Ben Affleck IS Bruce Wayne/Batman - Part 3

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

So you haven't grabbed a strangers butt before ever? I assumed this is like *********ing and we've all done it.

I don’t think this post went the way you thought it would.

 

[Paradox1]

No, no I haven't. Why would I do that? I have respect for other people. I don't sexually assault people.

First I don't believe grabbing someone's butt meets the legal requirement for sexual assault. I looked up the definition at the US department of Justice and it makes it clear what that is. In general it says any unwanted touching but there is always fine print. That fine print makes it clear to me outside of that TRL interview no such sexual assault took place. Maybe there is some legal precedent out there but my search found no such results. So let's stop with such provocative language.

 

[TheVileOne]

For all the DCEU and Ben/Bat fans. His return as Batman after Justice League is pretty much the least of his worries right now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm not condoning Ben's behavior, but it's crazy to me that the media is making such a huge deal about this while Hollywood still loves the likes of Roman Polanski and Woody Allen.

It has been a while since I read up on either situation. Allen I remember being somewhat murky. Polanski, not so much. I get the feeling we are going to start getting a lot of the, "I didn't fully grasp situation" comments when it comes to one or both men soon though.

 

[C. Lee]

So you haven't grabbed a strangers butt before ever? I assumed this is like *********ing and we've all done it.

No.....I am 60 years old....and in all of that time I have never sexually assaulted anyone (male or female).....it's really sad to hear that you think sexual assault is OK....I hope you check into various ways to get therapy for that in your area.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

First I don't believe grabbing someone's butt meets the legal requirement for sexual assault. I looked up the definition at the US department of Justice and it makes it clear what that is. In general it says any unwanted touching but there is always fine print. That fine print makes it clear to me outside of that TRL interview no such sexual assault took place. Maybe there is some legal precedent out there but my search found no such results. So let's stop with such provocative language.

I am curious, why do you not consider it sexual assault?

 

[danoyse]

First I don't believe grabbing someone's butt meets the legal requirement for sexual assault. I looked up the definition at the US department of Justice and it makes it clear what that is. In general it says any unwanted touching but there is always fine print. That fine print makes it clear to me outside of that TRL interview no such sexual assault took place. Maybe there is some legal precedent out there but my search found no such results. So let's stop with such provocative language.

You really need to stop talking....

 

[MrGamer2558]

First I don't believe grabbing someone's butt meets the legal requirement for sexual assault. I looked up the definition at the US department of Justice and it makes it clear what that is. In general it says any unwanted touching but there is always fine print. That fine print makes it clear to me outside of that TRL interview no such sexual assault took place. Maybe there is some legal precedent out there but my search found no such results. So let's stop with such provocative language.

Dude, you gotta stop.

 

[C. Lee]

Paradox1, you really need to pay heed to this -

You really need to stop talking....

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So yeah. That happened.

 

[Lighthouse]

I think they should cast Christian Bale for Batman: Intimidation Game.

 

[Lighthouse]

Ooops. Sorry, wrong year.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

No.....I am 60 years old....and in all of that time I have never sexually assaulted anyone (male or female).....it's really sad to hear that you think sexual assault is OK....I hope you check into various ways to get therapy for that in your area.

Very well said.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I'm all for that law. I wish it was all over the world.

So do you all think Ben won't be making the rounds for marketing?

 

[brandeezy89]

I'm all for that law. I wish it was all over the world.

So do you all think Ben won't be making the rounds for marketing?

He won't, they'll probably get more actors like Jeremy Irons and Amy Adams to fill in

 

[Micromind]

He won't, they'll probably get more actors like Jeremy Irons and Amy Adams to fill in

I think most actors would not be looking forward to doing press promotions for this movie now.

 

[Micromind]

It's actually not easy to convict someone on sexual assault cases, given the he said she said nature and lack of supporting evidence in most scenarios.

Conviction in a court of Law ? Who needs that nowadays, people trust media reports. Perception is everything.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

He won't, they'll probably get more actors like Jeremy Irons and Amy Adams to fill in

I hope not... Ben is BATMAN!

 

[PacificBoy]

Conviction in a court of Law ? Who needs that nowadays, people trust media reports. Perception is everything.

Well, it has always swung both ways. Media perception has aided the likes of Harvey Weinstein before. Now it's swinging hard the opposite direction due to the timing and zeitgeist.

