Contest of Marvels II Thread 2

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Belasco currently beating Crystal 11-0
Baron Mordo currently beating Cameron Hodge 6-5
Firelord currently beating SpeedFreek 11-0
Wolverine currently beating Namorita 7-4

 

[Harlekin]

Results So Far:

Belasco currently beating Crystal 11-0
Baron Mordo currently beating Cameron Hodge 56-5
Firelord currently beating SpeedFreek 11-0
Wolverine currently beating Namorita 7-4

Baron Mordo sure is destroying Hodge.

 

[wiegeabo]

More shenanigans!

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Belasco
Firelord
Wolverine
Baron Mordro

 

[Darren Daring]

Belasco
Baron Mordo
Firelord
Wolverine

 

[Phaedrus45]

Final Results:

Belasco beat Crystal 13-0
Baron Mordo beat Cameron Hodge 8-5
Firelord beat SpeedFreek 13-0
Wolverine beat Namorita 9-4

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 3,

Match 29:

Tri-Sentinel (WOLVERINE25TH) bio

vs.

Nico Minoru (HIPPY FASCIST) bio

Match 30:

Scarlet Spider (JEWISHHOBBIT) bio

vs.

The Presence (DARKHELLRIDER) bio

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[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 4,

Match 29:

Korath (PHAEDRUS45) bio

vs.

Puck (POWDERMAN) bio

Match 30:

Hybrid (ZOKEN) bio

vs.

Joystick (WIEGEABO) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

Location: Avengers Mansion

In the fictional Marvel Comics universe, Avengers Mansion has traditionally been the base of the Avengers. The enormous, city block-sized building, currently abandoned, is located at 890 Fifth Avenue, Manhattan, New York City.

It had three above-ground floors and three basement floors. The first three floors were open to the public and had twelve rooms to house Avengers who wished to reside in the mansion, as well as Jarvis's quarters. A portion of the mansion's third floor served as a hangar for the Avengers' quinjets, their primary mode of transportation.
The three floors below ground were restricted to the public and had modified rooms for the Avengers' needs. Such rooms below ground were: Tony Stark's arsenal chamber, the Avengers gym, Hawkeye's test-shooting room, the training room (much like the X-Mansion's Danger Room), The cryogenic storage area, and the ultra-secure assembly room.

The Mansion was surrounded by a wall twelve feet high and one foot thick, as well as an array of high-tech security defenses. Nonetheless, those defenses were often breached by the supervillains faced by the Avengers.

(As per usual, the defenses are shut off. You can venture outside, if necessary; but, not off of Avenger's ground. The twelve foot high wall will be the farthest participants are allowed to reach.)

 

[wiegeabo]

Joystick vs Hybrid

Through his connections, Hybrid could probably find some information on Joystick. But Joystick will definitely be able to find out information on Hybrid, and not necessarily during prep-time!

Avengers Mansion is a great location for Joystick to fight in. The first thing she'll do is interface with the Mansion computers, turning all the defenses onto Hybrid. At best this will stop him and end the fight, at worst it will buy her time to do any research she couldn't do during prep-time.

With access to the computers she can gather all the information the Avengers have on the symbiotes (and Hybrid specifically, if they have any). From this she'll learn about the symbiote's weaknesses to sound and fire (if she didn't get it during prep-time).

If they fight each other, Joystick's speed, strength, and stamina are equivalent to Spider-Man's, which will allow her to stay in the fight. She can attack from a distance with the blasts from her batons, and use them in a close up fight.

But her biggest advantage will be able to turn Avengers defenses against Hybrid. The defenses should include sonic attacks since that is an effective for of non-lethal weaponry, just what Joystick would need.

Hybrid sounds like a great fighter. But Joystick's natural abilities, combined with the battle's location, will be more than Hybrid can handle.


Joystick wins

 

[Zoken]

Hybrid Vs. Joystick

Okay, first off we admit Hybrid has no knowledge of Joystick. but she won't find anything on him. okay, so she may find mention of the weakenesses of the symbiotes. Hybrid is too off the grid as far as heroes are concerned. he worked with the New Warriors, but wasn't even on the hitlist of Hindsight.

secondly, the fight. Hybrid has the powers copied from Spidey (wall crawling, web-slinging, and a danger sense) plus his strength is on par with Venom, not Spider-Man. while Joystick is strong, Hybrid is twice as strong. (Spidey is in the 12-15 ton range, Hybrid is in the 30-35 ton range) and you did say that her strength speed and reflexes were on par with Spidey.

not to mention that Hybrid has not one person watching out for his well being but five. remember, Hybrid isn't just a guy with powers, or even a guy and his symbiote, he's a guy and FOUR symbiotes. he and his four symbiotes work together with no powerstruggle, so they will be watching for him as well.

