Contest of Marvels II Thread 1

[wiegeabo]

Final Results:

Human torch beat Gravity 8-4
Joseph beat Fu Manchu 8-4
Kid Omega beat Harvest 67-5
Ares beat Ranark The Ravager 12-0

67-5!?!

I call shenanigans!

 

[JewishHobbit]

Wow... Kid Omega just took a giant leap in votes!

 

[wiegeabo]

Wow... Kid Omega just took a giant leap in votes!

Damn mind control. Making people vote for him.

 

[hippy fascist]

excellent match harlekin, you were indeed a worthy opponent

I have to admit that if I ws neutral I would have voted for gravity

 

[JewishHobbit]

Damn mind control. Making people vote for him.

Breaking the third wall is obviously against the rules... Kid Omega is disqualified. Congradulations Harvest.

 

[Phaedrus45]

ha ha, bloody ha

what a bunch of comedians we have here.

 

[Harlekin]

HARLEKIN SMASH!

Nah, great match Hippy. You did well, and the Torch deserved it. If it weren't for this little match, I wouldn't have given Gravity a snowball's chance in hell.

 

[hippy fascist]

HARLEKIN SMASH!

Nah, great match Hippy. You did well, and the Torch deserved it. If it weren't for this little match, I wouldn't have given Gravity a snowball's chance in hell.

There was a way you could have taken him out easily and I just spent the whole debate praying you didn't work it out...


Torch needs oxygen for his powers to work. Wrap him in a forcefield bubble and suddenly his oxygen would burn out in seconds rendering him harmless. Whether he could pull it off is debatable but I'm just glad it never came up

 

[Harlekin]

Heh, I actually did think of that, but I figured I couldn't possibly be able to debate that convincingly. We've never seen him do anything like a forcefield bubble that localized, and although I haven't read Beyond yet, he's never made a forcefield bubble at all.

 

[hippy fascist]

Heh, I actually did think of that, but I figured I couldn't possibly be able to debate that convincingly. We've never seen him do anything like a forcefield bubble that localized, and although I haven't read Beyond yet, he's never made a forcefield bubble at all.

I wouldn't have known that as i've never read league of losers so couldn't have contested

 

[Harlekin]

League of Losers wouldn't count because of its alternate reality status. Sure, it showed a few things Gravity could be capable of, but certainly not yet at the end of his mini. Besides, I don't recall him doing anything beyond what he was shown capable of anyway. I might be wrong though.

Damn, maybe I should've broke that one out. Oh well.

 

[hippy fascist]

League of Losers wouldn't count because of its alternate reality status. Sure, it showed a few things Gravity could be capable of, but certainly not yet at the end of his mini. Besides, I don't recall him doing anything beyond what he was shown capable of anyway. I might be wrong though.

Damn, maybe I should've broke that one out. Oh well.

I know what you mean, I always seem to come up with the perfect strategy just at the exact moment phaed types Voting May Begin

 

[Iceman]

Torch needs oxygen for his powers to work. Wrap him in a forcefield bubble and suddenly his oxygen would burn out in seconds rendering him harmless. Whether he could pull it off is debatable but I'm just glad it never came up

Whoever's facing Torch next take note

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 1,

Match 21:

Psylocke (TRIGGER) bio

vs.

Diamond Lil (MIDNIGHT ICE) bio

Match 22:

Siena Blaze (WOLVERINE25TH) bio

vs.

Charles Xavier (DARKHELLRIDER) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2,

Match 21:

Hellion - Julian (WOLVERINE25TH) bio

vs.

Bloodaxe (PHAEDRUS45) bio

Match 22:

Vector - U-Foes (DARKHELLRIDER) bio

vs.

Darkhawk (HARLEKIN) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

LOCATION:

Ego, the Living Planet:


