Contest of Marvels II Thread 3

[JewishHobbit]

Exodus
Nimrod
Ultimus
New Sun

 

[Phaedrus45]

Final Results:

Exodus defeats Hisako Ichiki 8-2
Nimrod defeats Warlock 9-1
Ultimus defeats Iceman 8-2
New Sun defeats Air-Walker 7-3

 

[kytrigger]

I like how Hisako got 2 votes even though Harlekin basically conceded defeat. Proof that Hisako is ridiculously awesome

 

[Harlekin]

Well, one of those votes was mine. Still, true true.

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 5:

Exodus (KYTRIGGER) bio

VS.

Nimrod (WIEGEABO) bio

BRACKET 6:

Ultimus (PHAEDRUS45) bio



vs.

New Sun (WIEGEABO) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

LOCATION: PROVIDENCE (Not Populated)

Providence is a fictional island featured in comic books published by Marvel Comics. Providence, located somewhere in the of the South Pacific Ocean, is an artificial island comprised of parts from Cable’s old space station Greymalkin.

Since Providence is built out of a space station from the future, it has an abundance of advanced technology. Most of this technology Cable allows to be freely given out to the world.

• Teleportation Matrix – Providence is equipped with a teleportation matrix that responds to the verbal commands of both Cable and Deadpool. It allows them to be teleported anywhere on Earth, and was once modified to teleport between dimensions as well.

• Skimmer Jets – Self-subsisting, solar-powered vehicles used by Cable when he no longer had the ability to fly of his own accord.

• Fission Waste Processor – Used for processing waste, and presumably an energy supply, this device was shared with Tony Stark.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Ultimus vs. New Sun:

This is a cool match-up of characters that many voters know little about; but, by now, are becoming much more familiar.

The bios.

Ultimus:

Powers: Superhuman strenght, speed, stamina, agility and reflexes, metahuman durability, besides the ability to manipulate cosmic energy

Also, the bio from the Official Marvel Handbook Master Edition on Ultimus:

"Ultimus has the ability to manipulate cosmic energy to augment his life force, granting him great longevity and regenerative abilities, the projection of cosmic energy as concussive bolts from his hands, the ability to project an invisible force field about his body varying from a radius of one-inch to several yards, the ability to fly by harnessing anti-gravitons, and possibly other powers."

Also, under Strength, it says he has "Superhuman Class 90" powers, under Speed and Stamina both say "Superhuman," and under Durability it says "Metahuman."


New Sun:

Complete control of kinetic energy in all its forms. This translates into flight, explosion of matter, and manipulation of time and space, including travel to alternate realities.


Now, for a definition of Kinetic Energy, I want to make sure the readers understand it's different than cosmic energy. As the definition says,

"The kinetic energy of an object is the extra energy which it possesses due to its motion."


Also, I want to point out some important parts of New Sun's bio:

The ceremony worked exactly as prophesied - unfortunately. The combination of mystical and kinetic energies created a shockwave that destroyed all life on the planet - except the mutant who started it. The "New Son," as he now called himself, tried to use his powers to manipulate time and undo his deed, but ended up accessing the Spiral of Worlds, a gateway to the multiverse. There he found worlds upon which there were other versions of himself, and he vowed to never let what happened to his world happen to another.

This shows that New Sun will never go all out, otherwise he'd do the same thing he swore never to do.

Finally, I want to point out one more very important aspect of New Sun's powers and his eventual death:

New Sun grabbed Remy, who poured all of his vast energies into New Sun, overloading his system. The tremors shook the statue of the ancient King, which fell and impaled New Sun on its spear. New Sun exploded, along with his world. Gambit was pulled back through Bill's portal just in time by Courier.

Now, I want to imagine two things: Namely, Gambit's ability to put all his power into New Sun compared to Ultimus' ability to put all his power into New Sun. If New Sun is able to suck up Ultimus' power, it would probably prove deadly to him, especially since Ultimus is Class 90 strength and could easily cause New Sun to be impaled upon many things within Providence.

This brings up an important part of this battle. New Sun needs kinetic energy to use his powers; I would think if a one on one battle happened and Ultimus saw New Sun using his powers against him, he'd change his tactics. Remember, Ultimus has flight...and Ultimus can even destroy Providence as a whole. With flight, speed, and cosmic powers, Ultimus can take this match and finally do away with a being who would never use his powers to their fullest potential.

Winner = Ultimus

 

[wiegeabo]

Nimrod vs Exodus

If there is one enemy that is literally designed to beat a mutant like Exodus, it's Nimrod.

