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The Last Jedi Carrie Fisher as Leia Organa (VIII)

Again I feel like everyone jumps to the two extremes of either writing her out or pure CGI. You can do body doubles and use unused footage edited as a possibility as well. JJ is known for filming way more than he needs we know there is lots of deleted unused footage with Leia in his film, and with Rian it may be the same. I could see it being a mixture of a little of all of these things.
 
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Great picture. They truly embody the attitudes of their characters haha.
 
No I don't agree. Yes, I don't want to see "fake Leia" for an entire movie, it's awkward and uncomfortable and distracting. This whole well growing obsession with CGI-ing people to look like other people, or to get around DEATH, is just not something I'm in favor of.

Yes, it would be more respectful to write her out and have her death mean something story. And it's been done before.

She's such a huge character an off-screen death would be bizarre. No matter what they do, IX is going to be very, very strange. Probably to the point where it won't be considered the best one. Either she dies offscreen and the arc they've been building for Kylo fizzles out, or they switch the arc and viewers will notice and there'll be a weak alternate arc that doesn't really hold up well under examination, or they CGI her in and people complain about how weird she sounds or looks.

The best solution is to have her in IX through body doubles, footage if any can be used, and CGI like in Rogue One. But minimize her scenes. Reduce the role, but still continue with whatever they had planned. In spirit, if not exactly. If she is to die in a conflict with Kylo, they should still do that, but maybe avoid really close-up shots of her face during it. I think it'd be hard to have a powerful emotional moment with a CGI human, so that will probably have to change.

But the story deserves to have Leia and Kylo's arc completed.
 
But the problem with that is we simply don't know if Kylo is even supposed to have an arc with Leia. This is all fan speculation or what some fans want to see. It doesn't mean that's what Rian and co have planned. I suspect Kylo's arc belongs with Rey, to be quite honest. Of course, I could be just as wrong. None of us knows what they have in mind for EP 8 and 9.

With that said, if the rumours are true that Leia is put in a coma for most of EP 8, then if they wanted to, they could have her succumb to her injuries and die, never having her wake up. Luke could be brought in to visit her and he enters the room she's in, and looks at her for a few sad, quiet moments. Then the door slides shut behind him. Some time can pass and when he emerges from the room again, he looks at Rey and co and we're all now made aware Leia didn't make it. If the rumour is true she's in a coma, it'll actually be quite easy to have Leia pass away in the film.

Or, like others have said, we can have Leia appear in video transmissions or holograms for future scenes to disguise any unused shots with a very light blend of CGI to get away with it looking current. Disney and Lucasfilm actually have quite a few options at their disposal. I feel like everyone is making it seem like there's nothing anyone can do, but that's simply not the case at all.

Personally, I don't mind either way if they keep her alive or allow her to die in either film. Because Carrie has passed away in real life, and in such a recent time before the next film, I won't be upset with any option they chose to do to be honest.
 
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But the problem with that is we simply don't know if Kylo is even supposed to have an arc with Leia. This is all fan speculation or what some fans want to see. It doesn't mean that's what Rian and co have planned. I suspect Kylo's arc belongs with Rey, to be quite honest. Of course, I could be just as wrong. None of us knows what they have in mind for EP 8 and 9.

With that said, if the rumours are true that Leia is put in a coma for most of EP 8, then if they wanted to, they could have her succumb to her injuries and die, never having her wake up. Luke could be brought in to visit her and he enters the room she's in, and looks at her for a few sad, quiet moments. Then the door slides shut behind him. Some time can pass and when he emerges from the room again, he looks at Rey and co and we're all now made aware Leia didn't make it. If the rumour is true she's in a coma, it'll actually be quite easy to have Leia pass away in the film.

Or, like others have said, we can have Leia appear in video transmissions or holograms for future scenes to disguise any unused shots with a very light blend of CGI to get away with it looking current. Disney and Lucasfilm actually have quite a few options at their disposal. I feel like everyone is making it seem like there's nothing anyone can do, but that's simply not the case at all.

Personally, I don't mind either way if they keep her alive or allow her to die in either film. Because Carrie has passed away in real life, and in such a recent time before the next film, I won't be upset with any option they chose to do to be honest.

I will say that was very well put.
 
It's hard to speculate without knowing where things are going to stand at the end of VIII. It's going to be a much easier fix if Leia's story takes the sort of direction where she doesn't have to be around much in IX. On the other hand, if it's implied that she was supposed to have a major role in the final movie, one that required her to have several scenes, that's going to be a much bigger problem.
 
I can't imagine any scenario where Leia wouldn't have some type of scene/arc with Kylo though.
 
I can't imagine any scenario where Leia wouldn't have some type of scene/arc with Kylo though.

Pretty much because if you take away his parentage he may lose some depth to him that was obviously a big thing in episode 7 and even with luke being the uncle it won't be as impactful as having his mother there.

I mean obviously we don't know what they will do with her in Episode 8 so we are just assuming her purpose as kylos mother was to be more impactful.
 
They have a lot of freedom to do what they want with Kylo Ren with or without Leia in the picture.

For all we know, Kylo could return to Snoke and voice his regrets about killing Han (or try and hide his regrets but Snoke knows otherwise). Maybe Kylo even bargains with Snoke to keep his mother alive. "Please, whatever you do to the Resistence or to the Republic, please keep my mother safe!". In which case Snoke would agree, only to have Leia killed (or put into that rumoured coma) behind Kylo's back to fully seal his decent to the dark side 100%.