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Known Superhuman Powers: The living planet Ego has been called a "bioverse." Every part of its substance, including its atmosphere, is "alive" inasmuch as it is animated and controlled by the consciousness of Ego. The exact composition of Ego is unknown, but much of the planet's surface, at least, seems to be composed of organic molecules. The planet possesses various internal features which have analogues to parts of living Earth-based organisms. For example, its interior contains tunnels which have been compared to arteries, and the center of Ego's consciousness resides in a brain-like organ deep below its surface. Ego can absorb humanoid-sized living beings into itself and "digest" them in internal areas similar to an Earth beings stomach, using its own analogues to digestive fluids. Just as an Earth organism creates one-celled antibodies to attack foreign substances in its bloodstream, Ego creates humanoid sized anti-body like beings from itself to attack intruders on or beneath its surface. In its encounters with humanoids, Ego has caused the "antibodies" to take semi humanoid form.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ego generates vast psionic energies which, at their peak, rival those of Galactus. If Ego depletes its energy below a level that it can replenish by itself, it can help renew its energy stories by tapping outside sources, like stars, or absorbing the life forces of large numbers of living beings. At full strength Ego can use its psionic energy to obliterate starships. Ego can also control its own substance psychically. Thus Ego can transform its own surface to resemble a gigantic face, to reach out into space with gigantic tendrils, or to become an idyllic world resembling the most beautiful areas of Earth. Ego can create humanoid beings with great powers out of its own surface and, it claims, command them across interstellar distances. Ego communicates with other beings telepathically.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ego has used Its great psionic powers to command the immensely powerful sidereal propulsion unit installed at its south pole by Galactus. The unit can propel Ego in and out of hyperspace at vast speeds, and apparently has virtually inexhaustible power. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Limitations: For unknown reasons, Ego is apparently unable to remove the sidereal propulsion unit embedded in its south pole.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ego's control over its own atmosphere is apparently no match for the power that the thunder god Thor can wield over it using the mystical powers of his enchanted hammer.[/FONT]

(There are lots of websites devoted to Ego. For this battle, Ego will not get involved UNLESS you do something to him to cause him pain. For example, if my character, Terrax, was in this battle, he would have tried to use the planet as a source for fighting War Machine. The problem would have been that Terrax would then be fighting War Machine AND Ego. So, take this into consideration of your character's actions.)​

 

[Harlekin]

OPENING COMMENTS: Darkhawk vs Vector

Y'know, it's funny. Vector's real name is Simon Utrecht. I study in Utrecht (it's a city in the Netherlands). I know you all would've died without me noticing this little coincedink. However, I won't bore you with more, and just tell you all why Darkhawk should kick Vector's little "trying to rip off the Fantastic Four"-ass.

Let's get the first bit of the battle out of the way: Prep-time. Darkhawk has got the Avengers files, Vector's got his own resources. Considering he's a pretty powerful industrialist (or used to be anyway) he'll have resources enough to figure out the basics on Darkhawk, but his opponent has the advantage. Darkhawk has access to highly detailed files on what Vector can do, and Vector can't say the same about Darkhawk.

On to their powers:

Telekinetically propels matter away from himself, can fly by using his power against the ground or any other object of greater mass then himself

The Darkhawk body has enhanced physical abilities, including strength, agility and reflexes. The retractable glider wings under his arms allow him to glide on air currents, and he can also fly at speeds that let him fly from New York to California in only a matter of hours. Even major injuries to his Darkhawk body can be repaired by switching back to his human form; his Darkhawk body teleports back to its holding space on the Darkhawk ship in Null Space, where it can be repaired almost instantly.

Darkhawk can project energy from the amulet in his chest, either as concussive force blasts, or as a circular energy shield. (Chris referred to his force blasts as "darkforce blasts," until he encountered the actual Darkforce Dimension in New Warriors.) Darkhawk also has telescopic and infra-red vision, and a grappling hook on his right arm shaped like a claw.

Now, Tag (from the New X-Men) showed how dangerous a "repelling power" can be, but Vector's don't work in quite the same manner. Tag had the ability to instinctively make people repel, but with just the ability of attracting and repelling matter though, it's not quite the same. It's a potent power sure, but without the aid of his teammates, it's practically useless. To attract Darkhawk towards him would only serve to quicken his defeat, and it's only a matter of time before Darkhawk is capable of surprising Vector and getting around his power, or simply push through by sheer force of will.

Vector offers no other offensive manouvre that can help defeat Darkhawk. He could try and use Ego to his advantage, but that would only serve to anger Ego and that would surely do him no good. All he can do is wait for his inevitable defeat as Darkhawk either tires him out, just plain kicks his ass or uses the location to his advantage. We must also not forget that Darkhawk can heal all of his injuries by just switching between forms, a pretty quick transformation.

Vector's outmatched here.

WINNER=DARKHAWK

 

[DarkHellRider]

Match 22:

Siena Blaze (WOLVERINE25TH) bio

vs.

