Tacit Ronin
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It's funny what time can do to a film.I have to be honest I'm surprised Identity is in the lead, Ultimatum won a similar poll in 2007 at a canter.
It's funny what time can do to a film.I have to be honest I'm surprised Identity is in the lead, Ultimatum won a similar poll in 2007 at a canter.
t:Identity easy since its the only one I can see what's happening
Identity just felt more like a generic thriller to me. I mean, a damn good generic thriller, but still with a kinda generic feel, with a very straightforward, predictable, glossy Hollywood spy-thriller story. I really don't feel like the series forged its own cinematic identity (pardon the pun) until Greengrass came aboard. Not only did I find them more interesting thematically (the atonement aspect of Supremacy being particularly unexpected and poignant to me), but I also loved how they elevated Bourne to this almost mythic, larger-than-life status. I mean, at the end of Identity, I didn't feel like we'd met some iconic cinematic hero, but at the end of Supremacy, I was sure we had.
And the action scenes in them are still my favorites by a wide margin. Shakey cam doesn't bother me when it's used by someone who knows what they're doing, and I've always felt Greengrass was the master of it (and the lack of spatial coherence in some of Gilroy's attempts at mimicking his style in Legacy just re-affirmed how good Greengrass really was for me). I actually kind of love it in his movies.
Identity just felt more like a generic thriller to me. I mean, a damn good generic thriller, but still with a kinda generic feel, with a very straightforward, predictable, glossy Hollywood spy-thriller story. I really don't feel like the series forged its own cinematic identity (pardon the pun) until Greengrass came aboard. Not only did I find them more interesting thematically (the atonement aspect of Supremacy being particularly unexpected and poignant to me), but I also loved how they elevated Bourne to this almost mythic, larger-than-life status. I mean, at the end of Identity, I didn't feel like we'd met some iconic cinematic hero, but at the end of Supremacy, I was sure we had.
And the action scenes in them are still my favorites by a wide margin. Shakey cam doesn't bother me when it's used by someone who knows what they're doing, and I've always felt Greengrass was the master of it (and the lack of spatial coherence in some of Gilroy's attempts at mimicking his style in Legacy just re-affirmed how good Greengrass really was for me). I actually kind of love it in his movies.
^I wouldnt say any particular of the first 3 were far better than the others, I just preferred the way Identity was directed compared to the others. Plus Identity had the most satisfying ending as well.
I think Identity is alot more fun, suspenseful, and interesting because you are discoverying the source and extent of Jason's ability along with him. The love interest made you more invested because you feared for her safety.
and of course zero shaky cam.
Agreed on both counts, the latter two movies are soulless IMO and that kills my investment in them, and story-wise all had a decent amount of intrigue.
I'm not sure how you come to soulless HR. I mean soulless? If anything I found Legacy to be pretty soulless.
I thought the ending was pretty powerful for Supremacy. Bourne giving that young woman the truth.
For people saying the shaky cam during action scenes are atrocious, where would you say its done correctly? Or are you saying that particular style doesn't work at all?
Cause I think its done very well in Supremacy and Ultimatum. You still understand whats going on while in other movies/directors they have no idea how to use it.