Contest of Marvels II Thread 1

[Zoken]

Ronan
Hellstrom
Dock Ock
Iron Lad

 

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Ronan currently beating Living Lightning 7-1
Damien Hellstrom currently beating Namor 8-0
Doctor Octopus currently beating Brainchild 5-3
Iron Lad currently beating Monet St. Croix 5-3

 

[Darren Daring]

Ronan
Damien Hellstrom (Goodbye, Sweet Prince)
Doctor Octopus
Monet St. Croix

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Ronan - the evidence is a bit too emphatic
Hellstorm
Doc Ock
Monet (i saw Iron Lad and given her powers, she should take him)

 

[Iceman]

Ronan - the scans are pretty conclusive
Hellstrom - I've got to avoid meeting this character in any future rounds. Well constructed debate by Harlekin but a shame there's no defence for Namor
Doc Ock
Monet

 

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Ronan currently beating Living Lightning 10-1
Damien Hellstrom currently beating Namor 11-0
Doctor Octopus currently beating Brainchild 8-3
Monet St. Croix currently beating Iron Lad 6-5

 

[JewishHobbit]

Ronan
Damien
Brainchild
Monet (though one though, I love both these characters)

 

[Phaedrus45]

Final Results:

Ronan beat Living Lightning 11-1
Damien Hellstrom beat Namor 12-0
Doctor Octopus beat Brainchild 8-4
Monet St. Croix beat Iron Lad 7-5

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 1,

Match 1:

Helix (WIEGEABO) bio

vs.

Strong Guy (WIEGEABO) bio

Match 2:

Donald Pierce (ICEMAN/PSYLOCKE) bio

vs.

Iron Man (PHAEDRUS45) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2,

Match 1:

Sasquatch (MIDNIGHT ICE) bio

vs.

Mastermind (DARTHPHERE) bio

Match 2:

Sunfire - Famine (JEWISHHOBBIT) bio

vs.

Magnus - Exiles (HELLSTORMER) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

LOCATION: MUIR ISLAND

Muir Island is a small, fictional island off of the northern coast of Scotland in the Marvel Comic Universe. It plays a prominent role in the X-Men comics and its related series.

History

Muir Island's significance stems from the fact that it is the home of Earth's largest and most comprehensive mutant research complex, located to the north of Scotland, founded by Dr. Moira MacTaggert. Originally, she created the facility to help her son, Kevin (a.k.a. Proteus), an extremely powerful and destructive mutant.
Muir Island's facility holds a wealth of knowledge on various mutants, their abilities, and other mutant-related issues and concerns (such as the Legacy Virus). It was also once the home base of the X-Men spin-off superhero team Excalibur.
The island has sometimes been used to imprison mutants for various reasons. Most notably, Spoor and Magneto.
The staff has included, at times, Rahne Sinclaire AKA Wolfsbane, Rory Campbell, Jamie Madrox and, seen in various comics, multiple un-named scientists.
The island and its research center have come under attack by many villains, including Magneto, the Acolytes, the Shadow King, Galactus, Phalanx, Black Air, The Mutant Liberation Front, Spiral, Legacy, Bastion and Proteus. The island's facilities were destroyed during the Muir Island Saga. Although rebuilt, the Muir Island Genetic Research Center was destroyed again in an attack byMystique and Sabretooth.

(THE LOCATION IS SET RIGHT BEFORE THE MUIR ISLAND SAGA.)

 

[Canadian Rider]

Helix
IronMan
Mastermind
Magnus

 

[kytrigger]

Helix
IronMan
Mastermind
Magnus

Oy vey t: . Just so you know Canadian Rider, we debate these matches up until closing time on tuesday, and then everyone votes based off of the debates. There are some rules as to who's allowed to vote, but I think you are eligible to vote with us (Phaedrus 45 and Jewhob will be able to tell you for sure). So hopefully Tuesday you'll come back, read the debates and vote.

 

[Hellstormer]

Helix
IronMan
Mastermind
Magnus

1 vote for Magnus and I didn't even start.

 

[wiegeabo]

It doesn't count until Phead opens the polls.

 

[Canadian Rider]

Ah. Sorry about that. The same applies for all the Marvel Contests then?

That's cool. I will come back if that is okay. I love the Vs. threads. Great way to learn about other characters and what people know about them.

If someone can PM that would be cool.

Jumped the gun ... like a good Rider

 

[wiegeabo]

Strong Guy vs Helix

Since I own both characters, I'm not going to make any arguments either way.

But I want to hear everyone else's arguments about who should go on. I may even play devil's advocate and rebutt or question some things.


someone wins

 

[Canadian Rider]

One more quickie?

Who can provide input? Love the debates too

 

[wiegeabo]

Ah. Sorry about that. The same applies for all the Marvel Contests then?

That's cool. I will come back if that is okay. I love the Vs. threads. Great way to learn about other characters and what people know about them.

If someone can PM that would be cool.

Jumped the gun ... like a good Rider

For all the contests in this tourney, yeah, voting opens Tuesday. But check back to all four threads often to read debates.

And no contributing to the debates between two opponents.

