Contest of Marvels II Thread 1

[hippy fascist]

NATHANIEL "CABLE" GREY vs mimic


Ok my argument is simple on this one. Cable's range greatly exceeds mimic's. as a result mimic will have to get in close to cable to leech his powers.

He will have to find Cable amidst the hundreds of rooms (this place is practically a mile wide).

Cable will have a full knowledge of the area from his various connections whereas mimic will not as he is from another reality

Cable will be smart enough to be and tech savy enough to turn the prison's security systems against mimic.

He will have an idea of how mimic's powers work as they are very similar to those of 616 mimic so he will stay well out of his way using his telepathy to pinpoint mimics location and keeping a minimum distance of about 50 metres between them.

The real crux of my argument however came to me in a dream...

Have you ever played goldeneye on the n64? Do you remember the farsight? I used to hate that gun as anyone who got it could see through walls, and shoot through walls meaning they could target anyone anywhere and were virtually unkillable.

Cable's powers are telepathic with a massive range. He doesn't have to search through rooms to find mimic. He can simply scan the area, isolate his brain pattern and put mimic to sleep, fight over.

All of mimic's powers mean nothing since he has little or no psychic defenses. He's great in hand to hand but sadly he won't get a touch of cable's powers and even if he did he would be ill experienced and only at 4/7ths of cable's power. Cable has been using his abiliteis for years and they are fine tuned. Even if it came to a psychic duel cable would win.There really is no way for mimic to win this. He can't sneak up on cable and jump him from behind. He couldn't penetrate cable's shields if it came to hand to hand, and even then they have equal strength (cable is class 25 due to his arm remember!)

Cable's going to make this as short and painless as possible but ultimately he will walk away the victor. The man' a better tactician, equally strong, has plenty of opportunities to put mimic to sleep before he gets in close, has shields to protect him. Has weaponry that could tear through mimic's hide (only HALF as strong as that of colossus) and his healing factor is only half as good as deadpool's meaning that if cable did blow a hole in him it would take him an long enough to heal that it could be classed as an incapacitation. Really mimic doesnt stand a chance.

WINNER: CABLE!

 

[hippy fascist]

Juggernaut vs Spider-Man

I hate to do it

I really hate to do it

No part of me wants to knock spidey out this early in the contest...

...but sadly those are the cards I've been dealt so here we go! t:

Quick scan of juggernauts powers

Because of his association with the X-Men, Juggernaut is often mistakenly labeled a mutant. Juggernaut is considered a mutate, a normal human that was changed by the Ruby of Cyttorak. The ruby bonded to his soul and altered his being, giving him powers exceeding those of most 'Homo Superior.' The ruby is the root of his power, not genetic evolution.

Juggernaut traditionally possessed vast power of mystical origin. He had tremendous strength, a total resistance to physical injury due to his mystic spell of invulnerability; an impenetrable force field that he could summon at will and unlimited stamina. His spell also granted him unbreakable skin, therefore making his forcefield an added protection in case he did not wish for a certain attack to touch his physical body. Due to the mystical energies flowing through his body, he did not need to eat, breathe or drink fluids. As a vessel of mystic energy, he also possessed many abstract powers that had yet to be fully revealed. Finally, while moving he was, essentially, unstoppable, except in extreme cases such as when Thor united his godly power with his magical hammer and fired a concentrated beam at Juggernaut (Juggernaut did not force ahead again before the ground collapsed underneath them), and the psychic being Onslaught.

So in otherwords it's takes the entire power of one of asgard's most powerful or a supervillain who won a fight against every hero in the marvel universe, at once!

Juggy's no genius but he's not a moron either, he's faught spidey (usually juggy solo and spidey with an entire team to back him up) So he'll know spidey will be laying a trap for him. As a result of this he's going to simply bring the whole prison down. All he hasto do is get a run up of about a metre or two and he can run from one side of the prison to the other smashing through EVERYTHING in his path. Do this two or three times, at different angles and the whole place will come down. Crushing spidey. Cain on the other hand can simply shrug any debris off since he's invulnerable. Simple clean and quick

WINNER: JUGGERNAUT!

 

[hippy fascist]

This battle is gonna be pretty much even and I'll explain why. To my knowledge this is regular Cable before he got all tech. Now Cable is a version of X-Man with hindered abilities because of his T-O virus which puts him around 7/8's the ability of X-Man.

Agreed, apart from the part about it being even.

Mimic on the other hand has the ability to copy half the abilities of 5 different mutants.

Half of their power... so he only get's 50 % efficiency on healing factors, half the length and strength in his bone claws, HALF the power of cyclop's optic blast.

Now Mimic has a great advantage because he can use the Crystal PLace which is a extradimensional palace with bios of all other world's and a teleportation system he can use to look at the battlefield. In this case the Raft. He'll study the field and find vantage points to help him.

this will be limited at best, cable will be able to get blue-prints. Far superior

Also vantage points won't help him, cable is a telepath, surprise attacks are completely out of the question.