Charles Xavier (DARKHELLRIDER) bio

This would be a tough match because of charles good nature so he wouldnt want to hurt siena blaze. But charles would not have to do much. charles os one of the most powerful phycics on the planet as soon as he got teleported to ego he would sense the mental presence of hte planet and contact it. Telllin it how he ment it no harm. so once senia used a showckwave ego would respond in sending out its antibodies to dispose of her not going after charles because of his mental abilities

 

[DarkHellRider]

OPENING COMMENTS: Darkhawk vs Vector

Y'know, it's funny. Vector's real name is Simon Utrecht. I study in Utrecht (it's a city in the Netherlands). I know you all would've died without me noticing this little coincedink. However, I won't bore you with more, and just tell you all why Darkhawk should kick Vector's little "trying to rip off the Fantastic Four"-ass.

Let's get the first bit of the battle out of the way: Prep-time. Darkhawk has got the Avengers files, Vector's got his own resources. Considering he's a pretty powerful industrialist (or used to be anyway) he'll have resources enough to figure out the basics on Darkhawk, but his opponent has the advantage. Darkhawk has access to highly detailed files on what Vector can do, and Vector can't say the same about Darkhawk.

On to their powers:



Now, Tag (from the New X-Men) showed how dangerous a "repelling power" can be, but Vector's don't work in quite the same manner. Tag had the ability to instinctively make people repel, but with just the ability of attracting and repelling matter though, it's not quite the same. It's a potent power sure, but without the aid of his teammates, it's practically useless. To attract Darkhawk towards him would only serve to quicken his defeat, and it's only a matter of time before Darkhawk is capable of surprising Vector and getting around his power, or simply push through by sheer force of will.

Vector offers no other offensive manouvre that can help defeat Darkhawk. He could try and use Ego to his advantage, but that would only serve to anger Ego and that would surely do him no good. All he can do is wait for his inevitable defeat as Darkhawk either tires him out, just plain kicks his ass or uses the location to his advantage. We must also not forget that Darkhawk can heal all of his injuries by just switching between forms, a pretty quick transformation.

Vector's outmatched here.

WINNER=DARKHAWK

VEctor is just outmatched here i would have to say forfeit as much as i hate to

 

[Phaedrus45]

Hellion vs. Bloodaxe:

First, Hellion's bio:

Hellion is a telekinetic. He is able to fly at subsonic speeds, create telekinetic force barriers and manipulate objects from a distance.

Now, let me point out that this is Hellion PRE-HoM. He has not had Emma Frost unlock his subconscious blocks on his power. Also, Hellion has had some experience in battle, but not a great extent. He's still a student with not much practical battle experience in the field.

Now, let's focus on Bloodaxe:

Bloodaxe was endowed with superhuman strength, reflexes, stamina and endurance. He was invulnerable to conventional firearms, incendiary or ballistic devices.

The Bloodaxe axe was mystically enchanted and virtually indestructible. It could be used to teleport to places the wielder has previously been, and project fire or ice energy. It could also manipulate magnetic fields, allowing the user to deflect incoming gunfire back at attackers. However, if the user was separated from the axe for more than 60 seconds, they would lose their enchanted form and revert to their original mortal identity, much like the enchantment once placed on Mjolnir by Odin.

Also:

Superhuman strength , endurance and durability on the same levels of a being as powerful as Thor.

Now, neither character will know about the other or the location. Also, while Hellion does have telekenetic power, he has always been someone to act irrationally in battle, jumping in before realizing the full extent of his opponent. He will not realize this is a person who is just as powerful as Thor, who invulnerable to many different kinds of attacks, and with a swing of his axe, will cleave Hellion in half.

I want to stress one important thing my opponent might try to use in his debate, but which would not be at all effective. He might claim he'd just get Bloodaxe's axe away from him for 60 seconds; but, Hellion will not know who Bloodaxe is. He won't know about this one possible weakness. Plus, it's highly unlikely that Bloodaxe could be stripped of his weapon.

Again, Hellion is very cocky. He leaps before he looks. He's also fairly inexperienced and won't know who he's facing.

Another battle strategy that Bloodaxe will use is covering a lot of ground before engaging Hellion in battle. For, as his biography states, "The Bloodaxe axe was mystically enchanted and ... could be used to teleport to places the wielder has previously been." If Hellion tries to attack Bloodaxe, Bloodaxe will be able to teleport to any location he's already been on Ego, the Living Planet...or even teleport directly above or behind Jullian, use his axe, and splice him in two.

Truly, there is only one winner.



Winner = Bloodaxe

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

HELLION vs. BLOODAXE

Despite his inexperience, Hellion has been seen holding up against some of the X-Men's powerful foes. His force bubble has yet to be penetrated and even before his enhancements he could do some damange. His powers also give him another benefit: range.

