Breaking Bad

[Homer J. Fong]

I also don't understand why the authors referred to Skyler as being one of the most unlikable characters in the series. The hate sent her direction just baffles me.

I've never understood the Skyler hate (but then, I've never been Team Walt or Team Heisenberg or whaever). Anna Gunn's op-ed piece in the NY Times on that subject was very well done.

 

[BestGirl]

I feel like a lot of BrBa fans are single men without kids, and that's why so many of them can't relate to Skyler or Jr. (who has also picked up a lot of hate online). It seems like Skyler is seen as some sort of overbearing mom figure who just wants to ruin Walt's fun. Me, I've always found Sky's behavior to be consistent with how a lot of people would behave in her situation, and Jr was quite sweet. It's nice seeing a teen onscreen who isn't a complete brat.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I feel like a lot of BrBa fans are single men without kids, and that's why so many of them can't relate to Skyler or Jr. (who has also picked up a lot of hate online). It seems like Skyler is seen as some sort of overbearing mom figure who just wants to ruin Walt's fun. Me, I've always found Sky's behavior to be consistent with how a lot of people would behave in her situation, and Jr was quite sweet. It's nice seeing a teen onscreen who isn't a complete brat.

Haters just suck. Skyler and Walt Jr were great characters portrayed by great actors (or actresses). I never got the hate for either. I think a lot of it comes from these idiots who take the fun notion of "team Walt" too seriously and like you said, probably single and ignorant of family dynamics. Maybe they were hated because they sometimes were the voice of reason (well, Sky less so as the series went on), but Sky and Junior's actions and personalities were always consistent and they were never written stupidly or portrayed woodenly. You want to see a REAL bad character portrayed by a REAL bad actor or actress? Check out Andrea from 'Walking Dead' who was probably the dumbest character ever portrayed on a TV drama, or my-only-facial-expression-is-a-scowl Dana Brody from 'Homeland', who unlike Walt Jr who is depicted as a three-dimensional human, is just an embodiment of all the boring spoiled, entitled teen stereotypes that drive viewers crazy with their one-note whining.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I really like Skyler and Jr., and even see why Skyler acts the way she does (it truly is Walt's fault.), however, her little situation with Ted made me dislike her for a while. That being said, I am single and do not have a child.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Here's the trailer:

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It's easy to match the Colombian scenes with their American counterparts.

Wow that seems way too slavish to bother watching. It's one thing to depart too much from your source-material. But this is too much in the other direction. It's like a South American dude is wearing a Walter White costume. Make the characters your own! They don't have to completely resemble their American counterparts down to their physical features and even clothing styles.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Wow that seems way too slavish to bother watching. It's one thing to depart too much from your source-material. But this is too much. It's like a South American dude is wearing a Walter White costume. Make the characters your own! They don't have to completely resemble their American counterparts down to their physical features and even clothing styles.

Now you know how it feels watching US remakes of international TV shows!

 

[The Shape]

Truthfully, there was a point in the series when Skyler was very unlikable to me. She came off as needy, nagging, and intrusive...which are all perfectly natural ways for a wife to act. But that was all during a period when Walt was much more likable and I felt more empathy towards him. One of the best things about BB is how the show forced your feelings towards certain characters to change as the seasons went on. I mean, there periods when I even hated Jessie and was totally on Walt's side, and them times I hated Walt and felt awful for Jesse.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I really like Skyler and Jr., and even see why Skyler acts the way she does (it truly is Walt's fault.), however, her little situation with Ted made me dislike her for a while. That being said, I am single and do not have a child.

lol I should probably clarify that I'm not saying all single, childless people buy into this mindset. I'm also childless and unmarried (though I do have a gf). But I'd wager it's mostly the man-childs out there who hate Sky and Walt Jr for basically being the "party-poopers" so to speak whenever they get on Walt for keeping secrets or doing something Heisenbergy.

 

[Soapy]

It will probably be like just about every other TV show remake; starts out pretty close to the source material and then kind of veers off into its own direction at some point.

 

[Lord]

About Skyler and Walter Jr. I'm "Team Walt" and i never really got into the hate, i watched the show in a row and only now and then saw comments about people not liking her, but i allways found her decisions to be normal considering the conditions she was in, and even when she slept with Ted, while it was a stupid decision, it was a humanly stupid decision, the kind of mistake people may do when in such bad positions.

