Captain Marvel Captain Marvel General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[Tg11]

Winnick believe it or not if she is cast as Captain Marvel personally I wouldn't have a problem with it because she is lesser known than all the other ladies who are vying for the role but also at the same time looks-wise she's perfect for Carol but does she have the personality to match

 

[MbJ]

I don't think you have to worry about that, to be honest. The MCU doesn't usually try to go for A-list actors for their leads like that.

 

[Tg11]

Yeah you do have a point but if they cast Winnick as Carol though then I think it is good strategy to go with a lesser known actress in the role because then by doing that it basically makes her into an even bigger star going forward

 

[Mike5575]

Winnick believe it or not if she is cast as Captain Marvel personally I wouldn't have a problem with it because she is lesser known than all the other ladies who are vying for the role but also at the same time looks-wise she's perfect for Carol but does she have the personality to match

She's freaking fantastic in that Vikings show as Lagertha and at 5'6, she's a respectable enough height to land the role. Cast Jlaw as CM, and Lord Feige help us all!

Winnick oozes badassery and charm in a way that Jlaw never could.

 

[Tg11]

Now that I think about it I really think about it Winnick she is perfect especially seeing her in terms of overall look but also watching her on Vikings she would be perfect as Carol/Captain Marvel

But who will be the villain for Carol's origin film? Now that is the million dollar question

 

[cph9fa]

With the recent GOTGv2 casting of

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Nathan Fillion as Simon Williams

how would people feel about that character showing up in Captain Marvel? IIRC, they have some history in the comics.

And yes, I realize that was probably just for an Easter egg. Still....

 

[Jay Beezy]

With the recent GOTGv2 casting of

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Nathan Fillion as Simon Williams

how would people feel about that character showing up in Captain Marvel? IIRC, they have some history in the comics.

And yes, I realize that was probably just for an Easter egg. Still....

They should get

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David Boreanaz as Eric Williams.

 

[MbJ]

With the recent GOTGv2 casting of

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Nathan Fillion as Simon Williams

how would people feel about that character showing up in Captain Marvel? IIRC, they have some history in the comics.

And yes, I realize that was probably just for an Easter egg. Still....

It's unlikely for the same reason I said Jessica Drew is unlikely. In an origin movie about Carol Danvers, they aren't gonna overload it with other superhero characters.

 

[Loki882]

I still think that there's a chance for War Machine to show up as a fellow military colleague. As for the villain, I'm thinking Yon-Rogg and the Kree myself.

 

[MbJ]

I still think that there's a chance for War Machine to show up as a fellow military colleague.

That's because he's an existing character the audience already knows well. It's like Falcon in Ant-Man. You don't need to waste time explaining who he is because there's an assumption that the audience knows who he is already.

 

[Havok83]

you're assuming they would do it as some big role. They could introduce any number of new characters in this as a very minor part like they did with Clint Barton in Thor's origin film. A brief intro doesnt need much explaining but it helps set up said character for their future appearance

 

[Jake Cassidy]

^ Clint, not Cliff.

 

[MbJ]

you're assuming they would do it as some big role.

Well, yes. Because they were suggesting the character in question from Guardians 2 would have some part in this movie, not saying it'd just be a cameo.

Hawkeye doesn't need explaining. He's some SHIELD guy who has a bow. All you really need to know is right there. Someone like the character being discussed is not the sort of character you'd drop in for 30 seconds of screen time and then not explain.

 

[Tg11]

Then how about the Guardians showing up in her solo origin film? I mean it would make sense given that Star Lord, Gamora, Drax, Groot and or Rocket are practically of the same universe as Carol in the sense of the Kree connection

 

[Havok83]

Well, yes. Because they were suggesting the character in question from Guardians 2 would have some part in this movie, not saying it'd just be a cameo.

Hawkeye doesn't need explaining. He's some SHIELD guy who has a bow. All you really need to know is right there. Someone like the character being discussed is not the sort of character you'd drop in for 30 seconds of screen time and then not explain.

You also threw in Jessica Drew in your post and mentioned overloading the film with "other superheroes". Jessica could easily serve a similar purpose as Hawkeye

 

[MbJ]

You also threw in Jessica Drew in your post and mentioned overloading the film with "other superheroes".

And I stand by that. Spider-Woman isn't Hawkeye. You don't just throw her in for a cameo and not explain what is going on with her or who she is.

Then how about the Guardians showing up in her solo origin film? I mean it would make sense given that Star Lord, Gamora, Drax, Groot and or Rocket are practically of the same universe as Carol in the sense of the Kree connection

That's even worse. Why do you want a whole team of popular heroes distracting focus from the origin of the protagonist? It'd be like if instead of fighting Falcon, Ant-Man had the entire Avengers in the cast as supporting players.

 

[Mike5575]

Now that I think about it I really think about it Winnick she is perfect especially seeing her in terms of overall look but also watching her on Vikings she would be perfect as Carol/Captain Marvel

But who will be the villain for Carol's origin film? Now that is the million dollar question

Here's a good Tumblr post about that very question:

http://marvel-feed.tumblr.com/post/143226578189/who-do-you-think-the-villain-should-be-in-the

They've already had gravitonium on AOS, but Moonstone and Yon-Rhogg would make excelent choices for villains, though I'd rather Marvel sticks with Yon-Rhogg and the Kree. Since her origins are tied to the Kree, it would only make sense for the antagonist of her origin story be a Kree.

