Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire - Part 3

[Kev4000]

As much I disliked Riley in season 4, I really adore his storyline in season 5 feeling useless without a destiny.

 

[Sawyer]

Oh Gawd...

 

[Primal Slayer]

Oh Gawd...

I wonder if she is still baking.

 

[flickchick85]

Please nobody elaborate on that comment. I want CC to continue her first-time watch of the series with only that comment as her hint on how it ends.

 

[Dr.]

Somewhat famously… Buffy has three birthdays!

October 24, 1980
May 6, 1979
January 19, 1981

The first two are cited in the same episode (!): “I Robot, You Jane.” Another episode (which will remain nameless ) lists 1981 as her birth year. But I’m not sure where the January 19 comes from.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Somewhat famously… Buffy has three birthdays!

October 24, 1980
May 6, 1979
January 19, 1981

The first two are cited in the same episode (!): “I Robot, You Jane.” Another episode (which will remain nameless ) lists 1981 as her birth year. But I’m not sure where the January 19 comes from.

Looks like Darkhorse made Jan.19th the official bday and im assuming Joss ok'd it.

 

[ComicChick]

Please nobody elaborate on that comment. I want CC to continue her first-time watch of the series with only that comment as her hint on how it ends.

you watch out for me, you are my Giles

 

[DKDetective]

Looks like Darkhorse made Jan.19th the official bday and im assuming Joss ok'd it.

January 19 is the original airdate of the first Buffy birthday episode "Surprise" from season 2.

 

[ComicChick]

so i'm up to the episodes where Angel fired everyone, let Darla and Dru massacre the W&H party, says for Lindsay and Lilah and on Buffy, Joyce just got out of surgery and Riley left.
i kinda liked that this episode was a "mostly human" one, dealing with real life while trying to deal with slayer stuff.

and i love Lorne. i do not love Cordy's haircut lol

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah that haircut was...a look.

That episode with Riley's ultimatum and Xander's whole condescending speech made me so mad, but this was still me at the end:

With that dead weight gone, the season really starts getting good, imo.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Cordelias hair doesnt really recover until the end.

 

[flickchick85]

I mean, it got....better...?

 

[Primal Slayer]

I mean, it got....better...?

I guess that is true. The version after this one isnt horrible, the one after that one is...decent, the one after that is..mom-ish but those luscious curls! Never should've got rid of em.

 

[ComicChick]

for the record, after Cordy, Wes and Gunn did karaoke and are sitting around the table and Lorne comes up, i just want to say how much swag he had. I was so occupied with paying attention to him and what he was saying, while casually removing his jacket, that it was so smooth how he was just ready for Cordy's vision and had the jacket as a pillow behind her. i feel like that was totally underappreciated but it might be one of, if not the scene i remember most from that ep

 

[Sithborg]

Fairly certain this is a bit more than I have seen about the situation. I do wonder how deep the problem is, and how many other Whedon regulars were aware.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I wasn't into Angel TV show for most of its run and only saw random episodes here and there sporadically - I remember hating the few of the Connor character episodes I saw especially - until Season 5 when it picked up Spike from BtVS. Even on some internet boards back then I remember reading people were worried speculating or confused as to why Charisma Carpenter's character was (mis)handled the way she was - some just blaming pregnancy - but some relented when she reappeared in Season 5 briefly. So that's always been something in the back of the minds of show fans for a long time I'm sure, it stuck with me who really was late to the party. And Charisma says today it was an ugly, bullying, malicious, and a toxic environment on Whedon's part

Just because someone is good at their job doesn't make them a good person. And it's been accused many times now that Whedon is bad at the non-public facing portion of his job: dealing with other talent. To say nothing else of what his ex-wife alleges.

 

[Primal Slayer]

What Charisma revealed before this was bad but this definitely drives it home. It does suck to hear that my favorite show had such issues bts and how much of a tyrant Joss was bts. But it does seem that Joss was the common demoninator in the drama.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[Primal Slayer]

SMG said so much w/so little.

 

[kvz5]

 

[Primal Slayer]

Growing up, i wanted to be an actor and work with Joss, and of course be on Buffy. 10 yr old me is sad.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I will always love Buffy, Angel and Firefly. But Whedon has been dead to me for a while and I don't know how people were trying to ignore who he was obviously was.

 

[flickchick85]

It’s good to see the cast finally coming out in full force, though. I don’t recall them backing up Charisma like this before.

 

[LuvSupes]

More from Michelle's instagram..

 

[Primal Slayer]

It’s good to see the cast finally coming out in full force, though. I don’t recall them backing up Charisma like this before.

I think they may have thought she made peace with him or that since she mostly spoke about her experiences at cons, it never got much attention