And about the Schwartz couple, i think it was mostly Walt's fault for getting out of the company, he must have had an emotional fallout with Gretchen and Elliot, and let his ego take the better of him, so instead of emending things he simply walked away. Even then i did enjoy the part where he met with them in their house, a final goodbye to them and an insurance that his family will get his money.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

 

[giveyourself12%]

Here are my thoughts from an earlier thread that sum up while I dislike the Skyler character...has nothing to do with her being a "party pooper". lol

The difference is that Walter's intent, however misguided, was and has never been to betray her. It was always to save her, along with Walter Jr, and Holly, from the extreme hardship and financial burden left for them after his death.

Skyler's intent, with her passive aggressive, "I'm going to show you what it's like when your spouse leaves and doesn't tell you where they're going"...

...her coldness as soon as Walt comes home from the hospital from his faked fugue state, including her statement, "Maybe I did it in a fugue state" before she had any reason to doubt him(yes he lied but it stemmed from his desire to be back with his family after being abducted and almost killed)...

...her affair with her boss with her infant daughter lying feet away...

ALL were done with the pure and simple motivation of hurting Walt. There is no other way to spin it.

I think Anna Gunn is a talented actress and she's done a marvelous job of portraying a woman every bit as emotionally damaged and immature as Walter(who won't take charity even if he has to resort to manufacturing and selling drugs) has been shown to be.

I'm also reminded of the scene in ABQ where she first mentions leaving and taking the kids to Hank and Marie's and Walt asks, "If I tell you everything, will you stay?" and despite his offer of honesty she leaves anyway telling him something like, "I'm too scared to know."

How does that work? She's angry at him for lying but won't let him tell her the truth.

Let's not kid ourselves, while she loves her children every bit as much as Walt, her motivation, at least as part of her early responses to Walt's (to her) frustrating and baffling behavior, was to hurt him.

In summation: Walt's motivation - "A Man Provides"
Skyler's motivation - "Hurt Walt, Get Revenge"

Hence my dislike of the character. Like I said, Anna's a great actress and she's done really well with all this IMHO.

 

[BatLobster]

Speaking of Ted...I'm still not a huge fan of how they wrapped up his story. I think there was more to explore there in terms of Skyler's guilt.

 

[Sawyer]

Breaking Bad: The Animated Series

 

[moviedoors]

Here are my thoughts from an earlier thread that sum up while I dislike the Skyler character...has nothing to do with her being a "party pooper". lol

All things she was driven to do out of desperation, fear, and helplessness. She made poor decisions too, but this ultimately is on Walt's shoulders. Skylar did the best she could with what she had, but she's only human.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Here are my thoughts from an earlier thread that sum up while I dislike the Skyler character...has nothing to do with her being a "party pooper". lol

tl;dr

 

[giveyourself12%]

tl;dr

It happens, brah.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I've never understood the Skyler hate (but then, I've never been Team Walt or Team Heisenberg or whaever). Anna Gunn's op-ed piece in the NY Times on that subject was very well done.

Here's the thing I think there is a reason the character has brought out a lot of "hate" and it's not just due to people's own biases.

I think as a character she was written as a foil for walt at least early on. If you watch the first season before she even has any idea walt is a drug dealer, she is constantly undermining him. Whether she was right or wrong is debatable but "early" walt was a pretty sympathetic character so she sort of got off the wrong foot as a character for many viewers.

 

[The Chris]

Yeah, I actually couldn't stand her in season one. But the worse Walt got, the more sympathy and understanding I had for her.

 

[Piper Maru]

In the finale, anybody else found it too convenient for Walt to not only find an unlocked car, but have the car keys in it as well?

I disagree. A friend of mine had his truck stolen a few years ago. How did it get stolen? Well the idiot drove home drunk, left the keys in the ignition and the door partially open. So there's that.

 

[FailureByDesign]

IGN posted top 10 episodes, can't say I agree with all of them.http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/10/04/top-10-breaking-bad-episodes?page=2

Here are my top 10 and a short reason why i love this one slighty more than the rest (ranking BB episodes is like saying which child you love most):

1. Ozymandias - Never felt so tense watching a television show. ever.
2. 4 Days Out - This was really the episode where i knew i was watching something special. Plus 'A robot?!'
3. Half Measures - Mike's speech
4. One Minute - Jesse's speech/Hank and the cousins
5. Face Off - Gus walking to his death/Two-face
6. Dead Freight - Before ozymandias this was as tense as it got for me
7. Confessions - Jesse finally waking up to Walt's lies/Gasoline scene
8. Problem Dog - Jessie's Speech (Aaron Paul really shining)
9.Crawl Space - Walt's crying turning to laughing
10. Fly - Brave and powerful

