Contest of Marvels II Thread 4

[Trigger]

Which means that P. Hilton jokes are still relevant, yippy!

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Magneto

Thor

Maestro - this would be a tough battle but I think Maestro could edge a win

Clea - sorceress supreme with prep time, and Clea did train in NYC for quite a while so may know the location very well

 

[Midnight Ice]

Magneto
Thor
Maestro
Clea

 

[POWdER-man]

Thor
Magneto
Sersi
Maestro...

 

[wiegeabo]

Magneto (I think Rachel could take it)
Garrok (he could stand up against enough attacks to realize that teleportation is the way to win)
Apocalypse (if Maestro can be beaten with a gamma bomb, Apoc likely has tech that can win the fight as well)
Clea

 

[primemover]

Magneto
Thor - (though he talks like a gay)
Apocalypse - (psionics and versatility is the key here)
Sersi

 

[Harlekin]

Magneto
Thor
Apocalypse
Sersi - Most what we know about Clea is talked about or speculated on, but rarely actually shown, unlike with Sersi.

 

[Harlekin]

Current standings:
Magneto is beating Rachel Grey with 8-0
Thor is beating Garokk with 7-1
Maestro is beating Apocalypse with 5-3
Sersi is beating Clea with 5-3

 

[kytrigger]

Sersi
Magneto
Garokk
Maestro

sweet...i didn't have to read any of the deabtes in this thread

 

[JewishHobbit]

Magneto
Thor
Apocalypse
Sersi

 

[Phaedrus45]

Final Results:

Magneto defeats Rachel Grey 10-0
Thor defeats Garrok 8-2
Maestro defeats Apocalypse 6-4
Sersi defeats Clea 7-3

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 7:

Magneto (KYTRIGGER) bio

VS.

Thor (HARLEKIN) bio

BRACKET 8:

Maestro (KYTRIGGER) bio

vs.

Sersi (KYTRIGGER) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

LOCATION: PROVIDENCE (Not Populated)

Providence is a fictional island featured in comic books published by Marvel Comics. Providence, located somewhere in the of the South Pacific Ocean, is an artificial island comprised of parts from Cable’s old space station Greymalkin.

Since Providence is built out of a space station from the future, it has an abundance of advanced technology. Most of this technology Cable allows to be freely given out to the world.

• Teleportation Matrix – Providence is equipped with a teleportation matrix that responds to the verbal commands of both Cable and Deadpool. It allows them to be teleported anywhere on Earth, and was once modified to teleport between dimensions as well.

• Skimmer Jets – Self-subsisting, solar-powered vehicles used by Cable when he no longer had the ability to fly of his own accord.

• Fission Waste Processor – Used for processing waste, and presumably an energy supply, this device was shared with Tony Stark.

 

[kytrigger]

Magneto (KYTRIGGER) bio

VS.

Thor (HARLEKIN) bio

Now THIS is what I call a battle! Both major heavy hitters that have faced each other before.

Powers:

Everyone knows both Magneto's and Thor's powers....


As for prep time, it is a wash. They both know each other very well and have fought before. The location is equal as well just because neither is going to really take advantage of the major tech around there, plus all that fancy pants equipment is most likely going to be obliterated in the first minute of the battle anyway.


Okay, as for the fight, there is one MAJOR factor in this fight that gives Magneto a huge advantage. Mjolnir is probably Thor's greatest offensive weapon and somethign he uses almost always, but it is still made of metal. Magneto can control Mjolnir. He has done it before even, driving it out of Thor grasp. Now, Thor can "summon" mjolnir back to him where it keeps coming back to his hands, but Magneto can simply hold it away with his powers.

This pic proves that Magneot can in fact mess with Mjolnir as Thor himself states it by prefeacing it withthe ever-so-cool "By Odin's Beard!!!!!"

By taking away Mjolnir, Magneto takes away Thor's:

-energy manipulation
-weather control
-teleportation
-flight
-the God Blast

Now, Thor is still no pushover with Mjolnir, and I would never say he is crippled without it, but you have to admit that by taking away Mjolnir, Magneto definately takes away some major powers of Thor. In fact, really the only thing that isn't directly affected by mjolnir is his physical strength and his endurance.