Prep-time goes to Nimrod because no matter how much information Exodus may have on the Sentinel, Nimrod probably has more (or at least as much) information on Exodus. Coupled with his ability to scan Exodus' range of powers and abilities, and Nimrod has the edge.

Likewise, location heavily favors Nimrod. Nimrod can interface with Providence's systems, turning the entire island against Exodus. And even if this does nothing more than distract the mutant, that is something Exodus can't afford in this battle. If anything of Providence survives this fight will be surprising.

Exodus has a wide variety of powers, but so does Nimrod. And with his ability to scan mutants and adapt to what is happening, Nimrod can redesign himself to counter everything Exodus can do.

Nimrod can also develop weapons to interfere with Exodus' ability to fight. Mental scramblers to disrupt his telekinesis, flight, and teleportation.

And all the while Nimrod is adapting to Exodus, he is also actively engaging him in battle. Possibly even using Providence's technology against the mutant. And and damage Exodus may cause, Nimrod can heal from. He could even integrate some of the more advanced Providence technologies into his system, making him an ever more formidable sentinel.

It will probably be a long drawn out, but Nimrod has what it takes to this mutant, no matter how powerful he is.


Nimrod wins

 

[wiegeabo]

New Sun vs Ultimus

This is a very good battle. One who can manipulate cosmic energy against one who can manipulate kinetic energy.

Prep-time and location shouldn't matter. They won't know or find anything about each other. Providence is just another battlefield to be destroyed, and New Sun doesn't have to worry about hurting others.

The description of Ultimus' power makes him sound almost like a Herald of Galactus. Not as powerful, but similar. New Sun already proved he could defeat a Herald in the last round against Air-Walker. And the same strategy will work here.

New Sun's X-Cutioner armor gives him a few extra tactics. Not only does the armor obviously provide him protection, but it gives him weapons to use in the fight. And the ability to teleport, opening up the chance of attacking quickly from multiple directions.

But New Sun's mutant ability will be the real deciding factor of the match. The instant the battle starts, New Sun can 'freeze' Ultimus in place, preventing him from moving at all by stealing his kinetic energy. At which point he can blow up things surrounding Ultimus in an attempt to hurt him and knock him out of the match.

If Ultimus proves too resilient, New Sun can charge up parts of his body in order to cause pain. Or explode parts of Ultimus' body to disable him. He can use the potential energy of Ultimus' cosmic powers against him by turning it into kinetic energy and manipulating it as a weapon.

With his enemy 'frozen' in place, New Sun shouldn't have any problem winning this match.


New Sun wins

 

[wiegeabo]

Now, for a definition of Kinetic Energy, I want to make sure the readers understand it's different than cosmic energy. As the definition says,

"The kinetic energy of an object is the extra energy which it possesses due to its motion."

Just like the Gambit we all know better, New Sun can convert potential energy into kinetic energy and manipulate it, making it explosive if needed.

Potential energy is just the energy stored in an object or system that has the 'potential' of being used. So even if Ultimus does nothing, he is filled with potential energy (especially that of cosmic energy he holds) that New Sun can exploit.

This shows that New Sun will never go all out, otherwise he'd do the same thing he swore never to do.

New Sun doesn't have to worry about anyone except Ultimus. And with how powerful Ultimus is, if necessary, New Sun can go quite far. If Ultimus proves to be a great enough threat, New Sun can just destroy the entire battlefield. Even if it kills Ultimus, when it comes down to kill or be killed, New Sun will make sure he's the one that lives.

Now, I want to imagine two things: Namely, Gambit's ability to put all his power into New Sun compared to Ultimus' ability to put all his power into New Sun. If New Sun is able to suck up Ultimus' power, it would probably prove deadly to him, especially since Ultimus is Class 90 strength and could easily cause New Sun to be impaled upon many things within Providence.

This brings up an important part of this battle. New Sun needs kinetic energy to use his powers; I would think if a one on one battle happened and Ultimus saw New Sun using his powers against him, he'd change his tactics. Remember, Ultimus has flight...and Ultimus can even destroy Providence as a whole. With flight, speed, and cosmic powers, Ultimus can take this match and finally do away with a being who would never use his powers to their fullest potential.

There's no guarantee that Ultimus would be able to effect New Sun the same way. Gambit has the same/similar mutant ability to control kinetic energy as New Sun, which could have made his attack more effective. And it wasn't Gambit energy that killed New Sun, but being impaled. New Sun can transform himself into energy and avoid such damage, while still attacking with his mutant power.

