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The Dark Knight Rises Can it be topped?

I know it's your opinion. I never said it wasn't. I asked you a question, in the realm of your opinion, and you didn't offer me such an answer. So I guess it was actually you who missed my point.

So perhaps I should rephrase. Do you think female nudity and sexual situations are far more controversial than rape, mutilation, grotesque murder and cannibalism in the minds of parents with young children who have access to the internet?

No, it is you missing the point. I said it's MY personal opinion on why WB wouldn't want to promote someone like that. Never once did I say I'd disqualify her from the role if I were the director. When an actor or actress takes part in a scene with fake blood and staged violence it seems to be accepted however if an actor or actress exposes more than what is accepted on film then that is where the controversy starts. In case I didn't make it clear, I'm not stating this as if I'd disqualify someone for a role if I were a director but it's My OPINION on why WB wouldn't want to promote someone like that. And like I said, she isn't considered for TDKR.

But I admit, Pot Pete is onto something, if what he is saying is correct. If so, then I'm officially proven wrong. Not afraid of that.
 
The cast & crew of these films is filled with psychos. It's all in good fan.
 
By the way, I don't think it'll top TDK. Nolan really went full throttle with TDK. I doubt any other villain can top Heath Ledger's performance. Harvey Dent/Two Face was an excellent edition to the film as well. I'm not expecting much. I'll be happy if it tops Batman Begins. As good as the film was, I'm sure it's easy for Nolan & Co. to surpass it.
 
No, it is you missing the point. I said it's MY personal opinion on why WB wouldn't want to promote someone like that...

Again, I've never stated it wasn't your opinion. Nor did I sate you were director. I'm asking this as if you're part of WB's marketing team, because it's their thought process we're evaluating. I tried to simplify things with my rephrasing, but that didn't seem to work.

So now, I'm asking you, from WB's promoting perspective, what looks worse: an actress who showed off her goods in a film, or an actor who played a character that practiced mutilation and cannibalism (we'll take these two specifically from the list of other horrific acts)?

If we want to talk from a strictly sexual perspective (which you started with, stating that Eva has been in "porn" roles), then we need look no further than the fact that Patrick Batmen tells a woman to eat another woman's *******, proceeds to videotape himself having a threesome with the women in which everything but his you-know-what is exposed, and later, he kills two women after having sex with them and seemingly eating some flesh. Mmmm.

I'm not trying to start a fight, nor do I misunderstand. I get it. You don't think a woman who has been naked in a film is one that WB would not want to promote in fear of issues with the young audience (which is the minority for this new Batman franchise anyway). I'm just trying to comprehend the logic behind the marketing department fearing children finding female nudity on the internet, over finding their hero, Batman, savagely biting on a woman's leg and dropping a chainsaw on her half-naked body. That's all. I mean no further harm. :)

EDIT: I guess a real easy way to cut to the chase would be to ask, if Bale had shown his junk on screen prior to Begins, do you think there would be concern in the WB marketing department about him as Batman?

Again, you'll have to excuse my bafflement, but I'm struggling to wrap my head around these arguments. Like I said, I mean no harm.
 
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No, it is you missing the point. I said it's MY personal opinion on why WB wouldn't want to promote someone like that. Never once did I say I'd disqualify her from the role if I were the director. When an actor or actress takes part in a scene with fake blood and staged violence it seems to be accepted however if an actor or actress exposes more than what is accepted on film then that is where the controversy starts. In case I didn't make it clear, I'm not stating this as if I'd disqualify someone for a role if I were a director but it's My OPINION on why WB wouldn't want to promote someone like that. And like I said, she isn't considered for TDKR.

But I admit, Pot Pete is onto something, if what he is saying is correct. If so, then I'm officially proven wrong. Not afraid of that.

Eva Green is a tremendous actress, read up on her. Just because you view her select nudity scenes in high praise films such as The Dreamers to be pornographic does not mean that everyone does. I fail to see your logic in why WB would not want to promote a talented actress such as her. There is obviously going to be no nude scenes in TDKR so why would it even matter if she was cast as Catwoman. She would nail the sexy appeal perfectly without removing a single article of clothing.
 
Eva Green is a tremendous actress, read up on her. Just because you view her select nudity scenes in high praise films such as The Dreamers to be pornographic does not mean that everyone does. I fail to see your logic in why WB would not want to promote a talented actress such as her. There is obviously going to be no nude scenes in TDKR so why would it even matter if she was cast as Catwoman. She would nail the sexy appeal perfectly without removing a single article of clothing.

Sigh. It is MY personal opinion why WB wouldn't want to promote her. Not speaking as if I'd disqualify her if I'm the director. But like I said, the other poster (Pot Pete) made a strong point and I can admit he proved me wrong so there ya go. I don't understand why it's a HUGE deal. She isn't considered for the main female role. -_-
 
Sigh. It is MY personal opinion why WB wouldn't want to promote her. Not speaking as if I'd disqualify her if I'm the director. But like I said, the other poster (Pot Pete) made a strong point and I can admit he proved me wrong so there ya go. I don't understand why it's a HUGE deal. She isn't considered for the main female role. -_-

Excuse me for coming on a bit strong, I just strongly failed to understand your logic, but am completley aware and accept that it is your personal opinion as to why WB would NOT promote such an actress. And like I said, I strongly support Green for the role of Catwoman, so that is another reason why I was a bit defense in my earlier post.