 

[Phaedrus45]

One more quickie?

Who can provide input? Love the debates too

Yes, the only time you can provide a debate is if two characters are owned by the same opponent, like my match this week with Professor Power vs. Yellow Claw or Wiegeabo's match with Helix vs. Strong Guy.

When voting begins on Tuesday (which cannot happen until I post "Voting May Begin"), you can make your vote and make a very brief statement why you voted a particular way. Again, you must read all the debates before you vote, and while they don't have to be your only reason for voting the way you do, it's highly encouraged that your vote takes them into account.

 

[Canadian Rider]

I think I understand. So for the two matches as you noted, people can provide input / debates?

Then when the voting open you / anyone places votes and then says why they voted a certain way?

I will read back through the thread carefully but if that is mostly correct I think I got it!

Cool. Thanks all.

 

[Canadian Rider]

Reread the posts and now I get it.

Thanks all! Cool !

 

[Phaedrus45]

I think I understand. So for the two matches as you noted, people can provide input / debates?

Then when the voting open you / anyone places votes and then says why they voted a certain way?

I will read back through the thread carefully but if that is mostly correct I think I got it!

Cool. Thanks all.

Yep, you've got it. The reason why you can debate in any match where both characters are owned by a single participant is because the owner can choose whoever he wants to advance, regardless of the outcome of voting. So, while the owner gets screwed in the fact he might have to lose one of his best characters, he gets the advantage of looking ahead to Round 3 and seeing who his next match will be against, THEN decide which character is better handled to face that opponent.

 

[Hellstormer]

Match 2:

Sunfire - Famine (JEWISHHOBBIT) bio

vs.

Magnus - Exiles (HELLSTORMER) bio

This is a pretty even battle. Now the powers are as follows:

Sunfire:

• Flight
• Plasma blasts
• Ability to view infra-red
• Radiation immunity

As Horsemen of Famine:

• Ability to emit hunger-inducing light?

Magnus:Control of electromagnetic energies
Force field generation
Energy blasts
Flight
Flesh-to-flesh contact is lethal, transforming other beings into solid steel.

This is by no means one-sides. Now In Magnuses dimension Muir Island is where he was held for a limited time, but I'm sure its very different. Neither would really have information but Sunfire can scope out the local.

As far as the actually battle, Muir Island has a lot of metal and since Sunfire will probaly be caught offguard this could be bad for him. Magnus can take the entire medical facility and turn it into a gaint beam cannon channeling and increases his force blasts with increased strength. Meaning he's in a fortress with a forcefield around it and a giant cannon. Any time Sunfire tries to damage it Magnus'll just repair it.

Another stratefy is holding Sunfire in a metal ball w/ a forcefield and slowly crush him.

Winner=Magnus

 

[JewishHobbit]

Sunfire Vs Magnus

My first thought on this match was that Magnus has it, sadly. However, the more I think of it, the more I think Sunfire has a real chance. Magnus is powerful and has a greater array of powers, but Sunfire is Famine, and his Famine ability will be what turns the tide. When the battle begins, I picture Sunfure blazing about while searching for Magnus, and Magnus remaining hidden. I can see Magnus attacking first by warping some of the metal around him and sending it after Sunfire. I doubt this will really help, as Sunfire can melt metal with the intensity of his heat.

Now the thing that will help Sunfire win this match is that he can effect anyone looking at him with flashes of light that cause the most extreme cases of hunger you can imagine. When he did it in the Blood of Apocalypse, it made long time x-characters like Sally Blevins and Karma question their cause and come to Apocalypse' will. It made the Sentinel ONE soldiers betray their stations (knowing they would be fired as a result) so that they may find food. It basically drove all of the 198 to madness. One flash of this light will take away any coherant thinking that Magnus may have and will be torcher for him. Sunfire can find him then (as Muir isn't a large place) and attack.

Granted, Magnus is powerful, but he is no Magneto. He may be his son, but nothing that I've seen in his few Exiles appearnaces show him to be anywhere near that level. He was able to mold metal, but he did it into spheres and things for flying, etc. He did make soem credit cards and a cerebro, but it wasn't functionable at all unless he had other telepaths to work it. He mostly just molded metal in small fashions. He did do some important stuff in the end with making dozens of metal spheres to save people, and he made a big sphere to hold in an atomic bomb... and those are his only saving grace of being anywhere near Magneto....

However, that was him focusing hard on saving the lives of everyone involved. At this moment, due to Famine's effect, he is concintrating on this match maybe 25% if that. The hunger that eats away at him will claim most of his thinking and all it will take is the quick and atomic Famine to get in with a huge atomic blast and Magnus' head will be burnt off his body.

Magnus is a boy with self esteme issues. He has experience, but I can't say it's much, and he is afraid to use his metal touch (which is why he encases himself). Even so, Famine is quick and always flying, so he won't have a chance to use it. Magnus' only defense is using the metal of the island against Sunfire, but he won't be able to focus to use it anyhow, and in the end Sunfire's long experience and horsement cruelty will allow him to get the blow in that will take Magnus out.

Winner - Sunfire (Famine)