Now, as for his strength, Thor is strong. I know, it's a crazy thing to say, but it's true. The problem is that Magneto's shields are MORE than capable of standing up to a physical assault from Thor. Especially without his hammer.

Here is Magneto fightin gthe Avengers yet again and his shields easily standing up to both Thor and She-Hulk at teh same time. Now, She-Hulk at this time wasn't as powerful as Thor was (I think she was a Class 75), but taking on her AND Thor at once is still a pretty impressive show of stopping power and suits this battle perfeclt (unoike the pics of him blocking nukes or something)


So now, we've gotten past the parts whereThor will have an extremely difficult time hurting Mags, but now we need to describe how Magneto wil hurt Thor.

Magneto has tons of ways to use his powers and can even make himself a class 100 as well. He has even broken out of a bear hug form Hercules (old strong version) that threw Hercules off his feet. He also has energy blasts that would definately wear down Thor. Another thing he can do is simply reverse the gravity around Thor making him helplessly float in the air and strike him from there. Remember, without Mjolnir, Thro can't fly so he would be in a terrible defensive position there.

Plus, the location DOES have a huge amount of metal there for Magneto to grab a hold of and pummel Thor with.

Yes, it would take a while to knock out Thor with metal girders and 2 ton machines, but it would definately happen. Thor is very powerful, but he still has his limits. He isn't invincible.

Another thing Magneto could do that he has shown a fondness for in the years is actualyl making Thor collapse by basically giving him a brain anuerysm. He can stop the flow of blood in the body or remove the iron in his blood making him collapse. And even though he is Asgardian, every single bio I have read states that "asgardians are like humans only denser" meaning that basically everything else is the same, only more of it. So this could still work on Thor even though he is an Asgardian.

Thor is a powerful foe, but so is Magneto. he has taken on the entire Avengers before including Thor. He has faced numerous powerful X-Men teams, the Inhumans, and even Dr. Doom as well. Magneto isn't just powerful, but he is also very smart and ruthless when it is needed. He can take control of Mjolnir giving him a major advantage in this fight.

It would still be a long fight, but Magneto has too many ways to hurt Thor and physically Thor cannot hurt Magneto.

Winner- Magneto

 

[kytrigger]

Maestro (KYTRIGGER) bio

vs.

Sersi (KYTRIGGER) bio

This is an intersting battle because you have Maestro, a physical powerhouse vs. Sersi who is a powerhouse mainly because she has so many different freaking powers.

I'm not sure who I will take, but just don't count out Sersi immediately. She has beaten the Avengers before when she went crazy and is still a powerful character.

 

[Harlekin]

OPENING COMMENTS: Thor vs Magneto

Okay, this is a huge and fun battle. Before we start, I'd like to apologize for the lateness of this, I have had some trouble motivating myself lately. It's purely my own fault. Either way, we've got an interesting battle, and I don't think Providence will still be up in the air at the end of it. These two characters have met one another before, and they know each others' capabilities quite well.

I'm not going to bother posting powers, since really, you either know them, or you can look up Thor here, here, here and some info on Mjolnir here. If you'd like to read up on some Thor feats, please go here. For links on Magneto, well, my opponent will supply those.

Let's get some other basic things out of the way. Thor is physically superior to Magneto. Comparing strength levels, Magneto is more like a little ant. Strength will most likely not factor into the fight much, but there are of course, numerous other things Thor can do. Weather control, energy absorption etc. etc. and he knows he needs to employ these powers quickly, since Magneto's powers affect Mjolnir. Thing is, not only can Thor summon it back, taking away Mjolnir doesn't necessarily take away Thor's powers. Thor channels his powers through Mjolnir, but things like weather control are still in his possession, just in a raw form. Also, we need to remind ourselves that Mags was able to do this way back in the 60s, and even then he could only actually deflect Mjolnir. Thor's powers have not only grown, but he'd be expecting this tactic.