Btw who all has been considered for a female role in this film. Cotilliard, Knightly, Mendez, and uhmm....who else:huh:
 
Excuse me for coming on a bit strong, I just strongly failed to understand your logic, but am completley aware and accept that it is your personal opinion as to why WB would NOT promote such an actress. And like I said, I strongly support Green for the role of Catwoman, so that is another reason why I was a bit defense in my earlier post.

Btw who all has been considered for a female role in this film. Cotilliard, Knightly, Mendez, and uhmm....who else:huh:

If you don't understand my logic then that's fine. I'm just trying to speak in a different perspective and obviously not everyone will see things the same way although I can understand why you'd think she qualifies. I did see a number of her films however I didn't think many people would find my original post as big of a deal as others made it out to be.
 
If you don't understand my logic then that's fine. I'm just trying to speak in a different perspective and obviously not everyone will see things the same way although I can understand why you'd think she qualifies. I did see a number of her films however I didn't think many people would find my original post as big of a deal as others made it out to be.

Well, I wasn't trying to blow anything out of proportion, I was merely expressing my opinion, which just happened to be contradictory to your's. :cwink:
 
I think there's the possibility that TDKR will be better than TDK which is the story. If it is well written, the other technical qualities will be guaranted. I understand some people's doubts because of the Joker, but there are great Batman stories without his archnemesis. That said, coming 2012 some people will prefer TDKR, others TDK and other BB. That's the way things are.

EDIT: By the way, MISTERSTRANGE, your view of Selina is wonderful. It would play really well in this series.
 
I think there's the possibility that TDKR will be better than TDK which is the story. If it is well written, the other technical qualities will be guaranted. I understand some people's doubts because of the Joker, but there are great Batman stories without his archnemesis. That said, coming 2012 some people will prefer TDKR, others TDK and other BB. That's the way things are.

EDIT: By the way, MISTERSTRANGE, your view of Selina is wonderful. It would play really well in this series.

Thanks, mate! :awesome:
Glad you agree with my take.
 
Thanks, mate! :awesome:
Glad you agree with my take.

And you already know that I too agree. Your post was the best rendition of Selina Kyle/Catwoman I've read on here and I might feel let down if she is portrayed any other way now, haha, really.
 
And you already know that I too agree. Your post was the best rendition of Selina Kyle/Catwoman I've read on here and I might feel let down if she is portrayed any other way now, haha, really.

Hahaha thanks, too, mate!:woot:
Maybe Nolan will read my post and take inspiration:wow:
Nahhh, not in a million years lol

I really am hoping that if included into the next film, Nolan gives us that serious, very down to earth character that we all at some point come to love within the comics. There's just so much that can be done with this next film that I honestly don't know what I want to see and what I don't.
 
I think there's the possibility that TDKR will be better than TDK which is the story. If it is well written, the other technical qualities will be guaranted. I understand some people's doubts because of the Joker, but there are great Batman stories without his archnemesis. That said, coming 2012 some people will prefer TDKR, others TDK and other BB. That's the way things are.

EDIT: By the way, MISTERSTRANGE, your view of Selina is wonderful. It would play really well in this series.

I very much agree with you.
 
That's really irrelevant that she was in a movie like Dreamers when she's attained far more mainstream recognition from a James Bond film and The Golden Compass, a family film.

Christian Bale played Patrick Bateman, a serial killer and rapist in a movie that featured numerous scenes of graphic sex, violence, and drug use, including Batman himself running around naked with a chainsaw.

Exactly!

Back on the topic of casting Eva Green as Selina Kyle.

Nolan is also a James Bond fan, he must have seen her in Casino Royale.
 
Can TDK be topped?

It doesnt have to be - just continue the story; Nolan doesnt need to one-up himself.
 
Can TDK be topped?

It doesnt have to be - just continue the story; Nolan doesnt need to one-up himself.
Say that to all the fanboys that will come here after seeing it ranting and raving because their expectations were to high.
 
JAK®;19470051 said:
Say that to all the fanboys that will come here after seeing it ranting and raving because their expectations were to high.

Exactly! lol
 
JAK®;19470051 said:
Say that to all the fanboys that will come here after seeing it ranting and raving because their expectations were to high.

I tend to avoid coming here for a few months after the films come out for that reason. :csad:

Prefer to have my good impressions unspoiled.
 
JAK®;19470051 said:
Say that to all the fanboys that will come here after seeing it ranting and raving because their expectations were to high.
After being disappointed with TDK, I'm going to try and not get my hopes up too high. But I know once we start getting pics, trailers, leaked info, etc, it'll be hard not to. Although, I didn't come here immediately after TDK, and rant about it. I think it took me about 3-4 months to start posting my thoughts on the film, cause I tried to figure out why I didn't like it, and everybody did.
 
After being disappointed with TDK, I'm going to try and not get my hopes up too high. But I know once we start getting pics, trailers, leaked info, etc, it'll be hard not to. Although, I didn't come here immediately after TDK, and rant about it. I think it took me about 3-4 months to start posting my thoughts on the film, cause I tried to figure out why I didn't like it, and everybody did.

What expectations of TDK weren't met for you? The only thing that seemed to disappoint me was that there was no scene of Bruce/Alfred driving up to a semi-constructed Wayne Manor. I thought they would have shown Bruce/Alfred overseeing its construction in the sequel, then have it fully rebuilt for the start of the 3rd movie. I know that Wayne Manor is being rebuilt off-screen but I really wanted to see it in TDK for some reason.
 
@jazzmatik

I would have to say that my ideal choice for Selina would be the ever stunning Eva Green.

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@MisterStrange You might very well get your wish!
 

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