Justice League Ben Affleck IS Bruce Wayne/Batman - Part 4

[Maze]

Stumbled upon Affleck talking about rumors of him leaving in this recent interview.

5:12:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDqZ57zAsGY&t=712s

Regarding how many films he'll do as Batman:

Affleck: "I don't know, I take them one at a time, to me it's all material-based".

It smell like negociation tactic, imo.

I wan't to believe it also, of course. t:

 

[KillerWolf]

It smell like negociation tactic, imo.

I wan't to believe it also, of course. t:

It certainly seems like he is waiting to see what Reeves' direction is and whether it's going to be a trilogy or a standalone film before making the decision on whether he wants to be a part of it or not, which, to be honest, I can understand.

 

[Mandon Knight]

It certainly seems like he is waiting to see what Reeves' direction is and whether it's going to be a trilogy or a standalone film before making the decision on whether he wants to be a part of it or not, which, to be honest, I can understand.

Sign Ben, do whatever it takes man !!!! He is

 

[Maze]

It certainly seems like he is waiting to see what Reeves' direction is and whether it's going to be a trilogy or a standalone film before making the decision on whether he wants to be a part of it or not, which, to be honest, I can understand.

Yep, ditto.

He should just be more coherent : " i would play an ape for Matt Reeve"

 

[KillerWolf]

Yep, ditto.

He should just be more coherent : " i would play an ape for Matt Reeve"

I think it's the trilogy part that puts him off the most, as it requires years of dedication.

And I must add that he seems genuinely honest with his answer in this interview (as well as the infamous "I don't know about that" one that rekindled the fire ), I don't think he is trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes on this matter... he just isn't sure at this point.

 

[DeadPresident]

I'd rather keep Affleck, who will sever ties when he feels the material and his contribution don't hit the mark anymore, than have a studio goon put in place for what could end up feeling like a forced trilogy.

 

[NotNickFury]

Yep, ditto.

He should just be more coherent : " i would play an ape for Matt Reeve"

Maybe he's negotiating so he can be Bruce Wayne AND Gorilla Grodd.

 

[Arachnerd]

Stumbled upon Affleck talking about rumors of him leaving in this recent interview.

5:12:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDqZ57zAsGY&t=712s

Regarding how many films he'll do as Batman:

Affleck: "I don't know, I take them one at a time, to me it's all material-based".

So we're basically back to square one.

That's...somewhat comforting at least. I think part of Ben is waiting to see if JL is received well.

 

[-JKR-]

So we're basically back to square one.

That's...somewhat comforting at least. I think part of Ben is waiting to see if JL is received well.

Or he's simply waiting for Matt Reeves to finish the Batman script to make a decision.

 

[Arachnerd]

Or he's simply waiting for Matt Reeves to finish the Batman script to make a decision.

Hence why I said "part".

 

[DeadPresident]

So we're basically back to square one.

That's...somewhat comforting at least. I think part of Ben is waiting to see if JL is received well.

After the post-BvS deluge I don't blame him. If he's going to have to hear about another 'potential franchise killer' for the next 18 months he might just pack it in.

 

[thebatfan5194]

I've been saying all of the "rumors" are a negotiation tactic since SDCC this year. They're at a point where they would need to renegotiate his contract for him to continue. Matt Reeves has openly said that he has ideas for a trilogy and obviously WB would love to have another critically acclaimed Batman Trilogy off the heels of TDK trilogy, Ben only has one movie left in his contract, so they are likely at the negotiating table right now. Ben being wishy washy and drumming up controversy about him possibly leaving only helps his bargaining position.

Saying he's taking it one movie at time sounds exactly like what Hugh Jackman has been saying about Wolverine for the last few years prior to Logan. If Matt has an awesome pitch, I have no doubt Ben would want to be a part of it. Especially if he gets an RDJ level payday.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Stumbled upon Affleck talking about rumors of him leaving in this recent interview.

5:12:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDqZ57zAsGY&t=712s

Regarding how many films he'll do as Batman:

Affleck: "I don't know, I take them one at a time, to me it's all material-based".

I suppose we're at least getting some semblance of consistency from him in these recent press junket interviews. Case in point, here's another one where he expands a little on the above.

For me, I always evaluate this stuff on the merit of the material. I want to direct a “Batman” movie, but I never got a script I was happy with so they’re starting over and writing another script …

I know that I love working with this group of people. It was a real joy for me to make this movie because of Ezra, Ray (Fisher), Jason (Momoa), Henry (Cavill), Gal (Gadot) and Zack (Snyder, director). We really enjoyed one another’s company.

One almost gets the sense that he's torn between committing to a standalone trilogy versus reprising the role in a JL sequel, the latter of which he seems more inclined to do.

 

[KillerWolf]

I suppose we're at least getting some semblance of consistency from him in these recent press junket interviews. Case in point, here's another one where he expands a little on the above.



One almost gets the sense that he's torn between committing to a standalone trilogy versus reprising the role in a JL sequel, the latter of which he seems more inclined to do.

That's exactly how I see it.

 

[GothamBat]

"I never got a script that I was happy with" Ben you liar, you said it had nothing to do with the quality of the script or what have you, and that it was because you couldn't properly balance directorial duties with playing the role... note to self: never believe a thing Ben says ever again....

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

That's exactly how I see it.

At the risk of sounding repetitive, it would have been nice to see what he brings to a standalone movie that isn't encumbered by a group dynamic. But if another ensemble/event film gets him to don the cape and cowl a couple more times, I'll take it.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

I'd rather keep Affleck, who will sever ties when he feels the material and his contribution don't hit the mark anymore, than have a studio goon put in place for what could end up feeling like a forced trilogy.