And will Ultimus really be able to tell that New Sun is using his own energy against him? Or will he only see that New Sun is attacking him with energy and try to counter it.

New Sun is also not limited to just kinetic energy. (Although to eliminate kinetic energy from the equation, Ultimus would have to not move, attack, or pretty much do anything. Still leaving him open to New Sun's X-Cutioner weapons.) New Sun, like Gambit, can convert potential energy into kinetic energy. That's how they charge things up and cause them to explode.

So, even if Ultimus could avoid providing New Sun with kinetic energy, New Sun could still charge up Ultimus' body (or the objects around him) and attack him that way. It's hard to stay in a fight when body parts are being blown off.


New Sun wins

 

[kytrigger]

Exodus (KYTRIGGER) bio

VS.

Nimrod (WIEGEABO) bio

Interesting match here between a robot desigened to kill mutants, and one of the most powerful and underrated mutants in all of Marvel.

Powers:
Nimrod has superstrength. endurance, scanners to identify an enemy, and can shoot various types of energy blasts, and can shapeshift. He can also interface with other electronics and when damaged can take back that piece of himself and heal (although he cannot just heal from other computers, it HAS to be his original parts). he is basically known for scanning his enemy to determine their powers, and then trying to figure out a way to get past those powers to defeat them.

Exodus has:
Superhuman strength, speed and physical resistance,
Telepathy,
Telekinesis,
Teleportation,
Pyroplasmic blasts,
Psionic energy drain,
Force beams,
Flight,
Resurrection,
Forcefield generation

He has shown the ability to use his abilities all at the same time against many different powerful foes. His most powerful ability is probably his teke and forcefield generation which has crushed an entire city before.

As for prep, it goes to Exodus. Being a mutant he will definatel yknow about Exodus and know that he is very dangerous. While Exodus is from teh future, he has been in the normal timeline quite a while now. Also, while he hunts down mutants, he has never shown to actually interface with other computer systems just to get a bunch of mutant bios. All he really does is fly around and if he scans a mutant he fights them.

Now location helps Nimrod INITIALLY. It has a lto of tech he can interface with, but this will not in any way cause a problem for Exodus. Exodus knows Nimrod is an advanced Sentinel and when he sees that the place is surrounded by all this tech, he will instantly destroy it all. Exodus is no idiot, in fact he is very very smart and has survived hundreds of years because of it, he will see that destroying everything will be first prioity He has crushed an entire city before, smashing all the machines at once will not be a problem for him. Even with Nimrod attacking him, Exodus is used to fightin gentire teams by himslef and multi-tasking is one of his specialties.

Now for the rest of the fight, it won't last too long. Exodus will undoubtedly use a massive forcefield to try and crush Nimrod. Now, Nimrod is extra durable so it might not just crush him, but it is definately large enough to immobilize him. If Exodus sees that his forcefield doesn't work, he will use another of his favorite powers, his teelportation. He has teleported people as far as outerspace, and unlike many teleporters, doesn't need to travel with them when teleporting.

In many ways, Exodus is like Apocalypse in that when he fights, he goes all out, but if he can find a way to end a fight quickly, he will do it.

As for Nimrod, he can't do much to hurt Exodus in time. Exodus will have him immobilzed by his forcefield which also protects Exodus from almost any type of attack there is. His forcefield as stood up to the x-men and avengers which not only shows strength, but it shows that it protects from a wide variety of differetn attacks, whether they be physical or energy.

Also, Exodus is a futuristic robot with great endurance, but he has been beaten before. He was originally beaten by Rogue (she ripped his arm of and he ran away), who is powerful, but absolutely nothing compared to Exodus.

Nimrod was designed to kill all mutants. Big deal. So was every other Sentinel ever created, yet mutants keep kicking the crap out of them. Nimrod might be the most advanced Sentinel there is, but he has still been beaten several times before by mutants, and here he is facing one of the most powerful mutants in the world with a ridiculous amount of powers.

 

[kytrigger]

Rebuttal

Nimrod vs Exodus
If there is one enemy that is literally designed to beat a mutant like Exodus, it's Nimrod.

All sentinels are basicalyl desigend to kill mutants, yet the X-men and their villains still keep on destroying them one after another. Nimrod will be no different.

Prep-time goes to Nimrod because no matter how much information Exodus may have on the Sentinel, Nimrod probably has more (or at least as much) information on Exodus.

