Bradley Cooper, Joel Edgerton and Lee Pace in an upcoming Marvel Studios film?

[OB12]

Reed was in his early 30s when the F4 started. He's about 10 years older than Sue, who was 20 in F4 #1.

But how old is Johnny in this scenario, 13? I'd rather Reed be mid-late 40's with Sue in her early-mid 30s so Johnny can be early 20s. I really liked the suggestion of Dermot Mulroney for Reed, I think that is an excellent choice.

As for Pace, I think I like him for Dr. Strange. He is kinda tall and has a unique look to him which I think will play well for Strange.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Johnny, like normal consecutive sibling age difference, should only have 2-3 years age difference from Sue. I say 2 years is enough. Johnny is not that young compared to Sue.

 

[OB12]

Johnny, like normal consecutive sibling age difference, should only have 2-3 years age difference from Sue. I say 2 years is enough. Johnny is not that young compared to Sue.

You could go that route, but I don't think it played well in the F4 movies we got. Alba and Evans were almost the same age and it just didn't seem to work for me. Could be due to Alba being wrong for the role, but I think it works better if they are 5 or so years apart.

On another note, I just can't get behind Cooper for much of anything in the MCU.

 

[Sebastos]

Iron Fist needs to be in a movie with Luke Cage.

I don't think Iron Fist's "powers" are that spectacular. I've seen martial arts movies where people have displayed the same "powers" and have been able to smash through solid doors and are martial arts experts as well. It's not really a super power as such. Iron Fist wouldn't look that different from these guys.

Have you read Inmortal Iron Fist? There's more to Danny's powers than that, not to mention the history aspect aswell. Read those 27 issues, just fantastic stuff and really put Danny on the map.

Feige confirmed the script takes in part from Immortal Iron Fist so that's a great start.

 

[geeknerddork]

Cable is a FOX property.

I'm just quoting what's been reported about Marvel hiring writers to create stories for lesser known heroes. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118001734?refCatId=13 Those are the characters that have been listed.

 

[KangConquers]

But how old is Johnny in this scenario, 13? I'd rather Reed be mid-late 40's with Sue in her early-mid 30s so Johnny can be early 20s. I really liked the suggestion of Dermot Mulroney for Reed, I think that is an excellent choice.

As for Pace, I think I like him for Dr. Strange. He is kinda tall and has a unique look to him which I think will play well for Strange.

This is what we know about the F4's ages:

Reed and Ben were freshman at the same time, presumably the same age (as is Doom.)

When Reed started grad school, he roomed at the Storm's house, where Sue (who was 12 at the time) developed a crush on him. You usually start grad-school at 22; Reed being the world's smartest man might've started earlier, meaning that he could be less than 10 years older than Sue.

We don't know exactly how old Sue was in F4 1, but we do know she was in a sophomore in college when she went on Reed's mission. That would put her at 19-20. Johnny is stated to be 16.


That means as of Fantastic 4 #1:


Reed- 29-30
Ben- 29-30
Sue- 19-20
Johnny- 16

 

[DrCosmic]

^And that's how it should be. I hate 20+ year old Johnny, it takes away the balance of the team if he's a fully autonomous adult capable of outshining the other guys on the team with his kewlness from the very outset. Being young is his weakness that keeps the F4 from being about him.

Man I hated the F4 films for that. If you're going to make Johnny the awesomeness he is in the comics now that he earned from years of loss and learning lessons and maturing, then make the other characters equally as untouchable.

edit:

Oh! The topic. Bradley Cooper doesn't do villains, so they're looking at him as a lead. And that's smart, casting mediocre actors as the mains was a great tactic to make sure Avengers happened, but it doesn't create high quality movies. That's why Iron Man is 'the man' amongst the Avengers, and they couldn't even have Ed Norton's Hulk. Great actors can carry a movie, even it's quiet scenes, all by themselves, and it makes the movie more than just a blip on the way to The Avengers, which is what they need.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

but it makes no sense for a teenager to be sent into space. Reed would be arrested for child endangerment, epecially considering the kid suffered a mutation as a result.

 

[VoodooMagic]

there is almost 0 chance JS is a teenager in the next movie

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I actually don't mind Bradley Cooper as Iron Fist... although I haven't seen any movie with him in it that I like...

Bradley Cooper was recently dropped from The Crow, I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel offered him Iron Fist after that.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Marvel should trade Fox Cable for Daredevil or, if they're lucky, the Fantastic Four. Cable by himself, without the X-Men, Mutants, Apocalypse, etc is just stupid. They'd have to strip out everything that makes him who he is if they were to make a movie about him. Seriously, if he's not a mutant, not the son of Cyclops, not an enemy of Apocalypse, then what's left? Cyborg guy from the future? What's his motivation for going to the past, now? It's pointless. Trade him to Fox for Daredevil or cash.

 

[Ultra Lantern]

Bradley Cooper should play Hank Pym/Antman.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Marvel should trade Fox Cable for Daredevil or, if they're lucky, the Fantastic Four. Cable by himself, without the X-Men, Mutants, Apocalypse, etc is just stupid. They'd have to strip out everything that makes him who he is if they were to make a movie about him. Seriously, if he's not a mutant, not the son of Cyclops, not an enemy of Apocalypse, then what's left? Cyborg guy from the future? What's his motivation for going to the past, now? It's pointless. Trade him to Fox for Daredevil or cash.

Well it depends on what the agreement with FOX includes or still includes, but honestly they don't have to trade anything. Disney can buy back whatever the hell it wants. Moreover I kind of feel like this new Cable series will be a massive character reinvention.

 

[S. Grundy]

All three are good choices for Pym. Though I think Edgerton could pull off Iron Fist too.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Bradley Cooper should play Hank Pym/Antman.