Studio goon put in place for Affleck or Reeves? If Affleck leaves, Reeves will still want to do what he likes with an actor he likes. He's not a 'yes man' type of filmaker from what I've read. Don't think he'll stick around either if he feels forced or pressured to do a trilogy not to his liking. And I'd be miffed if WB were willing to let him go after almost losing him before.

 

[Jekecy]

I'd rather keep Affleck, who will sever ties when he feels the material and his contribution don't hit the mark anymore, than have a studio goon put in place for what could end up feeling like a forced trilogy.

Not really an either/or decision, at least we’ve no reason to believe it would be. Everything else may be in disarray at the moment, but I trust WB knows Batman is a different ballgame and will treat it with the respect deserving of Nolan’s footsteps. Hiring Reeves (after he already stepped away) was a positive step in that direction.

This is actually why I’m not for Ben stepping into his (presumed) trilogy, even for one film. I want Reeves to have full control over how his Batman will be depicted. Recasts are just a pain.

 

[KillerWolf]

At the risk of sounding repetitive, it would have been nice to see what he brings to a standalone movie that isn't encumbered by a group dynamic. But if another ensemble/event film gets him to don the cape and cowl a couple more times, I'll take it.

I'm inclined to agree.

 

[mari100]

"I never got a script that I was happy with" Ben you liar, you said it had nothing to do with the quality of the script or what have you, and that it was because you couldn't properly balance directorial duties with playing the role... note to self: never believe a thing Ben says ever again....

What? When exactly did he deny it had nothing to do with the quality of the script? He kept repeating over and over again he would only direct the movie if he had a decent script so I think that's probably the real reason or at least one of the reasons. A lot of people made that assumption when he left, except of course, some blind fanboys. If anything, he just revealed that, maybe unintentionally, but of course, in the formal statement he put out there he couldn't say that or WB wouldn't allow him. But considering he was part of the people writing the script, he's including himself in that, so what's the problem exactly?

 

[-JKR-]

What? He kept repeating over and over again he would only direct the movie if he had a decent script so I think that's probably the real reason or at least one of the reasons. A lot of people made that assumption when he left, except of course, some blind fanboys. If anything, he just revealed that, maybe unintentionally, but of course, in the formal statement he put out there he couldn't say that or WB wouldn't allow him. But considering he was part of the people writing the script, he's including himself in that, so what's the problem exactly?

Thank you!

 

[C Prometheus]

My guess from that USA Today quote aligning with the reports from a few months back with THR is that Ben will probably return one last time as Bruce Wayne/Batman in Flashpoint and Barry's messing around with time will result in a new actor in the role as Bruce at the film's end.

Ben has one film left on his contract to play Batman and is finally starting to admit what's been reported for ages now (that he wants out), Matt Reeves has already been on record that he wants to do a full trilogy of Batman movies. They're not going to have Ben star in The Batman if he's only interested in playing the role one more time and looking for a way out of it.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

My guess from that USA Today quote aligning with the reports from a few months back with THR is that Ben will probably return one last time as Bruce Wayne/Batman in Flashpoint and Barry's messing around with time will result in a new actor in the role as Bruce at the film's end.

Ben has one film left on his contract to play Batman and is finally starting to admit what's been reported for ages now (that he wants out), Matt Reeves has already been on record that he wants to do a full trilogy of Batman movies. They're not going to have Ben star in The Batman if he's only interested in playing the role one more time and looking for a way out of it.

This is honestly how I see this being played out.

 

[DeadPresident]

Studio goon put in place for Affleck or Reeves? If Affleck leaves, Reeves will still want to do what he likes with an actor he likes. He's not a 'yes man' type of filmaker from what I've read. Don't think he'll stick around either if he feels forced or pressured to do a trilogy not to his liking. And I'd be miffed if WB were willing to let him go after almost losing him before.

Hopefully that's the case, I'm not very familiar with Reeves or his approach/style. As long as WB is replicating whatever their own approach was with Patty Jenkins and WW, allowing a good creative team the space to make a good movie, I'm all for whatever pieces need to shift in or out.

Not really an either/or decision, at least we’ve no reason to believe it would be. Everything else may be in disarray at the moment, but I trust WB knows Batman is a different ballgame and will treat it with the respect deserving of Nolan’s footsteps. Hiring Reeves (after he already stepped away) was a positive step in that direction.

This is actually why I’m not for Ben stepping into his (presumed) trilogy, even for one film. I want Reeves to have full control over how his Batman will be depicted. Recasts are just a pain.

You're probably right, they know that if done correctly Batman is a windfall for them. At this point I'm tending towards agreeing with (and as much as I've enjoyed Batfleck) hoping for something along the lines of your bolded statement.

 

[C Prometheus]

Sharing this post of mine from another forum I'm at, since I remember some folks back in the summer trying to argue that THR was full of crap after Ben denied it at SDCC:

"I just noticed something. Ben's comment here eerily resembles the phrasing used in the news article that The Hollywood Reporter used back in the summer just before Comic Con, when they wrote that Ben wanted out of the role.

... But a source with knowledge of the situation says that the studio is working on plans to usher out Affleck’s Batman — gracefully, addressing the change in some shape or form in one of the upcoming DC films.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...as-warner-bros-plots-franchise-future-1023296

"You don't do it forever, so I want to find a graceful and cool way to segue out of it."

So yeah, Ben's little speech at SDCC this year seems to be him lying again, just like he did on Jimmy Kimmel about directing The Batman a couple weeks before announcing he wasn't going to helm the film. They've just been waiting until Justice League was here to drop the news."

The Hollywood Reporter seemed to nail it right on the head.