Now the actual battle will begin with Mimic biding his time to absorb Cable's power in exchange for his Beast agility. This'll put him at 4/8's the ability of X-man...

he wouldn't get close enough, cable will be able to tell where he is at all times so will be able to maintain distance, like radar.

but wait he also has

Steel Skin [at 50% so on a par with police body armour, can you say armour piercing bullets?]
Super Strength [ 50% of a class 50 =25, same class as cable]
Super Speed [50% so not nearly fast enough to search the prison in time]
Optic Blast [again at 50%, cable's shields should hold up to this, assuming he gets close enough to use it]
Bone Claws [Gonna be kind of brittle since they're only 50% durability and length]
Healing Factor [50% so any major wound would take to long to heal resulting in incpacitation]
Acute Senses [50% and not nearly as acute as cable's telepathy ]

50%

This'll put him at a huge advantage seeing as how Cable has no idea who he is and Mimic likes to use his powers one at a time as not to give away everything he can do.

There was a 616 mimic with very similar powers so I'm sure cable will work it out

He'll probaly start out with Colossus's armor and Wolverine's claws to fight hand-to-hand with Cable.

a) cable would have put him to sleep by then
b) a class 25 could still rip a 50% durability colossus's arm off

Mental attacks will harm him a little until he gets the mental capabilities, then its show time.

If cable wants to he can simply reach inside mimic's mind and fiddle around so he spends the rest of his days convinced he's a pink bunny rabbit. That's more than hurting him a little.

This'll let Mimic block the incoming telepathy attacks and force Cable to fight physically. Now Cable is a great strategist and tactician, he also is very good with weapons (mostly firearms). But this stuff will have no affect against a metal covered Mimic with 1/2 of Wolverine's healing ability. Not to mention eye beams he can use if it gets that far.

This battle has pretty much everything going the right way for Mimic.

Winner=Mimic

Finally you admit to this in some small way. The problem with mimic is that he is a jack of all trades, master of none. He is going up against a specialist in cable. Cable is one of, if not the most powerful telepaths in the marvel u, going up against a guy who is quite good with 5 powers.

Even if mimic did get cable's powers it would come down to a psychic contest and cable would win. Simple fact if mimic is to protect himself from cable's attacks it would require extreme concentration, cable on the other hand doesn't as he would be so much more powerful, this leaves cable free to shoot at mimic with armour piercing rounds from one of his massive tank destroyer guns. mimic would have to concentrate so hard just to defend himself that he wouldn't be able to attack in any form. His 50% colossus skin really would take that much of a beating from cable's futuristic weaponry and then he'd be dead. But of course this is all moot as without psychic defenses cable would simply shut him down the second the battle started.

WINNER: CABLE!

 

[Hellstormer]

Ok my argument is simple on this one. Cable's range greatly exceeds mimic's. as a result mimic will have to get in close to cable to leech his powers.

He will have to find Cable amidst the hundreds of rooms (this place is practically a mile wide).

How can you say that when there's no proof? Mimic never said he was out of range...ever. He was able to absorb Phoenix's power from at least 1/2 a mile. So to say that you magically no that is a bit void.

Cable will have a full knowledge of the area from his various connections whereas mimic will not as he is from another reality

Mimic was in the Exiles when they were atn the Crystal Place where there's machinery set up to view every world, and portals used to travel to the worlds. Meaning not only can Mimic get info, he can go there and find his vantage points.

Cable will be smart enough to be and tech savy enough to turn the prison's security systems against mimic.

No because Mimic'll have already done that.

He will have an idea of how mimic's powers work as they are very similar to those of 616 mimic so he will stay well out of his way using his telepathy to pinpoint mimics location and keeping a minimum distance of about 50 metres between them.

Mimic has Northstar speed, he'll find Cable first.

The real crux of my argument however came to me in a dream...

Have you ever played goldeneye on the n64?

Best N64 game ever!

Do you remember the farsight?

I used to hate that gun as anyone who got it could see through walls, and shoot through walls meaning they could target anyone anywhere and were virtually unkillable.

Hmmm can't say I do but ok....

Cable's powers are telepathic with a massive range. He doesn't have to search through rooms to find mimic. He can simply scan the area, isolate his brain pattern and put mimic to sleep, fight over.

Mimic'll be moving to fast and by the ime he gets a hold on him Mimic'll have the necessary powers to block him.

All of mimic's powers mean nothing since he has little or no psychic defenses. He's great in hand to hand but sadly he won't get a touch of cable's powers and even if he did he would be ill experienced and only at 4/7ths of cable's power. Cable has been using his abiliteis for years and they are fine tuned. Even if it came to a psychic duel cable would win.There really is no way for mimic to win this. He can't sneak up on cable and jump him from behind. He couldn't penetrate cable's shields if it came to hand to hand, and even then they have equal strength (cable is class 25 due to his arm remember!)