How would he have more? Nimrod has never really shown to have huge files on all mutants, he has just been shown to scan them and then fight them. That's the whoel reason he acted like a super-hero for a while, because he basically just flew around the city looking for mutants and also stopped crime.

Coupled with his ability to scan Exodus' range of powers and abilities, and Nimrod has the edge.

His scanners have also been his downfall before letting him get his butt kicked by Rogue.

Likewise, location heavily favors Nimrod. Nimrod can interface with Providence's systems, turning the entire island against Exodus. And even if this does nothing more than distract the mutant, that is something Exodus can't afford in this battle. If anything of Providence survives this fight will be surprising.

Exactly. For this very reason the tech on the island doesn't matter one damn bit. Exodus is very intelligent and will destroy teh machinery all around him in a matter of seconds, which is far too fast for Nimrod to do anything.

Exodus has a wide variety of powers, but so does Nimrod. And with his ability to scan mutants and adapt to what is happening, Nimrod can redesign himself to counter everything Exodus can do.

And yet this amazing ability of his has been beaten before several times.

Nimrod can also develop weapons to interfere with Exodus' ability to fight. Mental scramblers to disrupt his telekinesis, flight, and teleportation.

In order fo rNimrod to do all of this, he first has to scan and then actually adapt to Exodus, which takes Nimrod quite a while to actually do. This is the very reason he ran away from Rogue was because she has so many powers and it messed him up. If adapting to all these powers was really that easy then there is no way Rogue beats him. And Exodus has just as many powers as Rogue had so it will be difficult for Nimrod to really adapt to him. As for mental scramblers, Exodus broke teammates of his out of an entire SHIELD facility which would definately have mental scramblers of every type on hand. None of their weapons fazed him at all. He ash also faced the Avengers which I know included the tech heavy Iron Man. He has also taken on Jean Grey and Xavier at once and even freaking Cable and X-Man at once so his metnal powers have proven to be able to avoid both mental and technical attacks.

In fact, he has beaten Cable a number of times including beating all of X-Force (something Nimrod was unable to do.)

And all the while Nimrod is adapting to Exodus, he is also actively engaging him in battle. Possibly even using Providence's technology against the mutant. And and damage Exodus may cause, Nimrod can heal from. He could even integrate some of the more advanced Providence technologies into his system, making him an ever more formidable sentinel.

Well the tech thing is moot since they will all be absolutely destroyed. Even you ourself admitted to that much. And while Nimrod can heal, it isn't as easy as you make it seem. He had to actually run away from Rogue to give himself time to heal. And he can be damaged somewhat easily since Cable damaged him by blowing up a gas pipe underneath him when they fought.

Yes, Nimrod can heal, but he needs time to do it, and more importantly, he needs every part of his body back to heal. If Exopdus crsuhes his legs into a million pieces, he needs to gather up every single piece to heal.

Nimrod is an advanced Sentinel, but he has still been beaten a number of times by mutants before. Whether it is Cable convincign him to destroy himself, or Rogue literally ripping his arm off, Nimrod has shown that he isn't as great a mutant killer as he hoped for.

Exodus on the other hand has faced the x-men and the Avengers at the same time along with other major heavy hitters. HE has anamzing amount of superpowers and he can use them all effectively at once easily overpowering Nimrod in the process. Exodus also would not hold back in any way since Nimrod is a mutant hunting machine and that means utter destruction for Nimrod.

Winner- Exodus

 

[Phaedrus45]

Rebuttal: New Sun vs Ultimus

The description of Ultimus' power makes him sound almost like a Herald of Galactus. Not as powerful, but similar. New Sun already proved he could defeat a Herald in the last round against Air-Walker. And the same strategy will work here.

I know you're just showing how you will use similiar strategies; but, I just want to point out to voters that previous battles in this contest are not in any way deciding factors or usuable in arguing your character's abilities. The quote, "New Sun already proved he could defeat a Herald" shouldn't be uttered, as nothing is proved except in some fashion that Wiegeabo convinced a certain number of people to vote for his character over Air-Walker. This battle is not proof of anything in regards to New Sun.

New Sun doesn't have to worry about anyone except Ultimus. And with how powerful Ultimus is, if necessary, New Sun can go quite far. If Ultimus proves to be a great enough threat, New Sun can just destroy the entire battlefield. Even if it kills Ultimus, when it comes down to kill or be killed, New Sun will make sure he's the one that lives.