 

[PacificBoy]

I hope not... Ben is BATMAN!

'Ben is Batman!' is probably the one thing WB would want distancing from right now.

 

[Question]

I'm all for that law. I wish it was all over the world.

So do you all think Ben won't be making the rounds for marketing?

I disagree. Telling me that if I don't like my aunt pinching my cheek she can go to prison and register for life?

What Ben is accused of doing is bad, but that doesn't mean we should be going to extremes like that. In my opinion, the public shame and the disappointment and loss of trust and respect from his fans and admirers is a great punishment if these accusations are told completely true.

Speaking on this kind of bad behavior as a whole, we should focus on letting more people know that sexual misconduct and anything like it is simply unacceptable, making potential victims feel safer about speaking up, and helping wrongdoers realize that what they do is wrong and that they should change it. The fact of the matter is that American culture has supported this kind of questionable and reprehensible behavior for a long time and now's the time to change it. A lot of guys grew up thinking the kind of behavior Ben is accused of is no big deal, and they still are. We can hardly demonize all of them when we've been letting it happen for generations. Let this be a learning experience for our society on the seriousness of these matters and change those kind of fallacies in thought.

Locking up all of the offenders for years and stamping them with a sex offender mark under some kind of blanket punishment is not going to solve anything in my opinion. Especially since the registry itself seems to be remarkably ineffective in stopping these kind of crimes. But if there is punishment, it should be proportional to the crime. Don't punish people who grope the same as people who rape, because they simply aren't the same.

Not saying all of those kinds of criminals should get away with a slap on the wrist, but understanding should be shown both for victims to be heard and helped to heal and for offenders so they can potentially be rehabilitated and change.

If these allegations are all true as accused, Ben should apologize with all of his heart and soul and do everything he can to make amends and change his behavior. It'll be up to the alleged victims to forgive him or not.

If it's true, it wouldn't erase all of the good he's done or the art he's made but it would definitely make me deeply disappointed in him and I would want him to do everything he can to change his behavior and make up for it, for the sake of the people he may have hurt and those close to him as well as himself. I'm all for second chances, but he has to be contrite and committed to change.

Sorry for the rant, this whole mess has really been disheartening. Perhaps at the very least, we can have more of a civil discourse and conversation which can bring us to some positive change.

 

[chintai80]

I disagree. Telling me that if I don't like my aunt pinching my cheek she can go to prison and register for life?

What Ben is accused of doing is bad, but that doesn't mean we should be going to extremes like that. In my opinion, the public shame and the disappointment and loss of trust and respect from his fans and admirers is a great punishment if these accusations are told completely true.

Speaking on this kind of bad behavior as a whole, we should focus on letting more people know that sexual misconduct and anything like it is simply unacceptable, making potential victims feel safer about speaking up, and helping wrongdoers realize that what they do is wrong and that they should change it. The fact of the matter is that American culture has supported this kind of questionable and reprehensible behavior for a long time and now's the time to change it. A lot of guys grew up thinking the kind of behavior Ben is accused of is no big deal, and they still are. We can hardly demonize all of them when we've been letting it happen for generations. Let this be a learning experience for our society on the seriousness of these matters and change those kind of fallacies in thought.

Locking up all of the offenders for years and stamping them with a sex offender mark under some kind of blanket punishment is not going to solve anything in my opinion. Especially since the registry itself seems to be remarkably ineffective in stopping these kind of crimes. But if there is punishment, it should be proportional to the crime. Don't punish people who grope the same as people who rape, because they simply aren't the same.

Not saying all of those kinds of criminals should get away with a slap on the wrist, but understanding should be shown both for victims to be heard and helped to heal and for offenders so they can potentially be rehabilitated and change.

If these allegations are all true as accused, Ben should apologize with all of his heart and soul and do everything he can to make amends and change his behavior. It'll be up to the alleged victims to forgive him or not.

If it's true, it wouldn't erase all of the good he's done or the art he's made but it would definitely make me deeply disappointed in him and I would want him to do everything he can to change his behavior and make up for it, for the sake of the people he may have hurt and those close to him as well as himself. I'm all for second chances, but he has to be contrite and committed to change.

Sorry for the rant, this whole mess has really been disheartening. Perhaps at the very least, we can have more of a civil discourse and conversation which can bring us to some positive change.

thank you. so much truth to this.
this is one of the best posts i've seen all day regarding this topic.