Yea but I just realized that in Exiles issue 68 Mimic swaps out Beast's agility for Deadpool's power's meaning he'll not only have the healing factor but the psychic immunity, this battle will become hand-to-hand and Mimic is fast, stronger (Colossus and Deadpool, not to mention healing factors (1/2 of Logan's + 1/2 of Deadpool's=Better then Wolverine because Deadpool > Wolverine)and claws.)

Cable's going to make this as short and painless as possible but ultimately he will walk away the victor. The man' a better tactician, equally strong, has plenty of opportunities to put mimic to sleep before he gets in close, has shields to protect him.

Did he survive on the Brood homeworld? Lead a team of reality hopping mutants? Or become an Avenger? I'lll admit the shields will be a pain but Mimic will break him dwon once he has some of Cable's psychics.

Has weaponry that could tear through mimic's hide (only HALF as strong as that of colossus) and his healing factor is only half as good as deadpool's meaning that if cable did blow a hole in him it would take him an long enough to heal that it could be classed as an incapacitation. Really mimic doesnt stand a chance.

HEALING FACTOR that's BETTER THEN WOLVERINES plus Colossus's armor!!! He doesn't have a weapon that can beat that.

Now a clarification of Mimic's powers during this battle since my first one was wrong. (He absorbed Deadpool's in Exiles #68 i.e. before the comp started)

Colossus:

1. Steel Skin
2. Super Strength

Wolverine:

1. Bone Claws
2. Healing Factor
3. Acute Senses

Deadpool:

1. Regenerative Healing Factor
2. Superhuman strength, speed, endurance and agility,
3. Psychic immunity,
4. Instantaneous reflexes

Super Speed <--Northstar

Optic Blast <-- Cyclops probaly will be swapped for Cable's

Deadpool's healing factor is legendary, 1/2 of it plus 1/2 of Wolverine's makes him even above Wolverine's level. The competition is done.

Winner=Mimic

EDIT: I'd like to also make a note that when Mimic is in his organic steel form and puts out his claws they also get covered in metal.

 

[hippy fascist]

Spiderman Vs Juggernaut

I think this is one of those matches where the location is going to pull the match to my side.

Not really, it's just a REALLY big REALLY heavy building for Juggs to bring down on spidey's head.

The location is a big advantage because, not only has Spiderman been there, but he has full access to it through the New Avengers files. This is the place that actually pulled them together, so once Spidey realizes that he's facing Juggernaut in the Raft, he'll know to start reseraching.

Whereas juggy has been in pretty much every high tech prison on the planet at some point and will at the very least know someone who has been locked up on the raft. He'll have the info he needs to know to keep it outside unless he's smashing through the building to bring it down on spidey's head

He's fought Juggernaut plenty of times, but usually with another team at his side, so he knows that he's going to have to improvise.

Exactly, also, as the raft is quite enclosed spideys movement and therefore speed is going to be severely limited. While juggernaut can simply smash through anything in his path, spidey has to move around things and can't webswing inside, meaning that juggernaut would easily catch up to him and we all know that spidey can't face down juggs in a straight brawl.

I figure that he'll probably look through all the inmates that have been there and figure out how they were kept depowered and such. He's obviously inteligent and will be able to figure out how to launch any power inhibitors if needed. He'll know that several of the prisoners that have been there have had magical powers and they were inhibited, and he'll also know that some cells were designed for people with strength that challenge Juggernaut himself. That said, all he has to do is figure out how to make a cell Juggernaut proof, or just find one that could already work for juggernaut.

He won't have the time for all this juggs will have brought the roof down by the time he's gotten everything in to place.

So when the match begins, Spidey will be all resourced. I have several ways that I can think of where Spidey can win this match. When it begins, he'll find the main control room of the Raft (he may even have a blueprint with him to help, or at least a print out. I dont' think this would be stretching since he's a New Avenger and the Raft is in their files). Also, I know he'd take time in the main computer room, but it's not exactly hard to hide from Juggernaut. First off, he has spidey sence, secondly, Juggernaut will just be destroying things. He can be heard. Also, Juggy won't know where the room is and wont' know where to go. It'd be a big coincidense if Juggy just happens to go to the control room first. So anyhow, the match begins and Spidey can do one of several things....

I'll do these one at a time, they're all moot as he's simply going to bring the building down but i'm willing to humour you

Scenerio 1: He can find a cell that held such people as Wrecker, Molecule Man, etc. that may be strong enough or able to dampen his magically given talents. He'll simply lead Juggy into that direction by taunting him, etc, and when Juggy is led into the cell Spidey will double back and seal the door. The cell should then be able to hold the Juggernaut (as that's what the prison is designed for) and he's then left stranded and incapacitated.