New Sun does need to worry about more than just Ultimus. Even though Providence isn't occupied, the planet still is. New Sun doesn't just have the potential to kill the people of Providence if he overdoes his powers, but the ENTIRE planet. New Sun will not risk the fate of everyone in order to get a win in a tournament of Marvels; he gave up his life before, don't forget.

There's no guarantee that Ultimus would be able to effect New Sun the same way. Gambit has the same/similar mutant ability to control kinetic energy as New Sun, which could have made his attack more effective. And it wasn't Gambit energy that killed New Sun, but being impaled. New Sun can transform himself into energy and avoid such damage, while still attacking with his mutant power.

What sucks is we have two characters that I probably would rather have out of the competition, namely for the fact neither has a lot of appearances to gain information from. It makes the voter have the difficult decision of trying to decide potential and not a lot of facts in battle. New Sun (or New Son, even that isn't decided in the few sites devoted to a character of such rare appearances) is basically Uber-Gambit. Now, I do say that the same thing could happen again. Ultimus, from what little information I have about him too from the Marvel Handbook dated from the early 90's I believe, is very powerful and resilient. He can easily cause New Sun to be impaled by some object, because Providence is about to get a major remodeling.

Plus, one thing that comes to mind is that New Sun was going through timelines killing other versions of himself...and, to me, Gambit is one of the lame X-Men. I can't really seeing New Sun vs. Gambit much of a match...of course New Sun was able to kill so many. (THis is more of a slam against Gambit than New Sun..I don't like his character that much, as you can tell.) New Sun has great potential, but that potential can be deadly. That's something we've learned from his past.

I do concede this is probably my most difficult match of the week. That really is because so little is know about either character. I don't have much to rebutt, because we don't have information to bring up, as I could with the other matches. I know same goes for you. I leave this up to the voters. I'd hate to have to decide.

Winner = Ultimus

 

[wiegeabo]

As for prep, it goes to Exodus. Being a mutant he will definatel yknow about Exodus and know that he is very dangerous. While Exodus is from teh future, he has been in the normal timeline quite a while now. Also, while he hunts down mutants, he has never shown to actually interface with other computer systems just to get a bunch of mutant bios. All he really does is fly around and if he scans a mutant he fights them.

Nimrod is quite intelligent. He'll know who his enemy is for during prep-time. If he doesn't already have files on him, he'll search for them. It may not be what Nimrod typically does, but he's typically not in this situation. When he has files on a mutant, he uses them. And he's gathered files before, so why not this time too.

Now location helps Nimrod INITIALLY. It has a lto of tech he can interface with, but this will not in any way cause a problem for Exodus. Exodus knows Nimrod is an advanced Sentinel and when he sees that the place is surrounded by all this tech, he will instantly destroy it all. Exodus is no idiot, in fact he is very very smart and has survived hundreds of years because of it, he will see that destroying everything will be first prioity He has crushed an entire city before, smashing all the machines at once will not be a problem for him. Even with Nimrod attacking him, Exodus is used to fightin gentire teams by himslef and multi-tasking is one of his specialties.

Now for the rest of the fight, it won't last too long. Exodus will undoubtedly use a massive forcefield to try and crush Nimrod. Now, Nimrod is extra durable so it might not just crush him, but it is definately large enough to immobilize him. If Exodus sees that his forcefield doesn't work, he will use another of his favorite powers, his teelportation. He has teleported people as far as outerspace, and unlike many teleporters, doesn't need to travel with them when teleporting.

Exodus can try to use his forcefield to crush the city and Nimrod. But Nimrod also teleportation, and can just escape Exodus' grasp, pressing the attack from a new direction. And buying himself enough time to fully scan Exodus (if he didn't get anything during prep-time).

Nimrod also has his own set of forcefields to use for protection, giving him even more time to scan and fight.

In many ways, Exodus is like Apocalypse in that when he fights, he goes all out, but if he can find a way to end a fight quickly, he will do it.

As for Nimrod, he can't do much to hurt Exodus in time. Exodus will have him immobilzed by his forcefield which also protects Exodus from almost any type of attack there is. His forcefield as stood up to the x-men and avengers which not only shows strength, but it shows that it protects from a wide variety of differetn attacks, whether they be physical or energy.

But there are so many ways for Nimrod to attack. Nimrod could teleport himself right next to Exodus, inside the mutant's protective field, and strike him directly with conventional weapons. Or, at a distance, he can use intense sonics to break Exodus' concentration. Or create a weapon to disrupt Exodus' mental functions. That's is the key to Nimrod's power. He can always adapt to the situation, building newer and better weapons. And with each adaptation he gets stronger, better, and harder to beat.