He can create tendrils and blades just like carnage so her ranged advantage is matched, and he is twice a strong as she is so in close range, she's out-matched. Hybrid can also use his symbiote to create diversions and decoys as he's shown he can detatch peices of it before.

 

[Zoken]

Joystick vs Hybrid

Through his connections, Hybrid could probably find some information on Joystick. But Joystick will definitely be able to find out information on Hybrid, and not necessarily during prep-time!

Avengers Mansion is a great location for Joystick to fight in. The first thing she'll do is interface with the Mansion computers, turning all the defenses onto Hybrid. At best this will stop him and end the fight, at worst it will buy her time to do any research she couldn't do during prep-time.

Okay, first of all I think that the Avenger's computers would be quiet heavily encrypted and difficult to override. that said, how about this; If you were the worlds premier super-team and you are being lead by no less than Captain America and Iron Man, icons to the people, you would put safeguards in to prevent you from looking horrible on the news by have the automated defences attack a police officer who is conducting a search, THUS you would have the defences keyed to defer to cops in the abscence of an Avenger. Now wrap your brain around this... Hybrid is a cop.

With access to the computers she can gather all the information the Avengers have on the symbiotes (and Hybrid specifically, if they have any). From this she'll learn about the symbiote's weaknesses to sound and fire (if she didn't get it during prep-time).

addressed

If they fight each other, Joystick's speed, strength, and stamina are equivalent to Spider-Man's, which will allow her to stay in the fight. She can attack from a distance with the blasts from her batons, and use them in a close up fight.

But her biggest advantage will be able to turn Avengers defenses against Hybrid. The defenses should include sonic attacks since that is an effective for of non-lethal weaponry, just what Joystick would need.

Hybrid sounds like a great fighter. But Joystick's natural abilities, combined with the battle's location, will be more than Hybrid can handle.


Joystick wins

 

[wiegeabo]

Okay, first of all I think that the Avenger's computers would be quiet heavily encrypted and difficult to override. that said, how about this; If you were the worlds premier super-team and you are being lead by no less than Captain America and Iron Man, icons to the people, you would put safeguards in to prevent you from looking horrible on the news by have the automated defences attack a police officer who is conducting a search, THUS you would have the defences keyed to defer to cops in the abscence of an Avenger. Now wrap your brain around this... Hybrid is a cop.

The Avengers can't take that chance. Heroes turn, or are manipulated, or even impersonated. How would the computer know it was Hybrid and not Hybrid-being-mind-controlled?

And even if it could, Joysicks interface let's her control computers. She could just bypass the safeguards to take Hybrid down.

I' agree that Joystick does not want to get into a close hand-to-hand fight with Hybrid. Unless you're a lot stronger and faster then them, that's not a good tactic for anyone fighting a symbiote. Much less four symbiotes. Distance fights using the energy blasts from her batons would be better. Especially since Hybrid may find himself in a confined area like a hallway.

But a close range fight shouldn't really be necessary. Joystick can just keep Hybrid at bay with the automated defenses until he eventually falls.


Joystick wins

 

[Zoken]

The Avengers can't take that chance. Heroes turn, or are manipulated, or even impersonated. How would the computer know it was Hybrid and not Hybrid-being-mind-controlled?

And even if it could, Joysicks interface let's her control computers. She could just bypass the safeguards to take Hybrid down.

I' agree that Joystick does not want to get into a close hand-to-hand fight with Hybrid. Unless you're a lot stronger and faster then them, that's not a good tactic for anyone fighting a symbiote. Much less four symbiotes. Distance fights using the energy blasts from her batons would be better. Especially since Hybrid may find himself in a confined area like a hallway.

But a close range fight shouldn't really be necessary. Joystick can just keep Hybrid at bay with the automated defenses until he eventually falls.


Joystick wins

again, you rely heavily on her being able to control the automated defense systems which, as I said before were designed by Tony Stark and constantly revamped and upgraded as new Avengers came and went including men as intelligent as Reed Richards, Hank McCoy, Scott Lang, and other geniuses. they would design their computers to not be over ridden by anyone without propper access. If anything she'll bring the Sytem's wrath down on herself.

and if, by some wild stretch of the imagination, she were able to control the systems, he has a spider-sense and greater speed and reflexes than her. he'll be through the system and at her throat in no time. they aren't enough of an advantage. besides, She's only one person trying to pin down a target. he's five minds evading in a single body and they know how to work together.

I just realized an another advantage over her: experience. as I said, he's a cop. He knows about life and death situations, he's been trained and is experienced.

and when I ranted about him being a cop and the defenses ignoring him for that, I wasn't refering to any super-power or his status as a hero: He is a police officer. I don't think the building would fire on a police officer. but thats only theory. it is BELIEF that she can't over ride the systems. It is BELIEF that she wouldn't be able to hit him if she did as he also has a wonderful camo ability and his agility and speed. It is BELIEF that the...