 

[HellYeah]

I disagree. Telling me that if I don't like my aunt pinching my cheek she can go to prison and register for life?

What Ben is accused of doing is bad, but that doesn't mean we should be going to extremes like that. In my opinion, the public shame and the disappointment and loss of trust and respect from his fans and admirers is a great punishment if these accusations are told completely true.

Speaking on this kind of bad behavior as a whole, we should focus on letting more people know that sexual misconduct and anything like it is simply unacceptable, making potential victims feel safer about speaking up, and helping wrongdoers realize that what they do is wrong and that they should change it. The fact of the matter is that American culture has supported this kind of questionable and reprehensible behavior for a long time and now's the time to change it. A lot of guys grew up thinking the kind of behavior Ben is accused of is no big deal, and they still are. We can hardly demonize all of them when we've been letting it happen for generations. Let this be a learning experience for our society on the seriousness of these matters and change those kind of fallacies in thought.

Locking up all of the offenders for years and stamping them with a sex offender mark under some kind of blanket punishment is not going to solve anything in my opinion. Especially since the registry itself seems to be remarkably ineffective in stopping these kind of crimes. But if there is punishment, it should be proportional to the crime. Don't punish people who grope the same as people who rape, because they simply aren't the same.

Not saying all of those kinds of criminals should get away with a slap on the wrist, but understanding should be shown both for victims to be heard and helped to heal and for offenders so they can potentially be rehabilitated and change.

If these allegations are all true as accused, Ben should apologize with all of his heart and soul and do everything he can to make amends and change his behavior. It'll be up to the alleged victims to forgive him or not.

If it's true, it wouldn't erase all of the good he's done or the art he's made but it would definitely make me deeply disappointed in him and I would want him to do everything he can to change his behavior and make up for it, for the sake of the people he may have hurt and those close to him as well as himself. I'm all for second chances, but he has to be contrite and committed to change.

Sorry for the rant, this whole mess has really been disheartening. Perhaps at the very least, we can have more of a civil discourse and conversation which can bring us to some positive change.

muh man!

 

[Polux]

I disagree. Telling me that if I don't like my aunt pinching my cheek she can go to prison and register for life?

What Ben is accused of doing is bad, but that doesn't mean we should be going to extremes like that. In my opinion, the public shame and the disappointment and loss of trust and respect from his fans and admirers is a great punishment if these accusations are told completely true.

Speaking on this kind of bad behavior as a whole, we should focus on letting more people know that sexual misconduct and anything like it is simply unacceptable, making potential victims feel safer about speaking up, and helping wrongdoers realize that what they do is wrong and that they should change it. The fact of the matter is that American culture has supported this kind of questionable and reprehensible behavior for a long time and now's the time to change it. A lot of guys grew up thinking the kind of behavior Ben is accused of is no big deal, and they still are. We can hardly demonize all of them when we've been letting it happen for generations. Let this be a learning experience for our society on the seriousness of these matters and change those kind of fallacies in thought.

Locking up all of the offenders for years and stamping them with a sex offender mark under some kind of blanket punishment is not going to solve anything in my opinion. Especially since the registry itself seems to be remarkably ineffective in stopping these kind of crimes. But if there is punishment, it should be proportional to the crime. Don't punish people who grope the same as people who rape, because they simply aren't the same.

Not saying all of those kinds of criminals should get away with a slap on the wrist, but understanding should be shown both for victims to be heard and helped to heal and for offenders so they can potentially be rehabilitated and change.

If these allegations are all true as accused, Ben should apologize with all of his heart and soul and do everything he can to make amends and change his behavior. It'll be up to the alleged victims to forgive him or not.

If it's true, it wouldn't erase all of the good he's done or the art he's made but it would definitely make me deeply disappointed in him and I would want him to do everything he can to change his behavior and make up for it, for the sake of the people he may have hurt and those close to him as well as himself. I'm all for second chances, but he has to be contrite and committed to change.

Sorry for the rant, this whole mess has really been disheartening. Perhaps at the very least, we can have more of a civil discourse and conversation which can bring us to some positive change.

Absolutely.

 

[heatvision38]

Good thinking. Doubting victims is always the best policy.

Rhetorical sarcasm isn't the best way to make an argument, especially when it's a straw man argument. Keeping an open-mind until/if more evidence comes forward is not the same thing as assuming the accuser is wrong. It is simply keeping an open-mind.