Clash of the Titans Remake

[Aesop Rocks]

You mean SeXymen?

 

[That-Guy]

I saw Sam Worthington's Australian stuff and he's pretty much always the same. His acting style hasn't changed much over the years. He doesn't have the chameleon-like quality that Bale has. He's not a character actor at all. I can't imagine him doing something like American Psycho or The Machinist. I just don't think he has the acting chops. He's perfectly fine in stuff like TS or Avatar. But let's be honest, those roles were hardly acting showcases. He's got two non-action movies coming out next year, but they're ensemble pieces which don't really feature him. I think he's fine being the action guy. Maybe he wants to be the next Bruce Willis. He's around Bruce Willis level, acting wise.

Yeah, everything I've seen Worthington in, he's been "okay" but I still fail to observe this amazing acting talent that some people have deluded themselves into seeing. He was alright in Terminator and Avatar, but like you said, those weren't the most challenging roles. Plus that uneven accent thing is really annoying. At least in Clash of the Titans, he doesn't have to attempt an American accent again, so it shouldn't be so irritating.

I think people just lash out at Bale because Terminator Salvation was a bad movie and his character was poorly written. I also think Worthington's character was poorly written, but since Bale had already been slammed by the media for his on-set rant, they decided to make him the scapegoat. When in actuality, the real culprit was McG.

 

[terry78]

Worthington is shaping up to be that next big action star, basically...not doing nuanced ****. His aspiration right now seems like to reach where Will Smith is.

 

[That-Guy]

I think that statement's a little premature. He's being cast in movies that people are going to see regardless of who is in it. No one went to see Terminator Salvation to see Worthington. No one went to see Avatar to see him, and people will go to see Clash of the Titans because they want to see the friggin' Kraken and the Medusa. Not Worthington.

You could argue that many of Will Smith's earlier films were successful for the same types of scenarios, but I would have to disagree. Bad Boys was a success, largely because of his comedic timing. Men in Black hinged on this as well. Independence Day's success was more about people wanting to see an alien attack film, but Smith was also a key part of the draw. And now, his films tend to be successful, largely due to the fact that people really like the guy.

Worthington may achieve this at some point, but he's not there yet... not even close.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Worthington is just starting out remember. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't just want to do action roles all his life. But like many, many actors before him, he's getting his feet wet in action roles. That's not a problem.

As far as his ability? I think he was the best thing in Salvation. I can forgive his accent slips here and there because I thought he was pretty decent apart from the odd occasion. He was more watchable than Bale, that's for sure.

 

[TLH]

Release the Kraken!

That part was awesome.

 

[That-Guy]

Worthington is just starting out remember. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't just want to do action roles all his life. But like many, many actors before him, he's getting his feet wet in action roles. That's not a problem.

As far as his ability? I think he was the best thing in Salvation. I can forgive his accent slips here and there because I thought he was pretty decent apart from the odd occasion. He was more watchable than Bale, that's for sure.

I think you've been brainwashed by the Anti-Bale-ists. Neither of them were great in that movie, nor were they bad. They just... were. Why? Because the movie was bad and not even the greatest actor in cinema could have made me give a crap about most of those characters. They only person I thought stood out and was written pretty well was Yelchin. The others... Bale was reduced to listening to a tape recorder and performing ludicrous stunts like diving off of an airplane into the ocean in the middle of a storm. Worthington just walked around and acted like a dick to everyone.

 

[CelticPredator]

Christ, is it possible for anyone on Earth to talk about Worthington without reminding us how much they thought Christian Bale sucked and "just yelled the whole time" in Terminator Salvation?

Until I see Worthington deliver HALF the performance that Bale did in American Psycho, Batman Begins, TDK, The Machinist, Harsh Times, Rescue Dawn, Velvet Goldmine, Laurel Canyon, Equilibrium, 3:10 to Yuma, The Prestige or Empire of the Sun, he isn't worthly to lick Bale's boots.

It's ridiculous how suddenly an actor "sucks" just because he does something that people don't like (the rant). Look at what happened to Tom Cruise.

But he did suck. He was terrible in Salvation. You see, when an actor gets WORSE...then somethings wrong here. I'm waiting for Bale to have his comeback. Because I really do like him.

Worthington on the other hand.... he's an awesome action star.