Now, there are some things Thor can do with Mjolnir that Magneto has no defense against. To quote from the respect thread, which itself is taken from this site:

1)SPATIAL POWERS: A) Ability to materialized anywhere across the known Marvel Universe (Fantastic Four-#339, Thor-#165). B) Ability to create Dimensional portals or Rifts (Thor Annual#16, Avengers#309). Also, able to send an entire population to LIMBO for their own protection (Thor#192). C) In addition, Thor’s hammer has the capability to send just about ANY SENTIENT BEING to just about any other LOCATION in the known Universe-Avengers-#180 vs. the Monolith, or DIMENSIONS (the Fourth, the Fifth, the Sixth, or even the Seventh Dimension- it doesn’t matter) See- Avengers-#9, and Avengers-#16(vol.1), or even an ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE-Avengers-#7 (vol.1). Specifically, Thor doesn’t necessarily need to create a vortex to remove any immediate threat- See-Thor-# 279 vs. Ulik, Thor-#173, and Thor-#425 where a blast by Thor’s hammer ripped wide the fabric of the Universe itself and sent Surtur and Yimir to the Death Dimension. Thus, Thor can literally send anything, or anyone to the other side of the Galaxy thousands of light years away with just a mere magic bolt fired at his enemy. One of the GREATEST EXAMPLE of Thor’s Spatial capability occurred in Thor-#242, when Horus, Osiris, and Isis Giant Pyramid destroyed a significant portion of the Orange Groves (Trees) of San Diego, California when it sprouted from beneath the Earth in their search of Odin. All of then were all fully restored along with the vanishing of the great Pyramid by a vortex created by Thor’s MAGICAL hammer-as if the destruction that took place there never happened. Now, that’s power!!!! Another great example of Thor’s Spatial capability occurred when the hammer passed right through Kang’s Force Field and struck him as if the Force-Field was not present at all-See Avengers-Annual-#21. Kang was near death by the blow from Thor’s hammer. Therefore, characters like Magneto, Graviton, or even the Molecule Man are not, in fact, EXACTLY safe inside their Force-Field. In addition, Thor can call his hammer from even deep space; distance doesn’t seem to be an obstacle- Avengers-#19.

As you may note, it's all backed up by issue numbers. I suggest you read that page just to see how many things Thor is capable of, and how powerful he really is. Another passage especially relevant to Magneto:

5) POWER TO ABSORB: A) Thor's hammer can absorb limitless amount of energy. For instance, Thor's hammer absorbed the energy of a Null Bomb that was capable of destroying an entire Galaxy and turn it to Cosmic energy and Re-Ignite a Dead Sun (a Galaxy may contain 200 billion to 400 billions Solar Systems-depending on their relative size). B) In Avengers-#171, from a DISTANCE, Thor absorbed Ultron’s entire energy source with just a single blast from his hammer. C) Thor's hammer can, also, absorb other significant sources of energy including: Cosmic (Silver Surfer-#4), also, when Thor completely absorbed Sky-Walker’s Cosmic raging Tempest into his hammer-Thor-#305. Also, Radioactive energy (Avengers-#304), Magnetism (Thor#-387) where Thor absorbed a portion of the Planet of Pangoria’s Magnetic energy, and Magneto’s Personal Magnetic Field-JIM-#109; and Mystical- specifically, when he absorbed a significant mystical portion of EVERY Earth’s PANTHEON (Thor#301), and Pluto’s Deadly (mystical) Fire-Flame-#Thor-#223. In addition, Thor can absorb Magic from a DISTANCE-Avengers-#276. D) It’s important to, also, point out that Thor’s hammer can absorbed many of these particular sources of energy, and RETURN IT back to the originator; sometimes amplify many times over.

Note: It's really no wonder at all that Thor absorbed the Electromagnetic energies of the Celestial Mother-ship with such ease- see Thor#288.

Heck, Thor himself possesses the power of magnetism:

27) MAGNETISM: Thor can attract or magnetize Mechanical constructs into the ground, such as Flying Vehicles, Giant robots (JIM-#101,102), and even sentient beings like Loki. Thor attracted him when he was about to jump from a cliff-Avengers-#no.1. In addition, Thor’s hammer can create a MAGNETIC FIELD (a la Magneto) that enabled him to temporarily transport himself, Captain America, Sersi, Jarvis and Spiderman to a pre-determine destination-Avengers-#315. This makes quite a lot of sense since Thor’s power over Magnetism has been well documented since the creation of his character in the early 60’s.