WINNER IS HYBRID

 

[JewishHobbit]

Hippy better get his butt unbanned and debate our Nico or I'll be ticked!!!!

 

[JewishHobbit]

Scarlet Spider Vs Presence

Okay, we didn't think enough to list him as "Ben Reilly" so I'm assuming he only has the experience up until the Scarlet Spider stories right before he actually became Spiderman. I just wanted to clarify that.

Okay, like I said over in the Discussion thread, I can't find a good bio that explains how the Presence's powers work, or even what they are exactly, so this is going to be a very loose write up and I hope that you guys will accept it.

The battle is in Avengers mansion and I don't think the Presence has been in it, so it is unfamiliar for both parties. Presence seems pretty powerful but Ben Reilly is very resourceful and able to pull wins out of his but. Look what he did to Venom on his first time out. He's pretty good. That said, he's also very intelligent (though Presence is as well), and I think all of these traits will help him win this match. I think he'll use the Mansion as his playground, figuring it out as he goes and such. I can see him battling Presence and doing things like running up elevator shafts and dropping it on the oncoming Presence (figuring he'd be powerful enough to survive it). I can also see him doing things like playing with the quinjet and pulling a Kitty Pryde and frying Presence behind it. I can also see him making his way into the basement and figuring out things like the training room and the cyrogenics room to his benefit, perhaps freezing Presence in place. I think he'd be able to play with the Quinjet and accidently turn it on and then have it take off when Presence get's either aboard, or in front of it, taking him out of the battle, or just obliterating him entirely. Fun stuff.

I'm not going into detail because I don't know what it'll take to beat Presence, but I ask that you guys use your own intuition. Ben has weapons like the stingers, impact webbing, etc. He also has all the powers of Spidey (spidey sense and such) so he'll be able to keep one step ahead of the Presence and use his resourcefulness to find a way to take Presence out. Ben has always been very creative and I think he can find a way to pull this one out with a win. I won't lie and say it'll be easy, in fact, I can see it being very hard... but if any Spidey character can tell you, they're the ultimate underdogs who always finds a way to win... Ben included.

Winner - Scarlet Spider

 

[hippy fascist]

Nico Minoru Vs Tri-Sentinal

Wow, talk about your David and Goliath-esque match-ups. It looks like Nico is facing impossible odds…but this is exactly the kind of situation where Emo-Witch™ tends to shine

First things first, a little description of her powers:

Nico can cast spells to bring about any effect she desires, she can however only cast each spell once.

Elaboration: Nico can tap into magical forces on a par, power-wise, with those wielded by THE LIVING TRIBUNAL. That’s right, when Nico is on her A game she could give Dr. STRANGE a run for his money. The one thing that has always held her back however is her…shall we say…somewhat limited vocabulary.

However, this shouldn’t prove to be a problem here because with 24hrs prep-time and a dictionary/thesaurus, this girl can achieve some amazing things!

Now information-wise Nico will probably not be able to find out much about the tri-sentinel, but the clue’s in the name with this one. She knows she is facing a sentinel of some sort and with all the publicity around the 198 after M-day she’ll know that a sentinel is basically a gigantic robot. So she will be looking up synonyms for rust and mechanical failure.

Now the sentinel on the other hand will know nothing of Nico and will also have a great deal of difficulty keeping track of her as he will have to remain outside avengers mansion, and since she’s not a mutant he will not be able to use his scanners anywhere near as effectively.

Straight off the bat she will say the word

​

“Oxidize”​

Tri-Sentinel has a mechanical healing factor but with his body suffering continuous corrosion for about 30 mins this should impede that to the point that it won’t be able to heal any other issues that come up while also locking up his joints and generally slowing him down.

Seconds later she will utter the words

“Ghosts in the machine”​

With this simple phrase many of the tri-sentinel’s internal systems will begin to malfunction and without his healing factor to repair them this will basically take him out of the fight, not to the point where I would class it as a win but enough to stop him attacking Nico and allowing her a second to catch her breath.

While the tri-sentinel is reeling from this double whammy Nico will calmly and quietly say:

"Recycle"​

At which point the tri-sentinel will turn from a big scary robot into a simple block of metal, motionless and utterly harmless.

Nico wins and leaves the battlefield to slag it up with the nearest bad-guy she can find. The end

WINNER: SISTER GRIMM!

 

[Phaedrus45]

Korath the Pursuer vs. Puck:

This isn't much of a match. The biggest problem is the fact there just isn't that much about Korath on the net. I have a better bio at home; but, I was so busy this weekend, I didn't get a chance to post what it says. Maybe I'll do that later. If I don't, it really shouldn't matter. This is Puck, who was slaughtered last season, too.