 

[protocida]

Good God, why must everyone who likes Worthington be anti-Bale? Why must everyone who likes Bale be anti-Worthington? Can't people have their own opinions anymore?

Anyway, I tough Worthington was as good, if not better, than Bale in Terminator Salvation. I found his character arc stronger than Bale's, and I think he'll do great in Clash of the Titans. And I don't hear as much accent-slips as its said. Really.

 

[That-Guy]

But he did suck. He was terrible in Salvation. You see, when an actor gets WORSE...then somethings wrong here. I'm waiting for Bale to have his comeback. Because I really do like him.

Worthington on the other hand.... he's an awesome action star.

As The Dude would say, that's just like, your opinion, man. I honestly don't think he sucked. His character arc sucked. Supposedly he had some say in that, so yeah, you could blame Bale in that regard... he's probably not a great writer. But acting-wise, he did fine with what he had to work with, which frankly, wasn't much.

As for Worthington being an awesome action star... the jury's still out on that one, at least for me. He's not even really a "star" yet if you think about it. Go up to a random person on the street and ask them who Sam Worthington is. They probably will have no idea until you say, "the guy from Terminator and Avatar." Then there will probably be some recognition.

And I'm not saying that he has to be famous to prove that he's a good actor... it's just that people on these boards are cracking him up to be more than he really is.

 

[Figs]

But he did suck. He was terrible in Salvation. You see, when an actor gets WORSE...then somethings wrong here. I'm waiting for Bale to have his comeback. Because I really do like him.

Worthington on the other hand.... he's an awesome action star.

He doesn't need a comeback because of one dud. Usually when an actor needs a comeback it's because they made **** film after **** film and fell off the celebrity map(see where Nicholas Cage is heading if he's not already there).

I agree about Worthington though. I don't think he's that great of an actor from the two films I've seen him in but as a future action star, he's definitely looking good. Can't wait for CotT.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I think you've been brainwashed by the Anti-Bale-ists. Neither of them were great in that movie, nor were they bad. They just... were. Why? Because the movie was bad and not even the greatest actor in cinema could have made me give a crap about most of those characters. They only person I thought stood out and was written pretty well was Yelchin. The others... Bale was reduced to listening to a tape recorder and performing ludicrous stunts like diving off of an airplane into the ocean in the middle of a storm. Worthington just walked around and acted like a dick to everyone.

I'm a fan of Bale. I'm certainly not anti Bale and I'm not a sheep.

But for me, Worthington and Yelchin were more watchable than Bale. All Bale did was look angry all the time and shout like Batman.

 

[scifiwolf]

I think Bale's...wait...I know Bale's performance in TS was a product of the writers and the director, not Bale. For what the role was, I thought Bale's performance was on par with the rest of the cast. I think Reese and Marcus were just more compelling characters in the story, that's all.

 

[That-Guy]

Exactly. They wrote a movie about Marcus Wright and Kyle Reese with Connor as a background character and then realized that the Connor should have been the main character for once, so they tried to fit him into the story and it didn't work.

They should have scrapped that stupid script and started from scratch. It would have taken longer but we would have gotten a better film.

As for the "Batman" complaints... please. He wasn't doing his Batman voice in that movie... he was gruff, but that's how his American accent sounds, usually, except when he tries to sound more refined, like in American Psycho. And even there it still sounded a bit throaty. Otherwise, I guess he was also doing his Batman voice in The Machinist.

As for him yelling... gee, maybe that had something to do with the fact that most of the movie took place on a battlefield? I know he also yelled at Marcus when he had him captive, but anyone who has ever watched an interrogation scene knows that it's not uncommon for the interrogator to yell.

Anyway though, I've driven this thread way off topic, so sorry about that..

 

[Project862006]

i thought bale was awful in terminator as well yes he was poorly written but he was poorly acted as well and it has nothing to do with his rant.

 

[Nina7]

Yeah, what That-Guy said.