So let's recap some things: Thor can just teleport Mags away, he can absorb his energies and also use magnetism himself. Now, it's fair to take into account Magneto's own capabilities, but they are often up and down. Last significant thing we've seen happen to him was being almost decapitated by Wolverine, a man practically made out of metal. Magneto's really been weakened since his more powerful eighties days. Before Excalibur, Magneto was trumped by a bunch of rookie X-Men, and I don't recall him doing anything impressive during Excalibur either.

It's no longer in Magneto's powers to defeat Thor. He'll put up a fight, but while Thor's powers remain strong and diverse, Magneto has sadly devolved into a one-trick pony. It's a matter of time before Mags falls to Thor's superior force.

WINNER=THOR

 

[Harlekin]

REBUTTAL: Thor vs Magneto

What I don't respond to I agree with.

Okay, as for the fight, there is one MAJOR factor in this fight that gives Magneto a huge advantage. Mjolnir is probably Thor's greatest offensive weapon and somethign he uses almost always, but it is still made of metal. Magneto can control Mjolnir. He has done it before even, driving it out of Thor grasp. Now, Thor can "summon" mjolnir back to him where it keeps coming back to his hands, but Magneto can simply hold it away with his powers.

First off, this was during the 60s, and in recent times Mags has been weakened. Secondly, he's never really taken control of Mjolnir as much as deflected it. Thirdly, Thor only needs the hammer for a few seconds time to do his thing. Lastly, wrestling the hammer out of Thor's grip will cost Mags a lot of energy, and Thor can just recall it each and every time, so obviously, Mags' effect on it isn't that great.

By taking away Mjolnir, Magneto takes away Thor's:
-weather control

Not true. Thor has control of the weather without the hammer, it's just a lot more raw.

Now, Thor is still no pushover with Mjolnir, and I would never say he is crippled without it, but you have to admit that by taking away Mjolnir, Magneto definately takes away some major powers of Thor. In fact, really the only thing that isn't directly affected by mjolnir is his physical strength and his endurance.

Thing is, Magneto can't keep away Mjolnir and actually attack Thor at the same time. Not only is the magic of Mjolnir stronger than that, Mags needs to make a choice between constantly keeping it away from Thor or engaging him, allowing Thor to have his hammer. In both scenarios, Magneto ends up losing.

Now, as for his strength, Thor is strong. I know, it's a crazy thing to say, but it's true. The problem is that Magneto's shields are MORE than capable of standing up to a physical assault from Thor. Especially without his hammer.

I'm pretty sure that's the Eric Masterson Thor, who was weaker than the normal Thor. Secondly, not only has Thor punched his way through Magneto's shield before (which you can read about in the updated respect thread, Magneto has been weakened since then, and especially in the latter 90s, Mags went through some major power decreases. He can no longer stand up to that kind of strength, especially not if he wants to keep Mjolnor away at the same time.

Magneto has tons of ways to use his powers and can even make himself a class 100 as well. He has even broken out of a bear hug form Hercules (old strong version) that threw Hercules off his feet. He also has energy blasts that would definately wear down Thor. Another thing he can do is simply reverse the gravity around Thor making him helplessly float in the air and strike him from there. Remember, without Mjolnir, Thro can't fly so he would be in a terrible defensive position there.

- Thor has power over gravity and magnetism as well.
- Thor can absorb energy blasts.
- Mags can't pull of these things and keep Mjolnir away at the same time. He needs to make a choice. Letting Thor keep Mjolnir is a better defense and offensive move for Magneto, but it won't make a difference in the long run.

Plus, the location DOES have a huge amount of metal there for Magneto to grab a hold of and pummel Thor with.

Which he again, cannot do unless he lets go of Mjolnir.

Yes, it would take a while to knock out Thor with metal girders and 2 ton machines, but it would definately happen. Thor is very powerful, but he still has his limits. He isn't invincible.

