MoS is a little different because it had those Walmart previews, where Walmart bought a bunch of presold seats which acounted for about 12M in ticket sales.

So the official multiplier for MoS (not including the Walmart previews) was 2.6, with the Walmart previews it was 2.28.

But MoS also had fathers day weekend which boosted it's Sunday numbers where Easter Sunday would have hurt this film.

 

[samsnee]

Conversely, lots of folks voted it a 1 as well. So what's your point?

It's not fair, but I think people are just sick of DC trying to take what works for Batman (dark, "grounded") and trying to apply it to all their other characters. That's where the hate comes from.

 

[Sithborg]

Does anyone know how that 2.01 internal multiplier compares to other films in the genre over the first weekend? How far off is it from MoS for example?

MOS: 2.6 (though the Thursday numbers seem to throw it off a bit)
Iron Man 2: 2.5
ASM 2: 2.6
X3: 2.2
X-men Origins: 2.5

Furious 7: 2.1

It may be a bit too early to declare it was WOM, it may have just been the Easter Weekend. I know Sunday was a beautiful day for me.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Another thing that I hope DC realizes is that name recognition of their characters means very little in today's movie landscape. We are now living in a world where Iron Man is a bigger draw than Batman and Superman combined.

Their mistake was relying on their laurels and thinking the GA will just be happy to see batman and superman on screen together for the first time. That's not enough anymore, the movie has to deliver or the audience will reject it.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Easter is always soft for the weekend, but for comparison Furious 7 which also was on Easter weekend had a 2.2 multiplier.

MoS is a little different because it had those Walmart previews, where Walmart bought a bunch of presold seats which acounted for about 12M in ticket sales.

So the official multiplier for MoS (not including the Walmart previews) was 2.6, with the Walmart previews it was 2.28.

But MoS also had fathers day weekend which boosted it's Sunday numbers where Easter Sunday would have hurt this film.

MOS: 2.6 (though the Thursday numbers seem to throw it off a bit)
Iron Man 2: 2.5
ASM 2: 2.6
X3: 2.2
X-men Origins: 2.5

Furious 7: 2.1

It may be a bit too early to declare it was WOM, it may have just been the Easter Weekend. I know Sunday was a beautiful day for me.

Thanks guys.

 

[Mjölnir]

It's at 73% now, that's all I know, are we going to start putting conditions now on anything remotely positive for this movie? So it's at 73% but that doesn't really count because.... Why would it, it puts it in a semi decent light.

I though I was clear that it goes for all big fanboy franchises. Don't just believe the Civil War audience scores when that comes out either, although now that you're aware of it you can actually go and look if there's the same number of dumb fans that go and vote for the movie obviously without even having seen it.

It has nothing to do with not being able to say anything positive about BvS. It's a fact that all those votes were in before it was released. You can't disregard something like that since it's dishonest.

 

[Tony Stark]

This is a bit like politics the way these studios spin things, but the way that Warner's played the embargo tells you everything you need to know about what they thought of the film. You don't go have a special fan screening and then tell all those people to go out and tweet about it, while embargoing the reviewers if you have confidence in the film.