First, the bio on Puck:

The original Puck had enhanced agility and superhuman strength rivaling that of Spider-Man. He was also a trained soldier and formidable hand-to-hand combatant. His trademark attack is a cartwheeling motion. Spinning on his hands and feet at great speeds, he is able to slam into and knock down enemies human-sized enemies with ease.

After a run-in with The Master of the World his body was altered and compressed, resulting in his tissue becoming akin to compressed rubber. Also, his aging is hugely ******ed; Judd resembles a man in his thirties.

Basically, Puck is good at hand to hand combat.

Here is a bio on Korath The Pursuer:

Korath is a brilliant geneticist. After implementing the Pursuer template on himself, Korath gained enhanced strength and durability to an unknown degree, uses full body armor, uses jet propelled boots which allow him to fly, and has increased advance scanners that can pick up anomalous brain patters or power levels. He also employs the use of two "beta batons," which fire very powerful energy blasts capable of knocking out an Eternal, like Sersi. He also claims to be trained in the ways of Ancient Kree.

So, as you can see, even though Korath won't know a thing about his opponent, once he arrives he'll be able to know exactly where he is located with his advanced scanners that "can pick up anomalous brain powers or power levels." When he find Puck, there really isn't much Puck can do, thanks to Korath's armor. With his two Beta Batons, Korath will easily knock out Puck, or bring part of the Mansion down on him. (In fact, it could be very likely, Korath will destroy the Mansion, check his sensors, and discover whether that eliminated Puck.) Sadly, Puck get's quickly eliminated two seasons in a row, and his participation for a third season must really come into question.

Winner = Korath The Pursuer

 

[wiegeabo]

again, you rely heavily on her being able to control the automated defense systems which, as I said before were designed by Tony Stark and constantly revamped and upgraded as new Avengers came and went including men as intelligent as Reed Richards, Hank McCoy, Scott Lang, and other geniuses. they would design their computers to not be over ridden by anyone without propper access. If anything she'll bring the Sytem's wrath down on herself.

By it's nature, any computer system that can be accessed, can be broken into. No matter the security that is installed. And there are plenty of examples where systems built by genius' are broken into or taken over. And her guantlets are designed to hack into computers.

and if, by some wild stretch of the imagination, she were able to control the systems, he has a spider-sense and greater speed and reflexes than her. he'll be through the system and at her throat in no time. they aren't enough of an advantage. besides, She's only one person trying to pin down a target. he's five minds evading in a single body and they know how to work together.

It's not going to be easy, but Joystick doesn't have to do the work. She just commans the computer to attack anything that's not her, and let the computer worry about handling Hybrid. And while the computer keeps him busy, she can also join the fight.

I just realized an another advantage over her: experience. as I said, he's a cop. He knows about life and death situations, he's been trained and is experienced.

That's an important quality. I'll just say that experience doesn't always guarantee victory, and we're not sure how much experience Joystick actually has since her past is so obscured.

and when I ranted about him being a cop and the defenses ignoring him for that, I wasn't refering to any super-power or his status as a hero: He is a police officer. I don't think the building would fire on a police officer. but thats only theory. it is BELIEF that she can't over ride the systems. It is BELIEF that she wouldn't be able to hit him if she did as he also has a wonderful camo ability and his agility and speed. It is BELIEF that the...

Police officers would even be easie to take over the superpowered heroes. That alone means the computer wouldn't have an override for individuals. And it would have to keep an active, updating database of all officers. Unlikely to say the least.

And if such overrides did exist, Joystick is already inside the system. She can override the override.

Joystick wins

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!!!

 

[Phaedrus45]

*Nico Minoru - (Hippy gets lucky again with no rebuttal, especially considering Tri-Sentinel went pretty far last season. But, in the end, she has a chance, so I have to give my vote to him.)

*Scarlet Spider - (Boy, it really stinks that so many people aren't defending their characters anymore. JH gets it...which might be for the best, since there might not be a lot of info on The Presence.)

*Korath

*Hybrid - (Maybe the hardest battle of the week. I love both characters. The question comes down to what information Joystick can gain before Hybrid finds her. I just don't think Avengers would really have much info on this character, as not too many people have faced him. She'd probably get the Rom villian, instead.)

 

[hippy fascist]

Nico Minoru
Joystick (Mansion's Defenses > Hybrid)
Scarlet Spider (Debate you win, never heard of presence either so...)
Korath (Poor puck )

 

[wiegeabo]

Nico Minoru
Joystick
Presence (Really wanted to vote for Ben. But after finding a Presence bio, I'm not sure if he could)
Korath (Puck is really pucked)

 

[Midnight Ice]

Nico Minoru
Joystick
Scarlet Spider
Korath

 

[Darthphere]

Nico Minoru
Joystick
Scarlet Spider
Korath