This is demonic magic we're talking about. The kind of thing you need doctor strange to help you with, mere power dampeners aren't going to stop him. Also every time juggs has been imprisoned he has to have been trussed up hannibal lecter style. If he gets even so much as the slightest bit of momentum he is unstoppable. This is one of those deus ex machina powers that the writers like to throw in, moving in a straight line, anything in the way gets out of the way or get's smashed. It has taken the full power of thor (as in every bit of power in him channelled into a single blast) or onslaught to stop juggy in the past. His only only weakness is psychic blasts and his helmet covers that. Spidey won't be agil enough to get it off in these cramped corridors so that option is removed. There really is no way to cage the juggernaut that spidey can use here. Every time juggernauts been caught it's been by MULTIPLE powered individuals. Spidey can't beat him alone.

Scenerio 2: When he gets to the control room, and depending on how the controls are set up, he may be able to just manually adjust a cell to fit Juggernaut's qualifications. Then lead him to it and seal him in. Then he's stuck.

Pete's good with science but a completely foreign computer system in the MINUTE's it would take for juggy to come smashing through one of the walss having smashed through half the prison on his way, doubtful, and even then he has to spend even more time getting cain in there

Scenerio 3: He can know about Juggernaut's mental weakness and will find a cell that was used to telepathically dull a person (if there are any, this one is a bit stretching). He'd lead Juggy toward this place. Sometime in that process he will fight and forcefully remove Juggy's helmut (everyone's done it, spidey shouln't have too much problem with it). He will lead Juggy into the cell and then double back and close the door. The telepathy will attack Juggy and he'll go down. (yes, stretching, but it was a random idea).

juggernaut is the the size of a house and this building is a maze of tight corridors. Spidey's agility and movement is going to be severely compromised by the cramped conditions. The chances of his getting cain's helmet off without getting torn in half like a corn dolly are minimal. Remember cain has faced spidey several times and every time spidey has needed an entire team there to help take him down. I hate to say this but this is a street level hero going up against a guy who has taken on the x-men single handed on MANY occassions. Spidey is simply outclassed.

Scenerio 4: Simplist idea that may or may not work. Spidey does none of the above. These cells are laced in Adamantium... can Juggernaut break through Adamantium? He's never broken Wolverine's claws I know, but I don't know if he can get through a prison of the stuff. If Spidey knows what they're made of he can just find the cell that's designed to hold the strongest villain (if even that) and then lead Juggy into it, sealing it. Even without the power dampeners, if Juggy can't break through adamantium then he's stranded and incapacitated. Simple and boring, but maybe or maybe not effective. I'll leave that up to the voters.

See my rant on deus x machina powers. This is a mystical power. Basically it's literal , once he get's moving anything in his path either get's out of the way or get's smashed. It's not like he's using his considerable muscles to smash through, this is force of nature time.

So my theory over all is to simple trap Juggernaut in one of the prisons that can either 1) hold juggernaut naturally, 2) hold juggernaut since it held someone else like him, 3) hold Juggernaut due to Spidey's designing it like so, etc. I know anyone can use this idea in their matches, but here's why it's more likely in my scenerio than other scenerios. Spidey has full access of the Raft and the cells, the prisoners, how they work, etc. He's smart enough to know how they work and how to tweak them if necessary. He knows he's out of his league and that he'll have to be creative, so this is naturally a route he would take. And lastly, he's way more intelligent than Juggernaut, who simply isn't, and he can easily outsmart Juggernaut and find a way to trap him or lead him to wherever the heck he wishes. Also, Juggernaut's random attack patterns and Spidey's Spidey sense should help Spidey set everything up.

In this match, it's brains vs braun... and brains wins over every time.

Winner - Spiderman

As stated, it takes too long, it's sketchy with regards the power inhibtors. There's no way to completely stop juggs from moving, the building will have fallen down on spidey's head killing him by then.

WINNER: JUGGERNAUT!

sorry spidey

 

[Hellstormer]

Agreed, apart from the part about it being even.

Half of their power... so he only get's 50 % efficiency on healing factors, half the length and strength in his bone claws, HALF the power of cyclop's optic blast.

Presisly, but when he has two healing factors it equals the strength of one. Basic mathmatics.

this will be limited at best, cable will be able to get blue-prints. Far superior

Also vantage points won't help him, cable is a telepath, surprise attacks are completely out of the question.

Yes cuz blueprints are btter then actually being there and when he's moving at super speed its kinda hard to realize what he's doing. Plus he's got Deadpool's psychic immunity which might not be strong enough to completely block Cable until he absorbs his powers but it'll still be enough to mask himself.

a) cable would have put him to sleep by then
b) a class 25 could still rip a 50% durability colossus's arm off

then he'll grow a new arm like in Exiles #68

If cable wants to he can simply reach inside mimic's mind and fiddle around so he spends the rest of his days convinced he's a pink bunny rabbit. That's more than hurting him a little.