But, as a twist for both the audience and Snoke, Leia's death could drive Kylo so mad, he tries to kill Snoke and denounces the First Order and goes rogue.

Welcome to EP 9, where we now have the Republic + Resistence (though at this point I'd assume there would be no use for the Resistence since the Republic is now fully involved in the conflict) vs the First Order vs Kylo Ren, who is now killing both Republic AND First Order people. Maybe Rey and co must now join forces with Kylo to defeat the First Order and the Republic whose interests aren't any better at this point. Until they succeeded enough where Kylo and Rey will now have no choice to face each other one last time.

Carrie Fisher's passing, however sad and unfortunate it may be (believe me, I've shed many tears and am still very upset about it) may actually force Lucasfilm/Disney to improve upon their story and take some more risks.
 
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I am assuming they want to wrap all 9 movies into an underlining continued package and not have episode 9 jump out into an almost disconnected path away from the other movies so unless leia doesn't make it out of episode 8 it hard to just not have her there for episode 9.

Its even possible obi wan will continue to have an important part even in this new trilogy for example.
 
If Leia goes into a coma in VIII, then I guess her role in IX was going to be even less screen time than she had in VII. She's irreplaceable. Luckily, filming has been done. Depending what the storyline is they may need to reshoot, or they may not. I think the biggest changes will be to IX. I hope they don't cheapen it. I don't care if this sounds like fan service, but they need to keep Luke alive in IX in some way, considering the circumstances even as a character to honor what his sister and brother-in-law would've wanted to happen to Ben.
 
Is recasting an option or is that completely off the table? I know it seems blasphemous but if Leia was really supposed to have a huge role in IX they might not be able to write her out.
 
Oh they will in a few years with a younger version especially after Han Solo makes money. They had a Boba Fett movie also ready to go but they bet on the wrong guy. So I am sure a young Luke & Leia & the rest of The Original Trilogy will come soon enough. Since Kathleen Kennedy can not escape from The Original Trilogy era I expect most of The Original Trilogy cast to be re cast for more movies in between The Original Trilogy movies & maybe get one shortly after Return Of The Jedi. Unless Kathleen Kennedy announces that due to Carries death they will move on from The Original Trilogy I fully expect more young versions down the line after Han Solo makes money
 
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The only way Leia will be recast if to have a younger version of pre-episode 4

i am expecting any gaps in between 6 to 7 to be filled by an animated show after rebels
 
i am expecting any gaps in between 6 to 7 to be filled by an animated show after rebels

You think that will stop them from doing Live Action younger versions ? Trust me after Han Solo makes money we are likely just gonna get another trilogy with just the younger versions of everybody in The Original Trilogy. Id love to be wrong but after Han Solo is a success thats whats gonna happen & I certainly have no interest in supporting lazy ass ideas like that Star Wars is bigger than one or two timelines
 
Is recasting an option or is that completely off the table? I know it seems blasphemous but if Leia was really supposed to have a huge role in IX they might not be able to write her out.

At this point I think there are several options on the table. Regardless of what they decide to do, a segment of fans are gonna be upset , but they're just gonna have to deal with it.

I don't think a recast is likely unless she truly is the key to saga films beyond episode 9, ala Dumbledore in the Potter saga.
 
I don't think a recast is likely unless she truly is the key to saga films beyond episode 9, ala Dumbledore in the Potter saga.

At the very least Dumbledore could hide most of his face with that hair & clothes recasting or CGIing Leia especially so damn soon is a disgrace
 
Oh they will in a few years with a younger version especially after Han Solo makes money. They had a Boba Fett movie also ready to go but they bet on the wrong guy. So I am sure a young Luke & Leia & the rest of The Original Trilogy will come soon enough. Since Kathleen Kennedy can not escape from The Original Trilogy era I expect most of The Original Trilogy cast to be re cast for more movies in between The Original Trilogy movies & maybe get one shortly after Return Of The Jedi. Unless Kathleen Kennedy announces that due to Carries death they will move on from The Original Trilogy I fully expect more young versions down the line after Han Solo makes money

Han Solo will make money simply because it is a Star Wars movie, but I am not sold on that it will be one of their best money making movies. I could see it making the least money out of all of the movies produced so far under Disney. Primary because an actor who isn't Harrison Ford will turn some off, and it might just generally feel like a underwhelming plot in comparison to the other films. My hope is they won't stay stuck on recasting characters and actually go to the PT and ST eras and start doing spin offs and not waste time while the original actors age. Bringing back characters like Obi Wan, Anakin, and Windu would be awesome and it can still be done without the need to recast, but that window isn't going to always be there.

Personally I have very little interest in the Han Solo spin off and I'm not sure if the possibility of Boba Fett fan-service will be enough to get me excited.
 
At the very least Dumbledore could hide most of his face with that hair & clothes recasting or CGIing Leia especially so damn soon is a disgrace

Whatever they end up doing down the line some group of people aren't going to be pleased or satisfied. They're aren't gonna please everyone and some people's feelings are going to be hurt regardless of what they decide.

At this point, the question for me personally, as a long time fan , is how they execute whatever decision they come to, i.e. CG, Unused footage, recast, written out,etc.

However they do it, I personally hope its tasteful and respectful.
 
Is recasting an option or is that completely off the table? I know it seems blasphemous but if Leia was really supposed to have a huge role in IX they might not be able to write her out.

I know you mean well with the question, but I'd say heck no. I'm not big on the CGI route either, but I think I could accept that even a little more.
 

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