Also, Exodus is a futuristic robot with great endurance, but he has been beaten before. He was originally beaten by Rogue (she ripped his arm of and he ran away), who is powerful, but absolutely nothing compared to Exodus.

Nimrod was designed to kill all mutants. Big deal. So was every other Sentinel ever created, yet mutants keep kicking the crap out of them. Nimrod might be the most advanced Sentinel there is, but he has still been beaten several times before by mutants, and here he is facing one of the most powerful mutants in the world with a ridiculous amount of powers.

Since Nimrod survived Rogue's attack, he's no doubt adapted, since in a later encounter he seriously injured Rogue, and won't be that easy to beat. And Nimrod has faced teams of mutants as well. In the match in which he hurt Rogue, he held his own against both the X-Men and Hellfire Club at the same time. And he dealt them a lot of damage.

And comparing Nimrod to modern Sentinels is not fair. Nimrod is as above current Sentinels as mutants are above humans. Nimrod is smart, ultra-durable, and adaptable. Modern Sentinels have no where near the intelligence or the strength, and don't have Nimrod's abilities for adaptation. Exodus may be a mutant with a ridiculous amount of powers, but Nimrod is a Sentinel with a ridiculous amount of powers that is designed to adapt to, and defeat mutants.

Exodus has finally met his match in an opponent that can specifically adapt to and counter all of his powers.


Nimrod wins

 

[wiegeabo]

New Sun does need to worry about more than just Ultimus. Even though Providence isn't occupied, the planet still is. New Sun doesn't just have the potential to kill the people of Providence if he overdoes his powers, but the ENTIRE planet. New Sun will not risk the fate of everyone in order to get a win in a tournament of Marvels; he gave up his life before, don't forget.

But, unlike his last match, there are no civilians in the area to worry about. None on Providence, and likely none anywhere near it since it's out in the middle of the ocean. So, while in the last match New Sun couldn't let loose at all, in this case he could release a blast powerful enough to destroy the entire island, and maybe more. New Sun would survive. And if Ultimus did, he'd likely be blown out of the battlefield for a ring out.

What sucks is we have two characters that I probably would rather have out of the competition, namely for the fact neither has a lot of appearances to gain information from. It makes the voter have the difficult decision of trying to decide potential and not a lot of facts in battle. New Sun (or New Son, even that isn't decided in the few sites devoted to a character of such rare appearances) is basically Uber-Gambit. Now, I do say that the same thing could happen again. Ultimus, from what little information I have about him too from the Marvel Handbook dated from the early 90's I believe, is very powerful and resilient. He can easily cause New Sun to be impaled by some object, because Providence is about to get a major remodeling.

There's no guarantee of that. And there's no guarantee that just impaling New Sun would cause him to explode. When New Sun was killed, Gambit had pumped up with massive amounts of energy. New Sun was overloaded to the point that he couldn't control it anymore when impaled. This New Sun doesn't have that problem.

Plus, one thing that comes to mind is that New Sun was going through timelines killing other versions of himself...and, to me, Gambit is one of the lame X-Men. I can't really seeing New Sun vs. Gambit much of a match...of course New Sun was able to kill so many. (THis is more of a slam against Gambit than New Sun..I don't like his character that much, as you can tell.) New Sun has great potential, but that potential can be deadly. That's something we've learned from his past.

This doesn't have any real bearing. You may argue Gambit is lame (powerwise), I argue he isn't. And New Sun could have killed a number of Gambit's that were almost as strong as he is. We just don't know. So it's probably best if this argument is just left out (because personal bias is just so passe )


New Sun wins

 

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, again, I won't rebutt because we should get the voting started.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!!!

 

[Phaedrus45]

*Exodus - (I could be wrong, but Nimrod's previous adventure before the unusable "Child's Play" is either about when Exodus came about or right after. He simply won't have recent files in his timeline on that character, I believe. Now, Nimrod will survive this fight; but, I see him teleporting away to fix himself, and by doing that probably taking himself away from the location before Exodus can hurt him further. Hard decision, but Exodus is one bad mutant.)

*Ultimus

 

[wiegeabo]

Nimrod
New Sun

 

[Darren Daring]

Nimrod
Ultimus

 

[POWdER-man]

Exodus
Ultimus

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Exodus
New Sun

 

[kytrigger]

Exodus

Ultimus

 

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Exodus currently beating Nimrod 4-2

Ultimus currently beating New Sun 4-2

 

[Midnight Ice]

exodus
ultimus