50% Psychic immunity will keep major damage from happening.


[quote
Finally you admit to this in some small way. The problem with mimic is that he is a jack of all trades, master of none. He is going up against a specialist in cable. Cable is one of, if not the most powerful telepaths in the marvel u, going up against a guy who is quite good with 5 powers.[/quote] Actually he is one of the most powerful telepaths in the world but whatever. On Mimic's homeworld he led the X-men and was an Avenger, plus he shows his tactical ability numerous times during the Exiles he led a freaking assualt against Galactus in Exiles 6-8. He's no amatuer he's got skills.

Even if mimic did get cable's powers it would come down to a psychic contest and cable would win. Simple fact if mimic is to protect himself from cable's attacks it would require extreme concentration,

Probaly minimal he'll just need a little more defense then psychic immunity, this'll go into hand-to-hand I'm telling your.

cable on the other hand doesn't as he would be so much more powerful, this leaves cable free to shoot at mimic with armour piercing rounds from one of his massive tank destroyer guns. mimic would have to concentrate so hard just to defend himself that he wouldn't be able to attack in any form. His 50% colossus skin really would take that much of a beating from cable's futuristic weaponry and then he'd be dead. But of course this is all moot as without psychic defenses cable would simply shut him down the second the battle started.

Colossus body armor and healin factors that form a healing factor greater then Wolverines

Mimic's got this

And now for some feats.


Exiles 68: Copies Deadpool's healing factor and regrows an arm
Exiles 8-10: Leads a team of Earth's mightiest to fight Galactus even though they've never fought together before (alternate Earth)
Exiles 9: Takes Captain America (alternate version) out with one optic beam blast.
Exiles 13: Toe-to-Toe with Hulk Buster Iron Man
Exiles 15: Single handedly beats down Namor
exiles 35: Takes a bashing from Super Thing (a super mutated Thing) and gets back up.
exiles 36: Beats down Super Thing underwater and brings him to the surface.
Exiles 44-45: Him and Morph tag team Hyperigod and survive even after Ms. Marvel entered and distracted Morph. (Hypergod is thw version of Hyperion that took 3 Hyperions to beat.)

There's probaly more but I don't feel like going through every issue. I want to make it perfect clear that most of these were alternate reality version of the character meaning they may not be as strong (or stronger) as we think.

 

[hippy fascist]

How can you say that when there's no proof? Mimic never said he was out of range...ever. He was able to absorb Phoenix's power from at least 1/2 a mile. So to say that you magically no that is a bit void.[/color]

Half a mile is stretching things to say the least, at most she's a hundred yrds up. She is not half a mile away by a long stretch.

Mimic was in the Exiles when they were atn the Crystal Place where there's machinery set up to view every world, and portals used to travel to the worlds. Meaning not only can Mimic get info, he can go there and find his vantage points.[/color]

Competition rules state no character can visit the battlefield beforehand.

Also vantage points are useless since cable will be able to pinpoint his exact location.

No because Mimic'll have already done that.[/color]
Not without access beforehand he won't and anyway, mimic has never shown any great ability with tech, cable on the other hand has.

Mimic has Northstar speed, he'll find Cable first.

HALF OF NORTHSTAR's SPEED, and that's not quicker than the speed of thought

Best N64 game ever!

t:

Hmmm can't say I do but ok....


Mimic'll be moving to fast and by the ime he gets a hold on him Mimic'll
have the necessary powers to block him.

Not really, speed of thought remember, think of the word kill. That's how fast this would be

Yea but I just realized that in Exiles issue 68 Mimic swaps out Beast's agility for Deadpool's power's meaning he'll not only have the healing factor but the psychic immunity, this battle will become hand-to-hand and Mimic is fast, stronger (Colossus and Deadpool, not to mention healing factors (1/2 of Logan's + 1/2 of Deadpool's=Better then Wolverine because Deadpool > Wolverine)and claws.)[/color]

with regards deadpool's psychic immunity, you should read up on deadpool.

It comes from his healing factor interacting with his cancerous brain cells. Mimic copies powers, not diseases, so this is a no go I'm affraid. There is NO PSYCHIC IMMUNITY

Did he survive on the Brood homeworld? Lead a team of reality hopping mutants? Or become an Avenger? I'lll admit the shields will be a pain but Mimic will break him dwon once he has some of Cable's psychics.

He won't get close enough, pop and he's gone considering he has little or no psychic protection. Also cable has lead a band of time hopping mercenary's, faced tyrrants, become an ex-man. I could go on...