If Magneto can muster up the strength of the Hulk in doing so, I would agree with you, but he can't. It would take a very long time to take down Thor this way, and that is only in the case that Thor would somehow be unable to defend himself.

Another thing Magneto could do that he has shown a fondness for in the years is actualyl making Thor collapse by basically giving him a brain anuerysm. He can stop the flow of blood in the body or remove the iron in his blood making him collapse. And even though he is Asgardian, every single bio I have read states that "asgardians are like humans only denser" meaning that basically everything else is the same, only more of it. So this could still work on Thor even though he is an Asgardian.

Besides being denser, his overall endurance is much better. He can resist this kind of attack. And to call it a "fondness" is not completely true. He's used it sparingly, and when it comes to actual combat, he foregoes it in favour of engaging his foes directly.

He can take control of Mjolnir giving him a major advantage in this fight.

At the cost of him being able to do anything else, thus losing that advantage.

It would still be a long fight, but Magneto has too many ways to hurt Thor and physically Thor cannot hurt Magneto.

Which is, of course, untrue, as Thor has been shown to be capable of that.

Thor is simply too powerful and too versatile for Magneto at this point. Were this Magneto during the 80s or early 90s, I'd give him a much better chance. As it stands, he'll be able to put up a fight, but he won't last.

WINNER=THOR

 

[kytrigger]

Rebuttal

OPENING COMMENTS: Thor vs Magneto

Okay, this is a huge and fun battle. Before we start, I'd like to apologize for the lateness of this, I have had some trouble motivating myself lately. It's purely my own fault. Either way, we've got an interesting battle, and I don't think Providence will still be up in the air at the end of it. These two characters have met one another before, and they know each others' capabilities quite well.

I'm not going to bother posting powers, since really, you either know them, or you can look up Thor here, here, here and some info on Mjolnir here. If you'd like to read up on some Thor feats, please go here. For links on Magneto, well, my opponent will supply those.

Let's get some other basic things out of the way. Thor is physically superior to Magneto. Comparing strength levels, Magneto is more like a little ant. Strength will most likely not factor into the fight much, but there are of course, numerous other things Thor can do. Weather control, energy absorption etc. etc. and he knows he needs to employ these powers quickly, since Magneto's powers affect Mjolnir. Thing is, not only can Thor summon it back, taking away Mjolnir doesn't necessarily take away Thor's powers. Thor channels his powers through Mjolnir, but things like weather control are still in his possession, just in a raw form. Also, we need to remind ourselves that Mags was able to do this way back in the 60s, and even then he could only actually deflect Mjolnir. Thor's powers have not only grown, but he'd be expecting this tactic.

Now, there are some things Thor can do with Mjolnir that Magneto has no defense against. To quote from the respect thread, which itself is taken from this site:


As you may note, it's all backed up by issue numbers. I suggest you read that page just to see how many things Thor is capable of, and how powerful he really is. Another passage especially relevant to Magneto:



Heck, Thor himself possesses the power of magnetism:


So let's recap some things: Thor can just teleport Mags away, he can absorb his energies and also use magnetism himself. Now, it's fair to take into account Magneto's own capabilities, but they are often up and down. Last significant thing we've seen happen to him was being almost decapitated by Wolverine, a man practically made out of metal. Magneto's really been weakened since his more powerful eighties days. Before Excalibur, Magneto was trumped by a bunch of rookie X-Men, and I don't recall him doing anything impressive during Excalibur either.

It's no longer in Magneto's powers to defeat Thor. He'll put up a fight, but while Thor's powers remain strong and diverse, Magneto has sadly devolved into a one-trick pony. It's a matter of time before Mags falls to Thor's superior force.

WINNER=THOR

REBUTTAL: Thor vs Magneto

What I don't respond to I agree with.


First off, this was during the 60s, and in recent times Mags has been weakened. Secondly, he's never really taken control of Mjolnir as much as deflected it. Thirdly, Thor only needs the hammer for a few seconds time to do his thing. Lastly, wrestling the hammer out of Thor's grip will cost Mags a lot of energy, and Thor can just recall it each and every time, so obviously, Mags' effect on it isn't that great.


