I think Avengers had 5 movie buildup unless your discounting TIHAvengers has a 4 movie buildup, JL-1 will also have a four movie buildup (MoS, BvS, SS, WW) so it can make Avengers money.
It's about continuation of the story, not setting up "likeable" or "heroic" characters, which makes me feel that it can be successful.
Characters like Iron Man, Thor, Captain America needed solo movies for introduction, same thing is not really needed with Batman, one movie (MoS) and an ensemble movie (BvS) is enough for that, plus we are getting further world-building in SS and WW is getting her own solo movie, all this should be enough.
I think Avengers had 5 movie buildup unless your discounting TIH
Noooo.Avengers has a 4 movie buildup, JL-1 will also have a four movie buildup (MoS, BvS, SS, WW) so it can make Avengers money.
I never brought up whether they needed more movies to set up JL. I was just saying your logic doesn't make sense, which it doesn't.No, not discounting TIH, I just forgot to include Iron Man 2, though it was released before Avengers.
So, a 5 movie build-up leading to Avengers, still DC's 4 movies seem enough, I mean what more is needed ?
Is a solo Batman movie a must before Justice League movie, people are familiar with Batman character plus they will see him again in SS movie after BvS.
In fact with Amanda Waller and other villains from SS (where we may see Lex Luthor again.) they are also setting up villains nicely.
If you think that my logic doesn't work or that Build up doesn't mean jack / brand means everything, you are entitled to your opinion.
Noooo.
I respectfully disagree.
I'm a defender of MOS and BvS. Both are films that are flawed but have enough goodness. Yet it seems the general public shrugged their shoulders to both films.
I think JL can do over a billion, as long as it is lighter and actually crowd pleasing. But 1.6 like 2012's The Avengers? No way in hell. Audiences don't seem as receptive to these characters as say Marvel's.
Which characters ? If WW and SS do well, that would mean WW and Batman are still popular as they feature in those two movies, so who is left behind ? Superman ?
Is audience not willing to see Superman again ? I doubt that.
Every thing depends on WW and SS movie now, if those movies are successful, I can see JL-1 making 1.6 bil.
Squad really has no direct influence to Justice League. Sure, it is connected. But nothing in that film will gauge people's excitement for JL.
Which characters ? If WW and SS do well, that would mean WW and Batman are still popular as they feature in those two movies, so who is left behind ? Superman ?
Is audience not willing to see Superman again ? I doubt that.
Every thing depends on WW and SS movie now, if those movies are successful, I can see JL-1 making 1.6 bil.
Can Justice League be as huge? No. For a couple of reasons.
The initial Avengers movie was if anything an over achievement. So much so that even it's sequel, which was a success as well, couldn't even match the heights of the initial movie. As it's been pointed out, I'd be highly surprised if any of the remaining Avengers movies actually surpass their original in terms of money or popularity.
Another reason why Justice League I don't feel will be as successful is simple, DC & WB have tried to create in 2 movies, what Marvel created over I believe it was 5 movies: A universe. That's one of the reasons why the initial Avengers was so much of an overachiever. It brought together people that liked Iron Man 1 & 2 , Hulk, Thor, Captain America. I'm sure comic fans would have seen it regardless but there are general audience members that would have seen maybe one of those movies, liked it & thought I'll go see Avengers since xyz is in it. The Marvel universe is also I'd say more children friendly, Man of Steel & BvS carry more of an adult tone I feel, both films take themselves more seriously than I feel they probably should.
DC went about it all wrong, Man of Steel I feel gave the universe a credible opening, they should have then went with a sole Batman movie establishing the Batman of this universe with the ending of that movie being what was the start of Batman vs Superman ie Bruce being in Metropolis during the Superman/Zod confrontation. Then add in a Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash solo movies with perhaps cameos from Batman, Superman or even just acknowledging in some capacity that they exist in the same universe THEN Justice League should have come.
Batman vs Superman really could have launched the universe in 1 movie & completely caught up to Marvel which is no doubt what they wanted to do cutting all the corners in the process, the angle had so much promise but they really did just try to do too much, too soon focusing more on trying to cram all sorts of information in 1 movie to establish things rather than focusing on just trying to make it good.
The DCU is still salvageable I feel as despite all BvS's flaws & disappointing ending, the ending itself despite how it was executed has left me with anticipation on what will happen next.. but I'd honestly be surprised if Justice League will be able to be as 'huge' as the Avengers. It's actually not something that concerns me, as long as I find the movies enjoyable I couldn't care less if the critics dislike them or they don't make as much money as the Marvel counterpart.