HEALING FACTOR that's BETTER THEN WOLVERINES plus Colossus's armor!!! He doesn't have a weapon that can beat that.

one more time... 50%

Now a clarification of Mimic's powers during this battle since my first one was wrong. (He absorbed Deadpool's in Exiles #68 i.e. before the comp started)

Colossus:

1. Steel Skin
2. Super Strength

Wolverine:

1. Bone Claws
2. Healing Factor
3. Acute Senses

Deadpool:

1. Regenerative Healing Factor
2. Superhuman strength, speed, endurance and agility,
3. Psychic immunity,
4. Instantaneous reflexes

Super Speed <--Northstar

Optic Blast <-- Cyclops probaly will be swapped for Cable's

Deadpool's healing factor is legendary, 1/2 of it plus 1/2 of Wolverine's makes him even above Wolverine's level. The competition is done.

Winner=Mimic

EDIT: I'd like to also make a note that when Mimic is in his organic steel form and puts out his claws they also get covered in metal.

Healing factors won't effect psychic assaults as it only repairs organic tissue. Putting him to sleep is simply re-alligning the electical impulses in his brain. There is NOTHING to heal, metal can't stop it. MIMIC's BONED

WINNER: CABLE!

 

[hippy fascist]

Presisly, but when he has two healing factors it equals the strength of one. Basic mathmatics.

I shall concede this point

Yes cuz blueprints are btter then actually being there and when he's moving at super speed its kinda hard to realize what he's doing. Plus he's got Deadpool's psychic immunity which might not be strong enough to completely block Cable until he absorbs his powers but it'll still be enough to mask himself.

There are several things wrong with this statement, see my previous rebuttle

then he'll grow a new arm like in Exiles #68

Can't grow new brainwaves though

50% Psychic immunity will keep major damage from happening.

Not really cable's power is ENORMOUS, meaning that even though he has half it won't be enough. Put 5000 men in combat against 10'000 MORE EXPERIENCED men and see which sides wins...

Actually he is one of the most powerful telepaths in the world but whatever.

Thank you

On Mimic's homeworld he led the X-men and was an Avenger, plus he shows his tactical ability numerous times during the Exiles he led a freaking assualt against Galactus in Exiles 6-8. He's no amatuer he's got skills.

But not psychic immunity

Probaly minimal he'll just need a little more defense then psychic immunity, this'll go into hand-to-hand I'm telling your.

As I say, with deadpool's psychic immunity, this would be easy. but without it he's screwed

Colossus body armor and healin factors that form a healing factor greater then Wolverines

see above for the healing factor and how it relates to telepaths, see previous posts for comments about how his skin is only 50% as thick and tough as that of colossus

Mimic's got this

And now for some feats.


Exiles 68: Copies Deadpool's healing factor and regrows an arm
Exiles 8-10: Leads a team of Earth's mightiest to fight Galactus even though they've never fought together before (alternate Earth)
Exiles 9: Takes Captain America (alternate version) out with one optic beam blast.
Exiles 13: Toe-to-Toe with Hulk Buster Iron Man
Exiles 15: Single handedly beats down Namor
exiles 35: Takes a bashing from Super Thing (a super mutated Thing) and gets back up.
exiles 36: Beats down Super Thing underwater and brings him to the surface.
Exiles 44-45: Him and Morph tag team Hyperigod and survive even after Ms. Marvel entered and distracted Morph. (Hypergod is thw version of Hyperion that took 3 Hyperions to beat.)

There's probaly more but I don't feel like going through every issue. I want to make it perfect clear that most of these were alternate reality version of the character meaning they may not be as strong (or stronger) as we think.

exactly these feats have no context for strength levels, etc

Cable has saved the world endless times.

He has fought some of the biggest bads in the history of the marvel universe

He is one of the most powerful psychics in this or any reality.

WINNER: CABLE!

 

[Hellstormer]

see above for the healing factor and how it relates to telepaths, see previous posts for comments about how his skin is only 50% as thick and tough as that of colossus

You're acting like its sheet metal, his skin becomes metal the only downside (as stated by Mimic) his strength isn't as high and he doesn't get taller.

exactly these feats have no context for strength levels, etc

Cable has saved the world endless times.

He has fought some of the biggest bads in the history of the marvel universe

He is one of the most powerful psychics in this or any reality.

Yea but did he ever listen to a drunken Logan sing? That tops everything

Half a mile is stretching things to say the least, at most she's a hundred yrds up. She is not half a mile away by a long stretch.

he still never had limits put on his power obsviosly he has to be at least in eyesight but the arena is small enough.

Competition rules state no character can visit the battlefield beforehand.

Fine he can still use the control panels to view it and find everything he needs to know.

Also vantage points are useless since cable will be able to pinpoint his exact location.

Not with his psychic immunity wow:I know keep reading)

HALF OF NORTHSTAR's SPEED, and that's not quicker than the speed of thought

It's quicker then Cable.

Not really, speed of thought remember, think of the word kill. That's how fast this would be

Not with psychic immunity (calm down and keep reading )

with regards deadpool's psychic immunity, you should read up on deadpool.