He can fly and strike from a distance. His hot-headed nature also means he'll strike out hard and fast to try and put this guy down to undoubtedly show off for his teammates back home. That makes him even more dangerous as well as careless. Also, Axe isn't unstoppable as he has been beaten before. It couldn't also take much for Hellion to propel Axe so hard he aggrivates Ego and brings his wrath down upon him by chance. Of course, there's also a chance he'd try to do an environmental attack and get Ego on HIS case, but I'd akin that to a Danger Room evasive session he'd be prepared for.

WINNER: HELLION

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

BLAZE vs. XAVIER

Thought vs. force of nature. Basically, it all comes down to if Xavier could mentally incapacitate her before she sends off her most powerful shot and wipe him out to win before Ego kicks her ass.

WINNER: BLAZE

 

[Phaedrus45]

HELLION vs. BLOODAXE

Despite his inexperience, Hellion has been seen holding up against some of the X-Men's powerful foes. His force bubble has yet to be penetrated and even before his enhancements he could do some damange. His powers also give him another benefit: range.

Actually, since he's pre-HoM, any experience he's faced in battling past X-Men villians, like Nimrod, are unusable. This really is an inexperienced version, and voters do need to take that into consideration.

Plus, in regards to his "force bubble," it's never gone against anything as powerful as Bloodaxe's enchanted axe. This is a very powerful weapon, and, more than likely, would render Hellion unconscious. Remember, it's stated as being able to cut through almost anything. Even if the bubble did hold up, Hellion couldn't withstand the impact that it would deliver.

He can fly and strike from a distance. His hot-headed nature also means he'll strike out hard and fast to try and put this guy down to undoubtedly show off for his teammates back home.

It's been shown that Hellion's hot-headed nature is usually his downfall. And, wanting to "show off for his teammates back home" is going to get him killed. Bloodstrike has faced such enemies as Thor and Thunderstrike. Hellion just doesn't have that kind of experience.

That makes him even more dangerous as well as careless. Also, Axe isn't unstoppable as he has been beaten before.

The nature of being a villian is getting defeated in the end. But, Bloodaxe has also held his own against a very powerful Thor and Thunderstrike, and has even come out on top.

It couldn't also take much for Hellion to propel Axe so hard he aggrivates Ego and brings his wrath down upon him by chance.

But, Ego would be aware that it's Hellion causing him pain.

As I've pointed out, Bloodaxe is "invulnerable to conventional firearms, incendiary or ballistic devices." It's very likely that nothing Hellion would do could really hurt Bloodaxe. In fact, Bloodaxe could let Hellion think he's knocked him out, and once Hellion comes up to check on his supposed fallen foe, Bloodaxe would surprise his unexpected victim with a swipe of his axe.

Winner = Bloodaxe

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Ya know, that distinction is ******ed as all hell. You wanna keep him at his original power levels, that's just fine...but HoM is a story that had absolutely NO EFFECT on Hellion whatsoever, so all you're doing is robbing him of valuable experience. Now ya wanna go pre-upgrade, that's all fine and dandy, but seriously creating a restriction in regards to stories that had NO CHANGES resulted in a character is rediculous. And that goes fer any character in this tournament with any player.

Post HoM Hellion is the same as pre-HoM Hellion just with a couple more adventures under his belt. It's the end of Nimrod where a real change comes into play. You wanna say pre-Nimrod, I'll go with that happily. But pre-HoM? Gonna hafta fight you on that one.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Ya know, that distinction is ******ed as all hell. You wanna keep him at his original power levels, that's just fine...but HoM is a story that had absolutely NO EFFECT on Hellion whatsoever, so all you're doing is robbing him of valuable experience. Now ya wanna go pre-upgrade, that's all fine and dandy, but seriously creating a restriction in regards to stories that had NO CHANGES resulted in a character is rediculous. And that goes fer any character in this tournament with any player.

Post HoM Hellion is the same as pre-HoM Hellion just with a couple more adventures under his belt. It's the end of Nimrod where a real change comes into play. You wanna say pre-Nimrod, I'll go with that happily. But pre-HoM? Gonna hafta fight you on that one.

It won't work. This point was already debated in my match versus Mercury, and JH determined that all things that happen in the year-long, Child's Hood End storyline cannot be used in this tournament. He even made the decision, knowing that it would effect his character. All the upgrades and experience that Jullian received, therefore, cannot be used in this match. The last fight that Jullian would have been involved in is with the Hellions mini-series.