Boston Marathon Terror Attack - Part 3

[bullets]

The dude must think he's in Florida

 

[roach]

I believe bin Laden was given a proper Islamic burial, albeit at sea. I don't think that is any less respectful than laying in the ground.

he was buried at sea so that it wouldn't be a shrine for terrorists

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Accused Boston Marathon Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Smiles in Court, Pleads Not Guilty

 

[Enriquespy]

Like the last episode of Sherlock!

Soulds like he migth have an ace under his sleeve.

Or he's just nuts.

 

[bullets]

Like the last episode of Sherlock!

Sounds like he might have an ace under his sleeve.

Or he's just nuts.

I'm so glad this guy survived and was able to identify Tamerlan. http://dailynightly.nbcnews.com/_ne...ribes-standing-next-to-tamerlan-tsarnaev?lite

 

[chamber-music]

Like the last episode of Sherlock!

Soulds like he migth have an ace under his sleeve.

Or he's just nuts.

Staying alive is his ringtone

 

[Enriquespy]

Sooooooooo...

Nuts?

 

[kane9321]

damnit..this mofo isnt dead yet?

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Oh he will be, once he's found guilty and subsequently fried.

 

[terry78]

And he has been sentenced to death.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-death-sentence.html?_r=0

 

[Immortalfire]

How about for once we don't waste time and money by letting him sit on death row for twenty years, and just do him in tonight?

 

[kane9321]

And he has been sentenced to death.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-death-sentence.html?_r=0

excellent

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Good. I hope he dies sooner than later. And I hope until he dies, every day is a living hell for him.

 

[Duke]

They should expedite his death sentence for tonight.

 

[chaseter]

They should also execute his idiotic and hateful turd mother.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Burn in hell you POS

 

[Thundercrack85]

Life in prison would have been much worse.

 

[craigdbfan]

He was going to be sent to the most intense Supermax prison in the world. I agree with Thundercrack that he should have been sent there for his whole life.

 

[regwec]

I don't think the death penalty achieves much. The social matrix is better healed, after a heinous crime, by its perpetrator becoming part of the mundane. We exact the best vengeance by forgetting and moving on. I think life imprisonment realises this more efficiently.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I don't think the death penalty achieves much. The social matrix is better healed, after a heinous crime, by its perpetrator becoming part of the mundane. We exact the best vengeance by forgetting and moving on. I think life imprisonment realises this more efficiently.

That's a very good argument against the death penalty. I used to be fully against the death penalty, but after 9/11 I really wished Bin Laden dead. And then I started to feel that way about other really heinous killers like Anders Breivik (the Norway shooter), James Holmes the TDKR theater shooter, and Tsarnaev. I guess I simply got more hawkish and disgusted with these kind of sociopaths as I got older. We're raised to believe cold revenge is morally wrong, but sometimes "an eye for an eye" brings closure to the families of the victims, or in the case of large-scale attacks like 9/11, society as a collective. But you made a good point.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

he got fried...

he done died...

he got dumped to the side...

of a landfill...

 

[hippie_hunter]

Life in prison would have been much worse.

I don't think the death penalty achieves much. The social matrix is better healed, after a heinous crime, by its perpetrator becoming part of the mundane. We exact the best vengeance by forgetting and moving on. I think life imprisonment realises this more efficiently.

Typically I would be in the same boat in opposing the death penalty. I think that unless you have unusual circumstances, it shouldn't be used at all. However, I consider Tsarnaev to be one of those unusual circumstances.

On top of his incredibly heinous actions, Tsarnaev has clearly shown that there is absolutely no chance of being properly rehabilitated into proper society (which is what prison should be doing) and has shown absolutely no remorse for what he has done. He is essentially the equivalent of Old Yeller in my opinion and needs to be put down like the hopeless rabid dog that he is. When you have members of the Obama Administration that are typically opposed to the death penalty like Eric Holder were fine with imposing the death penalty on Tsarnaev, I think that's telling how bad his crimes and lack of remorse are.

I think that the social matrix would be better healed with Tsarnaev dead in this instance and the sooner the better.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Typically I would be in the same boat in opposing the death penalty. I think that unless you have unusual circumstances, it shouldn't be used at all. However, I consider Tsarnaev to be one of those unusual circumstances.

On top of his incredibly heinous actions, Tsarnaev has clearly shown that there is absolutely no chance of being properly rehabilitated into proper society (which is what prison should be doing) and has shown absolutely no remorse for what he has done. He is essentially the equivalent of Old Yeller in my opinion and needs to be put down like the hopeless rabid dog that he is. When you have members of the Obama Administration that are typically opposed to the death penalty like Eric Holder were fine with imposing the death penalty on Tsarnaev, I think that's telling how bad his crimes and lack of remorse are.

I think that the social matrix would be better healed with Tsarnaev dead in this instance and the sooner the better.

While I personally agree with you, one could play devil's advocate by pointing out the parents of Martin Richard (the boy who died) preferring life in prison.

Like you, I'm in favor of the death penalty only in cases that are especially heinous and horrific in scope and involve multiple victims (such as this one), and where the defendant shows little or no remorse (such as Tsarnaev). If Tsarnaev truly showed remorse for the victims' families in court, instead of only shedding a tear when his Aunt talked about what a "good boy" he was, maybe I could have been swayed. Lastly, I think the collective trauma on society, such as what Timothy McVeigh inflicted on Oklahoma, Bin Laden with New York and DC, or what Tsarnaev did to Boston's psyche should also play a factor. Some people called the celebrations ghoulish, but I think it was collectively cathartic for the country when it was announced Bin Laden was killed.

 

[regwec]

Globally speaking, the "USA!!!! USA! !!!!!" rabid delight in Bin Laden's assassination was unhelpful, as it appeared to represent triumphalism among a privileged and distanced public at the death of an adversarial underdog.

All the same I should say that, if America wishes to retain the death penalty, a nonsense would have been made of it were it not levelled at this prisoner at this time.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Globally speaking, the "USA!!!! USA! !!!!!" rabid delight in Bin Laden's assassination was unhelpful, as it appeared to represent triumphalism among a privileged and distanced public at the death of an adversarial underdog.

All the same I should say that, if America wishes to retain the death penalty, a nonsense would have been made of it were it not levelled at this prisoner at this time.

The way the glee was expressed with those chants and college kids partying over OBL's death made me uncomfortable. And it probably did no favors for our image globally. But it's hard to argue with the emotion behind it; well, at least the ones who weren't using it as an excuse to get drunk. The satisfaction with his demise should have been more dignified and private, but putting aside whatever horrible ways America reacted in the years afterwards, the fact remains the guy did kill 3,000 US citizens. You can't blame people for being happy over his death. Mark Twain perhaps had the right approach towards the deaths of awful people when he said "I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."