Not true. Thor has control of the weather without the hammer, it's just a lot more raw.


Thing is, Magneto can't keep away Mjolnir and actually attack Thor at the same time. Not only is the magic of Mjolnir stronger than that, Mags needs to make a choice between constantly keeping it away from Thor or engaging him, allowing Thor to have his hammer. In both scenarios, Magneto ends up losing.


I'm pretty sure that's the Eric Masterson Thor, who was weaker than the normal Thor. Secondly, not only has Thor punched his way through Magneto's shield before (which you can read about in the updated respect thread, Magneto has been weakened since then, and especially in the latter 90s, Mags went through some major power decreases. He can no longer stand up to that kind of strength, especially not if he wants to keep Mjolnor away at the same time.


- Thor has power over gravity and magnetism as well.
- Thor can absorb energy blasts.
- Mags can't pull of these things and keep Mjolnir away at the same time. He needs to make a choice. Letting Thor keep Mjolnir is a better defense and offensive move for Magneto, but it won't make a difference in the long run.


Which he again, cannot do unless he lets go of Mjolnir.


If Magneto can muster up the strength of the Hulk in doing so, I would agree with you, but he can't. It would take a very long time to take down Thor this way, and that is only in the case that Thor would somehow be unable to defend himself.


Besides being denser, his overall endurance is much better. He can resist this kind of attack. And to call it a "fondness" is not completely true. He's used it sparingly, and when it comes to actual combat, he foregoes it in favour of engaging his foes directly.


At the cost of him being able to do anything else, thus losing that advantage.


Which is, of course, untrue, as Thor has been shown to be capable of that.

Thor is simply too powerful and too versatile for Magneto at this point. Were this Magneto during the 80s or early 90s, I'd give him a much better chance. As it stands, he'll be able to put up a fight, but he won't last.

WINNER=THOR

First off sorry about the lateness of posting this rebuttal. I've been pretty busy and when I have been online I have been in teh E3 threads mostly and bascially forgot about this.

With that said, since this is so late, I will just rebutt a couple of ideas/opinions as oppossed to every part that way if Harlekin sees it in time, he can rebutt easily as well as oppossed to being pressed for time.

1. Harlekin said that Magneto isn't nearly as strong as he was in those screens and has been depowered quite a bit. I completely disagree. There has never been an official "depowering" of Magneto that has ever lasted (like House of M and stuff) and in recent year he has shown many more abilities than he ever did in the old days. He has shown to be able to use the entire electromagnetic sprectrum including using things like Dazzler's light and sound manipulation against her whereas before he was basically shown at just using metal manipulation. If anything, he has far better control of his powers than he used to.

Plus, while many might disagree with those screens I posted, they did happen and are canon. It's kind of like with the Hulk where people don't always like using some of his older feats and whatnot because they seem stupid, but they still do exist. Tossing them to the side because they are simply old doesn't really qualify as objective.

2. The idea that Magneto can only control Mjolnir and do nothing else at the same time is kinda ridiculous as well. He has shown many times that he can multitask.

3. I was wrong about the weather control being in Mjolnir. However, a thing to remember is that Thor's weather isn't actually magical, it's still normal weather. Magneto has actually taken Storm's lightning and absorbed it making him even more powerful before. Since this seems like Thor's most like weather based attack, it could actually hurt Thor more than help him, and I don't see strong wind bursts really affecting Magneto at all either.

4. Thor does have power over magnetism, but he has never in any way shown it to be on the level of Magneto. If Thor for some reason actually went this route and fought magneto with magnetism powers, I htink he would regret it VERY quickly.



Magneto has faced Thor before, and then, it was Thor with the entire Avengers. he has not only manipulated Mjolnir several times, but he has also shown that he CAN block Thor's blows with his forcefield.



Winner- Magneto

 

[Harlekin]

REBUTTAL: Thor vs Magneto

Don't worry about the lateness. I was late myself.