This.

Bradley Cooper is better utilized as a smart (aleck) character than a naive yet skilled actioney character. Why? His eyes. Check on Limitless where he used his eyes to great effect when he is on his "smart" mode. Ant Man now has a chance to interest female audiences.

Iron Fist is for that Tron Legacy lead or that blond Brit actor (Hunnam?).

 

[Captain Marvel]

Well it depends on what the agreement with FOX includes or still includes, but honestly they don't have to trade anything. Disney can buy back whatever the hell it wants. Moreover I kind of feel like this new Cable series will be a massive character reinvention.

If it was that easy then they'd have all their errant properties back, already. Just because Disney can afford to buy them back doesn't mean that Fox is willing to sell. A trade I can see happening, though, as they could potentially make money off of Cable.

 

[Sebastos]

This.

Bradley Cooper is better utilized as a smart (aleck) character than a naive yet skilled actioney character. Why? His eyes. Check on Limitless where he used his eyes to great effect when he is on his "smart" mode. Ant Man now has a chance to interest female audiences.

Iron Fist is for that Tron Legacy lead or that blond Brit actor (Hunnam?).

Garrett Hedlund yes, would be an excellent choice for Danny Rand.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Bradley Cooper could definitely do Pym, although I'm all for Simon Baker playing that role.

 

[VoodooMagic]

This.

Bradley Cooper is better utilized as a smart (aleck) character than a naive yet skilled actioney character. Why? His eyes. Check on Limitless where he used his eyes to great effect when he is on his "smart" mode. Ant Man now has a chance to interest female audiences.

Iron Fist is for that Tron Legacy lead or that blond Brit actor (Hunnam?).

Profiling an actor like you profiled Cooper would not lead us too Chris Evans as CA.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Profiling an actor like you profiled Cooper would not lead us too Chris Evans as CA.

Chris Evans is a hail mary. Marvel needs to cast someone American and historically pleasant with the studio for one of the hardest roles to cast (Thor is hard too, but they can get foreigners for this one).

Cooper is best signed for Ant Man. He can act like a down on luck and charming geek as Henry Pym.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

Ryan Philippe would be my choice for Iron Fist

 

[Dark Raven]

Bradley Cooper could definitely do Pym, although I'm all for Simon Baker playing that role.

Well Simon Baker actually looks more like Scott Lang. So there's no reason both of them couldn't be in the movie together. Lang could steal the Ant-Man costume from Bradley Cooper's Pym, with Pym giving it to him eventually with his blessing. That's if they're still going with that plot that Edgar Wright originally envisioned about a passing of the baton between the two.

They could even do something like this story where both Pym and Lang have to team up to save the Wasp:

And if they did adapt that story, it would lead into one of the best Avengers villains who could potentially take on the entire team in Avengers 2:

The only hesitation I would have about Cooper and Baker working together is that Baker seems like he could be older than Cooper (and so maybe the roles should be reversed), but I could be mistaken.

 

[cherokeesam]

Well Simon Baker actually looks more like Scott Lang. So there's no reason both of them couldn't be in the movie together. Lang could steal the Ant-Man costume from Bradley Cooper's Pym, with Pym giving it to him eventually with his blessing. That's if they're still going with that plot that Edgar Wright originally envisioned about a passing of the baton between the two.

True, and I like your casting for both Pym and Lang. But Cornish's original script made the age difference a *lot* wider --- Pym was supposed to be the Ant-Man of the 1960s. He'd be an old man by now, well into his 60s or older.

Another thing to take into consideration is that if Marvel is already auditioning for roles, this is most likely for a film that's going to start shooting next year (or even later this year)...i.e., a film with a 2013 release date. Which could well mean that they're casting for somebody for IM3 and/or Thor 2. Just sayin'.

 

[Dark Raven]

True, and I like your casting for both Pym and Lang. But Cornish's original script made the age difference a *lot* wider --- Pym was supposed to be the Ant-Man of the 1960s. He'd be an old man by now, well into his 60s or older.

Another thing to take into consideration is that if Marvel is already auditioning for roles, this is most likely for a film that's going to start shooting next year (or even later this year)...i.e., a film with a 2013 release date. Which could well mean that they're casting for somebody for IM3 and/or Thor 2. Just sayin'.

Well the script might have had to have been modified in light of the other MCU movies. If it weren't, then Edgar Wright wouldn't still be turning in drafts these days.

I hope Pym isn't the Ant-Man of the 60s. I don't mind if they actually eschew Lang in favour of just having a Pym and Jan origin story. It's complicated enough creating the origin of those two without needing a 3rd person in the mix. Pym really needs to be Ant-Man in the Avengers for a while before giving up his Ant-Man identity to Lang.

Maybe Lang is best saved for a sequel.

 

[chiefchirpa]

True, and I like your casting for both Pym and Lang. But Cornish's original script made the age difference a *lot* wider --- Pym was supposed to be the Ant-Man of the 1960s. He'd be an old man by now, well into his 60s or older.

Another thing to take into consideration is that if Marvel is already auditioning for roles, this is most likely for a film that's going to start shooting next year (or even later this year)...i.e., a film with a 2013 release date. Which could well mean that they're casting for somebody for IM3 and/or Thor 2. Just sayin'.

The original script might not be focusing on Pym and the Avengers. There was a rumor that it was going to be a comedy with Scott Lang as Ant Man. In the last 2-3 years Henry Pym gets his mojo back in comics and the Avengers worth increases exponentially. Logically, Pym is more valuable than Lang in the Avengers because Pym is an Avengers charter member and he's still breathing in comics world.

Avengers 2, which RDJ might call it enough, could give a seat open to Bradley Cooper/whatever dude for being the team smart guy.