Breaking Bad - Part 14

[Sawyer]

The most hilarious BB meme bar none. If only because of how wrong it is.

 

[Sawyer]

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[A Necessary Evil]

I really hope my box set comes in soon

 

[Siby]

Well, I finally finished watching the last eight episodes of the series and...wow. The final episode is one of the best if not the best series finale I've ever seen. It had everything wrapped up, and the level of the show was off the charts great. I'll admit I did get a bit choked up for most of the episode. The emotional tension was freaking unreal.

To respond to the villains list, I would still not place Todd above Gus. Todd was a good character is a pathetic, cold blooded killer sort of way but he was no Gus. I would also add Lydia to the list of villains also. I'm glad she got what she deserved and the got it the way she got it. It was awesome. I really liked the quirkiness of the character.

It was a fun ride and I'm glad I was able to binge through the episodes. I don't think I would have been able to take it one week at a time.

Now my friends tell me I need to start Homeland.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I liked the last two episodes, but you know, part of me thinks that the best way of ending the series would've been Ozymandias. The only altercation would've been killing Jesse, since I think leaving his fate like that would've been too up in the air, but the rest of it makes for the best ending in an artistic sense to me. I know people would've *****ed about not getting to see what happened to Walt and seeing him get revenge or whatever, but I honestly don't think that stuff mattered in the end to what the rest of the episode accomplished.

That's not to say I thought those last two episodes were bad, per say, but as I watched them, they felt more like a tagged on coda. Maybe I'll change my opinion when I sit down and watch them again when I finally get the DVDs, though.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I just look at it like Ozymandias is the ending and the final 2 episodes are the epilogue. Extra info to satisfy all loose ends but not at all necessary to end the story.

 

[Lord]

I still disagree, i think the finale suited the show fine, Ozymandias may have been a great episode, but it wasn't completelly an ending, even Walt's faith should be shown. My fathor though thinks they should have ended in Season 4, but if that happened then Walt wouldn't get the consequences of his actions.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I agree about Ozymandias not being the finale. It would have felt very off and probably wouldn't be as well-received and critically acclaimed if it was.

Felina I feel like is damn good ending, especially the scene with Walt and Skyler.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I think it would've been similar to The Sopranos. A lot of people would've been pissed, but I think it's something that would've been more fondly looked at over time. I don't know, the whole finale felt kind of sterile to me. That's probably not a good word to use, since it implies something bad, which I don't mean it as bad, but I tend to be a fan of ambiguity. Like I said, I haven't rewatched it since the original airing, so I may feel differently when I watch those last episodes again.

 

[Tron Bonne]

And I guess since I'm stating my unpopular BB opinions, I kind of think the flash forward sequences were unneeded in retrospect. They did get attention and all, but since they basically just got glossed over again in the present time story they didn't really have much purpose. Would've been just better to incorporate that linearly into the story, I think.

 

[Siby]

I agree about Ozymandias not being the finale. It would have felt very off and probably wouldn't be as well-received and critically acclaimed if it was.

Felina I feel like is damn good ending, especially the scene with Walt and Skyler.

That's when I lost it. When Walt visits her alone and smoking. Then she comments on how bad he looks. The way she says it was very touching. Later when Walt asks to see Holly and to see him so content, and to add to that the slight smile on Skylar's face to see Walt with their child. The whole scene was beautiful and was a goodbye between them. The saddest part was the last moments he had with his son.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

And I guess since I'm stating my unpopular BB opinions, I kind of think the flash forward sequences were unneeded in retrospect. They did get attention and all, but since they basically just got glossed over again in the present time story they didn't really have much purpose. Would've been just better to incorporate that linearly into the story, I think.

I think it did have a purpose. It served as a nice bit of foreshadowing. Throughout the whole 5th season, you see him gaining more money than ever and instead of worry if that other shoe will drop, the flash-forward let you know that the beginning that things will fall apart. Instead of focusing as much on the if, you focus more on the when and how.

I also think the jarringly different appearance and the alternate identity emphasizes how far things have fallen, which is a nice (and escalative if that's a word) juxtaposition to how season 4 ended with his greatest victory, possibly in life.

I think it would've been similar to The Sopranos. A lot of people would've been pissed, but I think it's something that would've been more fondly looked at over time. I don't know, the whole finale felt kind of sterile to me. That's probably not a good word to use, since it implies something bad, which I don't mean it as bad, but I tend to be a fan of ambiguity. Like I said, I haven't rewatched it since the original airing, so I may feel differently when I watch those last episodes again.

Fair enough.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

That's when I lost it. When Walt visits her alone and smoking. Then she comments on how bad he looks. The way she says it was very touching. Later when Walt asks to see Holly and to see him so content, and to add to that the slight smile on Skylar's face to see Walt with their child. The whole scene was beautiful and was a goodbye between them. The saddest part was the last moments he had with his son.

You didn't even mention my favorite part of the show (and one of my favorite parts of the whole series).

"I did it for me."

 

[Siby]

You didn't even mention my favorite part of the show (and one of my favorite parts of the whole series).

"I did it for me."

I could gush over every bit of that finale but didn't want to make a huge post.