1. Harlekin said that Magneto isn't nearly as strong as he was in those screens and has been depowered quite a bit. I completely disagree. There has never been an official "depowering" of Magneto that has ever lasted (like House of M and stuff) and in recent year he has shown many more abilities than he ever did in the old days. He has shown to be able to use the entire electromagnetic sprectrum including using things like Dazzler's light and sound manipulation against her whereas before he was basically shown at just using metal manipulation. If anything, he has far better control of his powers than he used to.

Depends on how you see "they didn't last". Ever since the fall of Avalon, Magneto has been gradually depowered. One of those times is during the Magneto War, where afterwards, he couldn't even lift his helmet. He got repowered eventually, but never showed as much power again as he used to have. He didn't really use Dazzler's powers against her, as that was all an eloborate plan to make him think he had defeated the X-Men (and killed Dazzler), when in fact, he hadn't.

Plus, while many might disagree with those screens I posted, they did happen and are canon. It's kind of like with the Hulk where people don't always like using some of his older feats and whatnot because they seem stupid, but they still do exist. Tossing them to the side because they are simply old doesn't really qualify as objective.

I'm not saying they aren't canon. I'm just saying they are from forty years ago and that's a different Magneto and Thor. While Thor has only gotten more powerful (although he's had his ups and downs), Magneto has been gradually depowered since the latter half of the 90's.

2. The idea that Magneto can only control Mjolnir and do nothing else at the same time is kinda ridiculous as well. He has shown many times that he can multitask.

It's not so ridiculous when you think about the exertion Magneto would have to employ in doing this. As even shown back then, Magneto could only deflect Mjolnir, and the only reason Thor didn't get it back was because he was limited by the 60-second rule at that time and it reverted to a cane. Thing is, if Magneto takes the hammer, Thor will recall it, and magic trumps his powers. If Magneto wants to keep the hammer away from Thor, he will have to focus exclusively on that. That's a death sentence.

3. I was wrong about the weather control being in Mjolnir. However, a thing to remember is that Thor's weather isn't actually magical, it's still normal weather. Magneto has actually taken Storm's lightning and absorbed it making him even more powerful before. Since this seems like Thor's most like weather based attack, it could actually hurt Thor more than help him, and I don't see strong wind bursts really affecting Magneto at all either.

Thor mostly goes for normal energy blasts etc. Weather control, although one of his chief abilities, isn't used as often as you would expect from him. Even then, I was mostly pointing out the fact that he doesn't need Mjolnir for his weather control.

4. Thor does have power over magnetism, but he has never in any way shown it to be on the level of Magneto. If Thor for some reason actually went this route and fought magneto with magnetism powers, I htink he would regret it VERY quickly.

I never suggested Thor would go on the offensive with this power. That would just be stupid, and Thor's far from stupid. He can however use it to defend himself. Then again, as I've shown, there are quite a few things Thor can to do defend from or attack Magneto as is.

Magneto has faced Thor before, and then, it was Thor with the entire Avengers. he has not only manipulated Mjolnir several times, but he has also shown that he CAN block Thor's blows with his forcefield.

Several times is an overstatement. He deflected it once or twice. He's been weakened since his battles with Thor, and I'm still pretty sure those scans show the weakened Thor. Magneto wouldn't be able to last all too long against Thor's blasts and raw strength.

WINNER=THOR

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!!!

 

[Phaedrus45]

*Thor - (This is really a flip for me. The location could possibly be Magneto's advantage, as he can control so much of it to hurt Thor. But, Harlekin switched me mind. Either way, Thor is going to have his hands full next round. I'd hate to see Bracket 4 go down to a push; so, let's have Ky pick his best player to take on Thor. Personally, you'll see who I think should advance in that bracket.)

*Sersi - (We've seen the various Hulks get beat two seasons in a row. I think Sersi has a better chance against future opponents; but, Advance Hulk vs. Thor might would be a great match, too.)

 

[Harlekin]

Thor
Maestro - I'm going with my gut feeling on this one.

 

[Darren Daring]

Thor
Maestro

 

[POWdER-man]

this was a toss up for me but I vote for Thor
Sersi

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Thor - but with difficulty
Maestro - nobody was ever able to rearrange Hulk's anatomy and I believe he even went up agianst Sersi once. One thing Hulk is not too popular here gioven his loss earlier in the tournament.