It comes from his healing factor interacting with his cancerous brain cells. Mimic copies powers, not diseases, so this is a no go I'm affraid. There is NO PSYCHIC IMMUNITY

BUT WAIT! The mutant gene that they put in Wade was directly connected to his powers, without the cancer the powers wouldn't work and to prove that Mimic has the psych immunity some crummy comic pictures (cuz my scanner is craptastic)

Here's Mimic shortly after he copied Deadpool here he's growing an arm and there he's unsheathing his claws with a nice metallic shine.

Here we have Mimic facing off against She-Hulk and Deadpool and -gasp- he's being shot out and somehow his 50% Colossus armor is deflecting them! O and a nice ice pop add.
Patient, patient you'll see where I'm getting...

BOOYAH, Mimic discovers that because Wade's powers are connected to his cancer Mimic also developped the cancer meaning his brain is constantly healing itself meaning he has untraceable brainwaves which somes up to PSYCHIC IMMUNITY!!!

He won't get close enough, pop and he's gone considering he has little or no psychic protection. Also cable has lead a band of time hopping mercenary's, faced tyrrants, become an ex-man. I could go on...

He didn't spend years on a brood homeworld.

one more time... 50%

Can I try? 50% is a *****! (my 5 is cooler)

Winner=Mimic

 

[hippy fascist]

I can't read the dialogue, unless psychic immunity is stated or has been shown in some other place this means nothing

Can you type out the key bits

 

[Hellstormer]

I can't read the dialogue, unless psychic immunity is stated or has been shown in some other place this means nothing

Can you type out the key bits

Yea just gimme a minute...

Blink: O my God you can pwn anyone now.
Morph: especially Cable.
Mimic: I just got back from smacking down the Living Tribunal
Morph/Blink: YAY MIMIC!!!



I'll get the reall diaologue up.

 

[Hellstormer]

First page I scanned: Top Right Panel:
She-Hulk: Deadpool you idiot! Don't you know WHY they call him "Mimic"?
Deadpool:But...If he mimiced ME, the joke's on him...

Deadpool's implying his cancerous side effects.

The last page I scanner: right side:
Heather: Cal mimicked Deadpool's healing factor in order to save my life. To save ALL of us really. We just didn't realize it would do THAT to him...

It's not outright stated until the next issue which triggers the World Tour crossover which was going on when the contest started but it just gave more information on what happened previously so I don't think it's void.

Mimic: It's the healing factor I mimicked off Deadpool. It saved my life, but the side effects won't win any beauty contest.
Blink: I know. Heather said it's some sort of auto-immune response spreading the cancerous tissue through your body or something...

Again its not outright stated "YOU HAVE CANCER" but everything they say (not to mention his appearence) implies he has it.

I say we leave it up to the voters. Cause debating it can turn ugly.

 

[hippy fascist]

You're acting like its sheet metal, his skin becomes metal the only downside (as stated by Mimic) his strength isn't as high and he doesn't get taller.

Different varieties and purities of metals have different densities (sp?) Meaning that he has metal skit but it's not as tough.

Yea but did he ever listen to a drunken Logan sing? That tops everything

he still never had limits put on his power obsviosly he has to be at least in eyesight but the arena is small enough.

And the arena has plenty of walls, getting in line of sight takes time, a psychic assault doesn't.

Fine he can still use the control panels to view it and find everything he needs to know.

debatable, cable was a merc, so he'll have plenty of inside info on all the little nooks and crannys

Not with his psychic immunity (I know keep reading)

Not proven, not shown, not used. Purely speculative. He died from an assault by...a PSYCHIC ENTITY, shortly afterwards...

It's quicker then Cable.

But not quicker than the speed of thought...

Not with psychic immunity (calm down and keep reading )


BUT WAIT! The mutant gene that they put in Wade was directly connected to his powers, without the cancer the powers wouldn't work and to prove that Mimic has the psych immunity some crummy comic pictures (cuz my scanner is craptastic)

Here's Mimic shortly after he copied Deadpool here he's growing an arm and there he's unsheathing his claws with a nice metallic shine.


Here we have Mimic facing off against She-Hulk and Deadpool and -gasp- he's being shot out and somehow his 50% Colossus armor is deflecting them! O and a nice ice pop add.
Patient, patient you'll see where I'm getting...

Standard bullets from a standard 9mm pistol. Kevlar body armour stops these

BOOYAH, Mimic discovers that because Wade's powers are connected to his cancer Mimic also developped the cancer meaning his brain is constantly healing itself meaning he has untraceable brainwaves which somes up to PSYCHIC IMMUNITY!!!

Of course we don't know if it has affected him in the way you are stating. IT IS PURE SPECULATION. THEORY. There is no proof that this power is available to him and if we are going to go to later issues to prove it we would see he got taken out by legion. Whose powers are based on...psyonics!

He didn't spend years on a brood homeworld.