I totally agree with you about the line "I did it for me". The build up for that line was great too. Skylar was about to say how sick she was (and me) about hearing how Walt did it for "the family". The look on Walt's face and his body language was spot on when he delivered that line. Walt really does come to terms with his actions and is ready to die.

The other great line is when Walt says "I have nothing". It was great to see this man fall so far and lose so much. Losing his wife, kids, Jesse, Hank/Marie, the company he co-founded, and of course the money. As bad as Walt was to Jesse, I really do believe he loved Jesse like a son.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Walt loved Jesse. Heisenberg didn't.

 

[Lord]

There was no Heisenberg, Walt was Heisenberg. And if there was an Heisenberg, then he looked at Jesse as if he was his son.

 

[venom892]

There was no Heisenberg, Walt was Heisenberg. And if there was an Heisenberg, then he looked at Jesse as if he was his son.

Agreed. I always felt as if Walt saw Jesse as an heir to his "empire". He obviously couldn't leave the business to his son when he died. I think he wanted the Heisenberg name to live on with Jesse.

 

[Sawyer]

I don't quite agree with the assessment that there was no Heisenberg. I just see Heisenberg as a state of mind for Walt. What was once just a mask for him sort of came to life in season five. He had killed his oppressor, he could do anything, he was untouchable. He was the king.

But I don't think his outlook ever changed where Jesse was concerned. Not until Hank died. Up until that point, he did everything he could to ensure that Jesse would not put him in the position of having to take him out of the equation.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I think it did have a purpose. It served as a nice bit of foreshadowing. Throughout the whole 5th season, you see him gaining more money than ever and instead of worry if that other shoe will drop, the flash-forward let you know that the beginning that things will fall apart. Instead of focusing as much on the if, you focus more on the when and how.

I also think the jarringly different appearance and the alternate identity emphasizes how far things have fallen, which is a nice (and escalative if that's a word) juxtaposition to how season 4 ended with his greatest victory, possibly in life.

I don't know, I think that was so blunt it became sort of cheap as any kind of foreshadowing, especially since the foreshadowing is so well done in the rest of the show. It served a good purpose at it's time, but I don't know, since they basically just glossed over it all again, it feels redundant in retrospect. But, to be honest, I generally find that kind of stuff fairly cheap and not needed. Occasionally, there is a show that does it well (like Lost, for instance), but most of the time not.

 

[Brother Jack]

Walt loved Jesse. Heisenberg didn't.

I've never agreed with a binary reading of his character. He didn't have split personality disorder, Heisenberg was Walt and vice versa. He's a complex character with good and evil instincts at play inside of him, often concurrently.

 

[James]

 

[Tron Bonne]

Thought this was interesting. Apparently someone filed a suit against Apple for buying a season pass for season 5. Some of you noticed (and there was some debate in here) that AMC/Sony, for some reason, really demphasized the fact that the last episodes were actually part of the fifth season, and eventually ended up dubbing them under "The Final Season". Well, this customer basically said that the pass he bought for season 5 promised the entire season, it was misleading when he had to drop another $22.99 for the last episodes. Apple has been issuing $22.99 in store credit for customers who bought the "Final Season" season pass. Here's the article I read about it:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/features/1687/dark-doctrine-heisenberg-s-last-victim

I thought it was odd how they kept walking around the fact that the season was split. I guess it was a marketing idea, they didn't want people thinking they were "only" getting half a season with a part attached to the title. Calling the last episodes "The Final Season" is especially deceiving, too. Guess it was a marketing idea that blew up, though. I wonder if this is going to reach to Amazon and other VOD places that do the season pass thing.

 

[carrrnuttt]

Breaking Bad Theme Song Remix:

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He has a free download link if you click on the video to go to YT.

 

[Lord]

Amazing

By the way, i think my favorite ending scene for BB episode was Granite state

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Loved the music leading up to the empty glass

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Thought this was interesting. Apparently someone filed a suit against Apple for buying a season pass for season 5. Some of you noticed (and there was some debate in here) that AMC/Sony, for some reason, really demphasized the fact that the last episodes were actually part of the fifth season, and eventually ended up dubbing them under "The Final Season". Well, this customer basically said that the pass he bought for season 5 promised the entire season, it was misleading when he had to drop another $22.99 for the last episodes. Apple has been issuing $22.99 in store credit for customers who bought the "Final Season" season pass. Here's the article I read about it:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/features/1687/dark-doctrine-heisenberg-s-last-victim

I thought it was odd how they kept walking around the fact that the season was split. I guess it was a marketing idea, they didn't want people thinking they were "only" getting half a season with a part attached to the title. Calling the last episodes "The Final Season" is especially deceiving, too. Guess it was a marketing idea that blew up, though. I wonder if this is going to reach to Amazon and other VOD places that do the season pass thing.

I hope this guy loses just because I hate frivolous law-suits. Actually I hope he gets counter-sued. Really, dude? You had to sue Apple because you didn't get all your BB episodes? I hope this get-rich-quick scheming jackass has fun discovering just how much more legal representation costs than a season-pass for Breaking Bad.