 

[BatLobster]

IGN posted top 10 episodes, can't say I agree with all of them.http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/10/04/top-10-breaking-bad-episodes?page=2

Here are my top 10 and a short reason why i love this one slighty more than the rest (ranking BB episodes is like saying which child you love most):

1. Ozymandias - Never felt so tense watching a television show. ever.
2. 4 Days Out - This was really the episode where i knew i was watching something special. Plus 'A robot?!'
3. Half Measures - Mike's speech
4. One Minute - Jesse's speech/Hank and the cousins
5. Face Off - Gus walking to his death/Two-face
6. Dead Freight - Before ozymandias this was as tense as it got for me
7. Confessions - Jesse finally waking up to Walt's lies/Gasoline scene
8. Problem Dog - Jessie's Speech (Aaron Paul really shining)
9.Crawl Space - Walt's crying turning to laughing
10. Fly - Brave and powerful

Ew, they defended the plane crash while also implying that people who didn't like it just didn't "get" it. Stupid IGN.

 

[Shikamaru]

Here's the thing I think there is a reason the character has brought out a lot of "hate" and it's not just due to people's own biases.

I think as a character she was written as a foil for walt at least early on. If you watch the first season before she even has any idea walt is a drug dealer, she is constantly undermining him. Whether she was right or wrong is debatable but "early" walt was a pretty sympathetic character so she sort of got off the wrong foot as a character for many viewers.

This is exactly it. I didn't have a problem with Skyler past the second half of season 3 but I don't think anyone can deny that she was a complete ***** at least in seasons 1 & 2. It angered me to no end seeing her give Walter no privacy, assuming the worst of him even when he wasn't cooking, accusing him of lying about his fugue state solely based on emotions, etc.

I remember when Jesse first called the White household in episode 2. Skyler calls back, traces the phone call to Jesse, checks his website, then goes to his house. Who does that just because their husband sounded a bit weird on the phone?

Another example is the crap she gave Walter for wanting some time alone while on chemo. "Oh, you have cancer, are on strict meds, and might only have a bit of time left to live? Why would you ever want some time alone to reflect on yourself?! You're obviously cheating!" It doesn't matter that Walt was actually cooking meth. As far as she knows, he just wants some time to himself and she gives him crap for that.

Or how about trying to permanently **** up Holly with her smoking habits to get back at Walt? How would that conversation have played out when Holly was older if her idea worked? "Honey, you know why you were born with *insert genetic disease*? Because I smoked an entire pack a day when you were pregnant to get back at your dad who died of cancer years ago. I hope you can understand."

Was Skyler still a ***** as the show progressed? No. She grew and matured a lot, and that is kinda the point. I think she was meant to be that way for the writers to develop her into someone else. Regardless, I don't see how anyone can deny that, at the start of the show, Skyler was a complete *****.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Here's the thing yes that was all intended by the writers. They wanted to show walt was weak and yes emasculated by his wife. She did treat him like a child. If a grown man wants to smoke weed in private that should be his decision, who the hell was it for her to track down his "dealer" and then tell him off as if he was selling to her son?

I see no reason to take dislike of the character out on anna gunn but to deny that the character was depicted as unlikable at least initially is false. She was deliberately depicted as one of the things that made walt turn into heisenberg.

 

[Lord]

Ew, they defended the plane crash while also implying that people who didn't like it just didn't "get" it. Stupid IGN.

The plane crash is unpopular among fans?

IGN posted top 10 episodes, can't say I agree with all of them.http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/10/04/top-10-breaking-bad-episodes?page=2

Here are my top 10 and a short reason why i love this one slighty more than the rest (ranking BB episodes is like saying which child you love most):

1. Ozymandias - Never felt so tense watching a television show. ever.
2. 4 Days Out - This was really the episode where i knew i was watching something special. Plus 'A robot?!'
3. Half Measures - Mike's speech
4. One Minute - Jesse's speech/Hank and the cousins
5. Face Off - Gus walking to his death/Two-face
6. Dead Freight - Before ozymandias this was as tense as it got for me
7. Confessions - Jesse finally waking up to Walt's lies/Gasoline scene
8. Problem Dog - Jessie's Speech (Aaron Paul really shining)
9.Crawl Space - Walt's crying turning to laughing
10. Fly - Brave and powerful

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