No, just years in an armageddon style future

Can I try? 50% is a *****! (my 5 is cooler)

Winner=Mimic

Mine's bigger

WINNER: CABLE!

 

[hippy fascist]

First page I scanned: Top Right Panel:
She-Hulk: Deadpool you idiot! Don't you know WHY they call him "Mimic"?
Deadpool:But...If he mimiced ME, the joke's on him...

Deadpool's implying his cancerous side effects.

The last page I scanner: right side:
Heather: Cal mimicked Deadpool's healing factor in order to save my life. To save ALL of us really. We just didn't realize it would do THAT to him...

It's not outright stated until the next issue which triggers the World Tour crossover which was going on when the contest started but it just gave more information on what happened previously so I don't think it's void.

Mimic: It's the healing factor I mimicked off Deadpool. It saved my life, but the side effects won't win any beauty contest.
Blink: I know. Heather said it's some sort of auto-immune response spreading the cancerous tissue through your body or something...

Again its not outright stated "YOU HAVE CANCER" but everything they say (not to mention his appearence) implies he has it.

I say we leave it up to the voters. Cause debating it can turn ugly.

All theory, if you want to include this speculation I'm happyto include the later issues of exiles where he gets pwned py a psychic entity...

 

[Hellstormer]

Not proven, not shown, not used. Purely speculative. He died from an assault by...a PSYCHIC ENTITY, shortly afterwards...

It had to make eye contact which is different.





Of course we don't know if it has affected him in the way you are stating. IT IS PURE SPECULATION. THEORY. There is no proof that this power is available to him and if we are going to go to later issues to prove it we would see he got taken out by legion. Whose powers are based on...psyonics!

No, just years in an armageddon style future

An entire planet ruled by the Brood vs. a futuristic land ruled by some badguys and which one wimped out and came back BY CHOICE?

Mine's bigger

No one can match your "image linked from wpclipart" pic.

I don't think there's anymore to debate the Blink said that Heather said the cancerous tissue was spreading through his body, I can only assume that he has the psychic immunity. If it turns into a physical fight Mimic will win.

EDIT: I've been reaidng the Deadpool wiki and it seems like the scarring and physic immunity is cause by his healing factor, I'll put it up to deabte for the people because I'm through with this match.

"As Deadpool had cancer at the time of the gene therapy which endowed him with these abilities, it bound to the "healing factor" so that in a sense, the cancer is his healing factor, which is why his skin is still horribly scarred. This causes his brain cells to be in a constant state of flux and regeneration, rendering him immune to psychics such as Professor X and Emma Frost"

And since Mimic showed the scarring I would think he had the scarring on the brain as well.

 

[hippy fascist]

but, while the issues are not admissable you are speculating on something which was disproven a few issues later. it's likeme saying that because pete was conflicted it's possible he wouldn't join starks side in civil war. While the civil war stuff is innadmissable it doesn't mean I can then use speculation to the contrary in an argument. FACT he died from a psychic assault so to speculate simply because the issues are innadmissable is pushing things a little...


WINNER: CABLE!

 

[hippy fascist]

One final point. This is only half deadpool’s healing factor. It is the extreme nature of deadpool’s healing factor that grants him this power. Surely it is reasonable to assume that this would mean that either, the effectiveness of this shielding would be greatly diminished (as is backed up by later stories) or that he simply doesn’t have it. Again, the key here is 50%. So he gets part of deadpool’s healing factor (the ability to heal) but there is NO INDICATION that this confers the psychic protection.

WINNER: CABLE!

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!!!

 

[Phaedrus45]

*Psylocke

*Spider-Man

*Bloodaxe

*Cable - (This was a hard batch of matches; this one especially. I was thinking through various things. I was wondering what would happen if Mimic faced Gideon. Gideon would absorb Mimic's powers while Mimic absorbed Gideon's powers; and, so on and so on. Plus, if Mimic absorbed Cable's powers, how would Mimic handle the techno-organic virus in Cable's system? Cable's had to learn how to control this; Mimic wouldn't know how. Would this even pass on to Mimic? So many questions. I'm giving Cable my vote; but, I'm still not sure.)

 

[Hellstormer]

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[Phaedrus45]

edited

 

[Hellstormer]

MIMIC
Psylocke
Spider-man
Bloodaxe

 

[wiegeabo]

Professor X (resources and the Xavier Protocols which would include Psylocke)
Juggernaut (I really want to vote for Spidey. And I think there are ways he could beat Jugs in this match, but...)
Darkhawk
Cable (only because of range. In a close fight...can't really tell)

 

[kytrigger]

Juggernaut
Mimic-awesome debate and real tough call
Psylocke
Bloodaxe-another damn tough one

 

[Harlekin]

Psylocke - Telepathic immunity really helps here.
Juggernaut
Darkhawk
Mimic - Tough debate though.