They could also use Doctor Minerva. She had some kind of creepy romantic interest in Mar-Vell. Maybe she ends up killing Mar-Vell because she's jealous of Mar-Vell's and Carol's close friendship. She thinks Carol poisoned Mar-Vell against his own kind. This could be a bad idea if not handled correctly, though.

Another idea is using one of the members of The Black Order such as Proxima Midnight. Though, Marvel would probably want to introduce a villain that is unique to Carol.

 

[Double B]

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Ugh Nathan Fillion.

Ugh.

 

[Mike5575]

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Ugh Nathan Fillion.

Ugh.

I don't like Wonder Man, so I could care less.

 

[Havok83]

Here's a good Tumblr post about that very question:

http://marvel-feed.tumblr.com/post/143226578189/who-do-you-think-the-villain-should-be-in-the

They've already had gravitonium on AOS, but Moonstone and Yon-Rhogg would make excelent choices for villains, though I'd rather Marvel sticks with Yon-Rhogg and the Kree. Since her origins are tied to the Kree, it would only make sense for the antagonist of her origin story be a Kree.

They could also use Doctor Minerva. She had some kind of creepy romantic interest in Mar-Vell. Maybe she ends up killing Mar-Vell because she's jealous of Mar-Vell's and Carol's close friendship. She thinks Carol poisoned Mar-Vell against his own kind. This could be a bad idea if not handled correctly, though.

Another idea is using one of the members of The Black Order such as Proxima Midnight. Though, Marvel would probably want to introduce a villain that is unique to Carol.

It most definitely should not be Moonstone. She seems like someone you'd save for a sequel. Especially with her being very similar to Carol, they could play off the contrast between the two once she has been established as her own character and developed as a hero. Plus Moonstone really has nothing to do with her origin so I dont see how they can shoehorn her in or try to attempt to fix her into it. It wouldnt do Carol or Moonstone justice as I think Moonstone should be saved for a more grounded plot and not one with heavy cosmic elements. They could skip the whole Kree aspect and give her powers from another source but that seems like a waste as this is definitely one element that differentiates her from the other heroes

And I stand by that. Spider-Woman isn't Hawkeye. You don't just throw her in for a cameo and not explain what is going on with her or who she is.

you are focusing on Spider-Woman though. I mentioned Jessica. Barton didnt appear as Hawkeye in Thor's film. Im not expecting her to fly in and blast people, but a brief intro in civilian form setting her up as an agent would work and be enough before she is properly introduced as a superheroine, Spider-Woman in an Avengers or whatever other film they'd use her. That does not require a whole lot of explaining. She can get powered up and receive an origin elsewhere

 

[Mike5575]

It most definitely should not be Moonstone. She seems like someone you'd save for a sequel. Especially with her being very similar to Carol, they could play off the contrast between the two once she has been established as her own character and developed as a hero. Plus Moonstone really has nothing to do with her origin so I dont see how they can shoehorn her in or try to attempt to fix her into it. It wouldnt do Carol or Moonstone justice as I think Moonstone should be saved for a more grounded plot and not one with heavy cosmic elements. They could skip the whole Kree aspect and give her powers from another source but that seems like a waste as this is definitely one element that differentiates her from the other heroes

I agree! Moonstone could make a great villain for CM2, but for her origin, they should focus on the Kree. Carol could get her powers from an infinity stone, but it could also change her to a powerful half-Kree Warrior! It would be a missed opportunity if Marvel didn't include the Kree in her origin. Maybe they can have Carol take Mar-Vell's memories and she has an arc where she's struggling with the other alien half of her as she starts mumbling Kree words and phrases like "Hala!" or "Great Pama!"

 

[MbJ]

Barton didnt appear as Hawkeye in Thor's film.

He wasn't called Hawkeye but he was still a dude with a bow. That's Hawkeye.

Im not expecting her to fly in and blast people, but a brief intro in civilian form setting her up as an agent would work and be enough before she is properly introduced as a superheroine, Spider-Woman in an Avengers or whatever other film they'd use her. That does not require a whole lot of explaining. She can get powered up and receive an origin elsewhere

Maybe, but I really don't see that happening either. And regardless, that's why I specified superhero characters in the first post. Obviously a civilian Jessica Drew would be less invasive or distracting than having her flying around in red spandex, but I'm not convinced they'll go that route either.

 

[Tg11]

As for who I would go with as the villain for Carol's solo origin film I would go with Deathbird

 

[Havok83]

As for who I would go with as the villain for Carol's solo origin film I would go with Deathbird

she'd be great but they may not have the rights to use her bc she's tied to the X-men. I know she debuted in a Ms. Marvel comic but her entire history and backstory is tied with the X-line. You would need to be able to use the Shi'ar for a film with Deathbird and they are with FOX.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't like Wonder Man, so I could care less.

How much less could you care than you care already? Another 20% less?