I saw Worthington in Macbeth and Somersault, his two most famous Australian movies and I wasn't really impressed with either performance. I saw Macbeth for Lachy Hulme cuz I thought he was going to be the next Joker and Hulme is the best thing about that terrible movie. Worthington was possibly the worst Macbeth I've ever seen. He was bad. In Somersault, he played a secondary character to Abbie Cornish's character and he was okay in a nondemanding role. I have no idea why he won the AFI Best Actor award for that. Maybe Australia doesn't have a lot of competition? I just find it really surprising that he's being hailed as the next great actor when I haven't seen anything really good from him, even his non-action roles. I see more as the next Gerald Butler, not the next Russell Crowe/Mel Gibson. Gibson was really good in Gallipoli and charismatic as hell in Mad Max before he hit it big. Crowe was amazing in Romper Stomper and wonderful in Proof before he hit America's shore. Worthington doesn't have those type of strong performances in Austrailia to justify the hype. I find his ascendance kinda puzzling. Having said all that, I'm sure he'll be fine in Clash of the Titans.

 

[RKO]

But he did suck. He was terrible in Salvation. You see, when an actor gets WORSE...then somethings wrong here. I'm waiting for Bale to have his comeback. Because I really do like him.

Worthington on the other hand.... he's an awesome action star.

He did have a comeback, it was called Public Enemies.

 

[protocida]

I found his performance in Terminator Salvation very strong. I haven't seen Avatar yet, but I also heard good things about his role there.

 

[That-Guy]

Yeah, what That-Guy said.

I saw Worthington in Macbeth and Somersault, his two most famous Australian movies and I wasn't really impressed with either performance. I saw Macbeth for Lachy Hulme cuz I thought he was going to be the next Joker and Hulme is the best thing about that terrible movie. Worthington was possibly the worst Macbeth I've ever seen. He was bad. In Somersault, he played a secondary character to Abbie Cornish's character and he was okay in a nondemanding role. I have no idea why he won the AFI Best Actor award for that. Maybe Australia doesn't have a lot of competition? I just find it really surprising that he's being hailed as the next great actor when I haven't seen anything really good from him, even his non-action roles. I see more as the next Gerald Butler, not the next Russell Crowe/Mel Gibson. Gibson was really good in Gallipoli and charismatic as hell in Mad Max before he hit it big. Crowe was amazing in Romper Stomper and wonderful in Proof before he hit America's shore. Worthington doesn't have those type of strong performances in Austrailia to justify the hype. I find his ascendance kinda puzzling. Having said all that, I'm sure he'll be fine in Clash of the Titans.

Glad someone sees eye-to-eye with me on this. LOL, I haven't seen him in MacBeth but now I have to check that out. I love watching bad Shakespeare productions because they're hilarious. Have you ever seen Ethan Hawke's Hamlet? That has to be one of the most unintentially funny movies I've ever seen. Watching Hamlet deliver his "to be or not to be" soliloquy via a voice over (can we say lazy?) in the middle of a friggin' Blockbuster Video had me laughing my ass off.

 

[Jick]

I found his performance in Terminator Salvation very strong. I haven't seen Avatar yet, but I also heard good things about his role there.

Me too. I don't get what's the problem with Bale in TS.

 

[That-Guy]

Me too. I don't get what's the problem with Bale in TS.

Just the product of negative publicity.

 

[Project862006]

that has nothing to do why we hated bale in TS and you know it

 

[TheVileOne]

I was just underwhelmed by Bale's performance. It was a one-note, weak version of John Connor.

I mean all actors make mistakes. Bale's a great performer, but he should NOT have taken this role.

 

[Schlosser85]

I haven't gotten to see Avatar and won't until next week (hopefully not later than that) because it's crazy at work leading up to Christmas.

I thought Christian Bale was perfectly fine in Terminator Salvation for what he had to work with, which was very little. For those who say he yelled a lot.....well, he was a military commander in almost-constant battle, should he have whispered? And I don't think he talked like Batman. It was one of his more forgettable roles, but I think most of the blame lies with the half-assed way his role was written. He didn't really have any material to stand out with.

My personal verdict is still out on Sam Worthington. I haven't seen any of his earlier Australian stuff. In Terminator Salvation I thought he just kind of "there". Not "bad", but I also don't see what he did that was so exceptional and attention-getting like people make out. So far he seems like a bland one-note action hero type to me.

However, as I said, I have not seen Avatar yet, and I will hopefully be able to make a little more judgment on his acting abilities afterwards.

But from TS and even the Avatar trailer it's obvious Worthington can't keep up an American accent for two sentences, and it makes him sound kind of like a lazy actor.

 

[XxDelta09xX]

He did have a comeback, it was called Public Enemies.

Agreed.t: