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Critics' X3 Film Reviews: Master Thread

Rate X-Men: The Last Stand

  • 10 - UNCANNY!

  • 9

  • 8

  • 7 - Average

  • 6

  • 5 - Wait for the DVD (or for the HBO showings)

  • 4

  • 3

  • 2

  • 1 - Avoid this like the Black Plague


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Okay everyone. I've watched the film. Sorry boys and girls but it doesn't live up to the hype. The special effects and action are good. But it doesn't reach epic proportions, except for the bridge scene. Some characters got some resolutions, like Rogue. Many of the twists did surprisingly work i.e. Scott's fate, Mystique's fate. But so many smalll scenes aren't so impressive and it didn't flow properly enough to be a cohesive story. The arguments over mutant rights and tolerance don't seem to hold as much water with all that's going on. If fans want an X4 they go make one themselves. With the ending I think it's best left alone because you don't have much left to work with.

Really, unless you want to shoot New Mutants the Movie.
 
Canadian AP:

Flaming cars, naked Rebecca replace nuance, complexity in final X-Men: review

In this photo provided by Twentieth Century Fox, Storm (Halle Berry) and Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) prepare for battle in 'X MEN: The Last Stand.' (AP Photo/Twentieth Century Fox/Diyah Pera)
In this photo provided by Twentieth Century Fox, Storm (Halle Berry) and Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) prepare for battle in 'X MEN: The Last Stand.' (AP Photo/Twentieth Century Fox/Diyah Pera)
CHRISTY LEMIRE
Tuesday, May 23, 2006

(AP) - The nuance and complexity of character that made the first two X-Men movies more compelling than the typically mindless summer blockbuster are gone in X-Men: The Last Stand, the third and allegedly final instalment in the comic-inspired franchise.

In their place this time, you get flying, flaming cars and a totally naked Rebecca Romijn. Like, really naked - not just covered in blue body paint.

You could call this The Brett Ratner Effect. Everyone's fears were true about what would happen when the director of the buddy-comedy Rush Hour movies took over the X-Men series from Bryan Singer, who has moved on to this summer's hotly awaited Superman Returns.

Ratner seems more concerned with spectacle than substance, offering a film that's shorter than its predecessors (2000's X-Men and 2003's X2: X-Men United) yet crammed with more characters and more subplots, all of which come and go as quickly as Wolverine flashes and retracts his metal claws.

What made those movies interesting was the humanity, for lack of a better word, of its mutant characters. They were tormented by their unwanted superpowers; they were conflicted about how best to use them. They sought refuge in the guidance of even-tempered mutant leader Charles Xavier (Patrick Stewart) and in each other. They experienced the same sorts of anxieties and insecurities as the rest of us, but eventually carved out a place for themselves in the world where they felt safe, accepted.

Yes, it was (and still is) a little ridiculous to watch grown men and women running around in weird hair and head-to-toe leather, and in The Last Stand the most distracting bit of casting comes from Kelsey Grammer, who plays Dr. Henry McCoy, or Beast. The presence is there, the voice is there, the gravitas should be there. But then there's Grammer with blue face paint and wild fur sprouting all over his head, stuffed into a business suit and trading quips with Hugh Jackman like:

"Wolverine, I hear you're quite an animal."

"Look who's talking."

Grammer is more believable providing the voice of Sideshow Bob on The Simpsons. Then again, the basis is a Marvel Comic. Either you're going to go with the conceit or you're not.

But everyone involved with this film purports it to be the meatiest and most relevant of the trilogy, with its premise that scientists have developed a cure for mutancy, and all the social and political implications that follow. Do the X-Men give up their powers and conform to be like everyone else? Or do they keep them and maintain the qualities that made them unique - and, frequently, ostracized?

It's all very high concept, and would seem applicable to anyone living on the fringe, but Ratner and screenwriters Zak Penn (who co-wrote part two) and Simon Kinberg (Mr. & Mrs. Smith) merely skim the surface. Protestors stand outside government buildings where these new shots are being administered, holding signs and chanting, "We don't need a cure!" Halle Berry's Storm, who can manipulate weather, says she doesn't want a cure. (And why should she? Her powers are among the coolest of all.) Meanwhile, young Rogue (Anna Paquin), who's stuck with the fact that everyone she touches dies, thinks it's not such a bad idea.

And that's about as far as anyone gets in terms of digging into the film's inherent philosophical issues; The Last Stand is the rare movie that actually could have run a bit longer, if only to give us a chance to think.

Instead we get giant battles between the good X-Men and the bad mutants, led by Ian McKellen's metal-moving Magneto (still wearing that idiotic helmet, it's so beneath him). Besides Romijn's shapeshifting Mystique and the flame-shooting Pyro (Aaron Stanford), he's added to his arsenal a mutant with spikes sticking out of his face, another who can sense other mutants, and a third appropriately named Juggernaut (soccer star Vinnie Jones, dressed in S&M gear) who simply plows through everything in his path.


Is your mind boggled yet? We haven't even mentioned the new mutants on the side of all that's pure and right, including Angel (Ben Foster), who has wings growing out of his back (hence the name) and whose father is responsible for the dreaded cure.

They're all superficial concepts, pawns populating the enormous computer-generated set pieces, the biggest of which features Magneto ripping the packed Golden Gate Bridge from its moorings and manipulating the span to make it extend to Alcatraz Island. (Somehow it's just not as much fun to watch people running for their lives anymore, even under the guise of summer entertainment.)

The most intriguing character of all, Famke Janssen's Jean Grey, has arisen after dying at the end of X2 and she's more screwed up than ever - another plot that feels truncated. Perhaps the most powerful mutant ever with her keen telekinesis and telepathy, Jean also has a dark side - a facet to her personality where she can't control her abilities, and wreaks total havoc.

Part Sissy Spacek in Carrie, part Linda Blair in The Exorcist, Jean can now kill people just by staring at them; she can cause an entire house to levitate and strip it bare. More often than not, though, she just stands around with a blank expression on her face, looking bored and a little lost.

Even if you don't have superpowers, you know how she feels.
 
Red Mask said:
Okay everyone. I've watched the film. Sorry boys and girls but it doesn't live up to the hype. The special effects and action are good. But it doesn't reach epic proportions, except for the bridge scene. Some characters got some resolutions, like Rogue. Many of the twists did surprisingly work i.e. Scott's fate, Mystique's fate. But so many smalll scenes aren't so impressive and it didn't flow properly enough to be a cohesive story. The arguments over mutant rights and tolerance don't seem to hold as much water with all that's going on. If fans want an X4 they go make one themselves. With the ending I think it's best left alone because you don't have much left to work with.

Really, unless you want to shoot New Mutants the Movie.
Dang:(
 
Pickle-El said:
Canadian AP:

Flaming cars, naked Rebecca replace nuance, complexity in final X-Men: review

. . . Part Sissy Spacek in Carrie, part Linda Blair in The Exorcist, Jean can now kill people just by staring at them; she can cause an entire house to levitate and strip it bare. More often than not, though, she just stands around with a blank expression on her face, looking bored and a little lost.

Even if you don't have superpowers, you know how she feels.

Ouch.
 
I can't keep up with the reviews on these pages....From the OCWeekly (California)

Lucky X III
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The third X-Men is a charm for comic fans
By Luke Y. Thompson
Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 3:10 pm
Choke on this.
Choke on this.
When kids of all ages discuss comic books and superheroes, there is inevitably one question that comes up time and again: If that one guy and that other guy had a fight, who would win? Comics companies occasionally indulge these debates with special issues pitting Thing against Hulk, or Wolverine versus Spider-Man, but the results are rarely satisfactory. There’s good reason not to kill off—or even damage the credibility of—a profitable character, so the battles usually end in a draw.

Movies don’t have to play like that. And with the apparent decision having been made that X-Men: The Last Stand is indeed the last in the series (future movies are expected to focus on Wolverine and Magneto in solo adventures), 20th Century Fox and director Brett Ratner go for it. Characters fight, and characters die—and those who survive are quite clearly marked as winners or losers. Timeless playground debates are settled at last.

There’s been a lot of fear from fans about the decision to conclude the series with Ratner. His best movie prior to this was Rush Hour 2—not the most ringing of endorsements—and the last time he stepped in for a third franchise movie was Red Dragon, which was decent but not spectacular. Worse than that . . . he’s been romantically linked to Lindsay Lohan. Does the man not know that comic-book movies are to be made by and for guys with no personal lives whatsoever?

But Ratner has not dropped the ball; The Last Stand is of a piece with its predecessors, and plays like the third act of a coherent whole. There isn’t a lot of story, but everything has been established in the last two films, and now it’s time for the big showdown. With an apparent “cure” for the mutant gene having been discovered, Magneto (Ian McKellen, great as always) is able to mobilize an army of pissed-off superkids who don’t see their powers as any kind of problem. As Professor Xavier (Patrick Stewart) advocates for a more peaceful solution, he is distracted by the resurrected Jean Grey (Famke Janssen), who has risen from the lake she disappeared into thanks to the unleashing of her id in an alternate persona known as the Phoenix. She’s now dangerously unstable and powerful beyond anything seen so far, and her allegiance will determine the key to victory.

Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) is still the major badass among the X-Men, though it seems Halle Berry did a bit of behind-the-scenes complaining, er, negotiating, to get herself a role equal to his, despite the fact that most comic book fans don’t like her as Storm. She won’t win them over here; aside from throwing lightning around like Star Wars’ Emperor, her role could be filled by just about any character.

Alan Cumming’s Nightcrawler is absent without explanation, though he appears in the official videogame. James Marsden is barely present as Cyclops, due mainly to scheduling conflicts with his bigger role in Superman Returns. Shawn Ashmore gets a bit more to do as Iceman, seemingly trading his affections toward the grown-up Rogue (Anna Paquin) for hot jailbait Kitty Pryde (Hard Candy’s Ellen Page), who can phase through walls and floors, and has the added bonus of not being lethal to the touch. As Iceman’s old rival Pyro, Aaron Stanford has dyed his hair blond, because that’s what evil people do.

But the best additions are the most surprising ones. Violent soccer star Vinnie Jones, known mostly for sneering thug roles since he turned to acting, lightens things up a bit as the unstoppable Juggernaut, playing him as a slightly bemused doofus. And as Secretary of Mutant Affairs Hank “Beast” McCoy, Kelsey Grammer dons blue fur and captures the character’s intellect (no surprise) and physicality (big surprise—who knew Frasier could kick ass?). The less said about Angel (Ben Foster) and his computer-generated wings, the better. There are special effects in almost every scene, and some much better than others: Phoenix obliterating her enemies is cool; the “digital facelift” technique Ratner wanted to use on Anthony Hopkins in Red Dragon gets a whirl here on Stewart and McKellen in a flashback sequence, and it’s kinda neat; but the big money shot of the Golden Gate Bridge getting twisted doesn’t always look convincing. (Speaking of which: Why do all the world’s mutants seem to live exclusively on the West Coast?)

Hardcore X-fans will have a ball playing “spot the minor hero in the background”—there are enough of them onscreen to spawn several lines of toys. They’ll also enjoy that screenwriters Simon Kinberg & Zak Penn, while delivering spectacle, have retained the small character-based moments that are these movies’ strong suit. Magneto can bend bridges, but it’s almost more fun to see him verbally shoot down a pair of tattooed youngsters after showing them the Holocaust number on his arm.

If this really is the Last Stand, it’s a stylish farewell indeed.
 
Pickle-El said:
If this really is the Last Stand, it’s a stylish farewell indeed.
Thanks Pickle-El.:up: The reviews for this movie are so different.
 
I just watched the movie earlier... the movie is GREAT! you should go see it.

I just felt that the Phoenix Storyline was underused although Famke did a tremendous job, she was great didnt have much to say but the effects were amazing and at the same time scary the one they did to her. They really portrayed the Phoenix character well, I wasnt satisfied though cuz i was expecting flaming fire FX like in X2.

I'll add more reviews soon... :)
 
aah x3 is all over the news paper here in the cinema section! its out here now!
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phoenix_force said:
aah x3 is all over the news paper here in the cinema section! its out here now!
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Those are terrible scans BTW!lol
 
berzerko89 said:
I just watched the movie earlier... the movie is GREAT! you should go see it.

I just felt that the Phoenix Storyline was underused although Famke did a tremendous job, she was great didnt have much to say but the effects were amazing and at the same time scary the one they did to her. They really portrayed the Phoenix character well, I wasnt satisfied though cuz i was expecting flaming fire FX like in X2.

I'll add more reviews soon... :)

I think the Phoenix subplot should have been done better since it played an integral part of the until the end.
 
Pickle-El said:
I can't keep up with the reviews on these pages....From the OCWeekly (California)

Lucky X III
PDF
Print
E-mail

The third X-Men is a charm for comic fans
By Luke Y. Thompson
Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 3:10 pm
Choke on this.
Choke on this.
When kids of all ages discuss comic books and superheroes, there is inevitably one question that comes up time and again: If that one guy and that other guy had a fight, who would win? Comics companies occasionally indulge these debates with special issues pitting Thing against Hulk, or Wolverine versus Spider-Man, but the results are rarely satisfactory. There’s good reason not to kill off—or even damage the credibility of—a profitable character, so the battles usually end in a draw.

Movies don’t have to play like that. And with the apparent decision having been made that X-Men: The Last Stand is indeed the last in the series (future movies are expected to focus on Wolverine and Magneto in solo adventures), 20th Century Fox and director Brett Ratner go for it. Characters fight, and characters die—and those who survive are quite clearly marked as winners or losers. Timeless playground debates are settled at last.

There’s been a lot of fear from fans about the decision to conclude the series with Ratner. His best movie prior to this was Rush Hour 2—not the most ringing of endorsements—and the last time he stepped in for a third franchise movie was Red Dragon, which was decent but not spectacular. Worse than that . . . he’s been romantically linked to Lindsay Lohan. Does the man not know that comic-book movies are to be made by and for guys with no personal lives whatsoever?

But Ratner has not dropped the ball; The Last Stand is of a piece with its predecessors, and plays like the third act of a coherent whole. There isn’t a lot of story, but everything has been established in the last two films, and now it’s time for the big showdown. With an apparent “cure” for the mutant gene having been discovered, Magneto (Ian McKellen, great as always) is able to mobilize an army of pissed-off superkids who don’t see their powers as any kind of problem. As Professor Xavier (Patrick Stewart) advocates for a more peaceful solution, he is distracted by the resurrected Jean Grey (Famke Janssen), who has risen from the lake she disappeared into thanks to the unleashing of her id in an alternate persona known as the Phoenix. She’s now dangerously unstable and powerful beyond anything seen so far, and her allegiance will determine the key to victory.

Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) is still the major badass among the X-Men, though it seems Halle Berry did a bit of behind-the-scenes complaining, er, negotiating, to get herself a role equal to his, despite the fact that most comic book fans don’t like her as Storm. She won’t win them over here; aside from throwing lightning around like Star Wars’ Emperor, her role could be filled by just about any character.

Alan Cumming’s Nightcrawler is absent without explanation, though he appears in the official videogame. James Marsden is barely present as Cyclops, due mainly to scheduling conflicts with his bigger role in Superman Returns. Shawn Ashmore gets a bit more to do as Iceman, seemingly trading his affections toward the grown-up Rogue (Anna Paquin) for hot jailbait Kitty Pryde (Hard Candy’s Ellen Page), who can phase through walls and floors, and has the added bonus of not being lethal to the touch. As Iceman’s old rival Pyro, Aaron Stanford has dyed his hair blond, because that’s what evil people do.

But the best additions are the most surprising ones. Violent soccer star Vinnie Jones, known mostly for sneering thug roles since he turned to acting, lightens things up a bit as the unstoppable Juggernaut, playing him as a slightly bemused doofus. And as Secretary of Mutant Affairs Hank “Beast” McCoy, Kelsey Grammer dons blue fur and captures the character’s intellect (no surprise) and physicality (big surprise—who knew Frasier could kick ass?). The less said about Angel (Ben Foster) and his computer-generated wings, the better. There are special effects in almost every scene, and some much better than others: Phoenix obliterating her enemies is cool; the “digital facelift” technique Ratner wanted to use on Anthony Hopkins in Red Dragon gets a whirl here on Stewart and McKellen in a flashback sequence, and it’s kinda neat; but the big money shot of the Golden Gate Bridge getting twisted doesn’t always look convincing. (Speaking of which: Why do all the world’s mutants seem to live exclusively on the West Coast?)

Hardcore X-fans will have a ball playing “spot the minor hero in the background”—there are enough of them onscreen to spawn several lines of toys. They’ll also enjoy that screenwriters Simon Kinberg & Zak Penn, while delivering spectacle, have retained the small character-based moments that are these movies’ strong suit. Magneto can bend bridges, but it’s almost more fun to see him verbally shoot down a pair of tattooed youngsters after showing them the Holocaust number on his arm.

If this really is the Last Stand, it’s a stylish farewell indeed.

If he thinks I wanted a video game he's got another thing coming. I don't care if Ratner dated Lyndsay Lohan nor how Storm's lightning effects like Emperor Pizzaface.

When Singer directed films he strongly conveyed the themes in the first two. He also managed to make even the smallest character give an impression to the audience. They all contributed someway to the ideas behind the X-Men lore. What they lacked in fights and special effects they had in story.

In X3, what was so important about its minor characters that we have so many of them? Was Warren's rich father nothing more than a rich guy who funded the 'cure'? Was he just a misguided man, or well-meaning father? How was Angel's mutation so horrible that he funded all that research? What about the Indian doctor? What she just there to head the research? And what about the fate of the school? Don't we deserve to see how the rest of the kids felt about what was happening. Instead all we know is Storm kept them in their rooms. And Rogue and Mystique deserved better than that. They really should have left Mystique's story just end at the prison truck. That last scene of her was too detached.
 
No Phoenix is giving me headaches, its sad i only kinda got to see it underwater....
im still in denial of what i didnt see

buildup of false hope.
Are there any ideas on how the Phoenix Flame bird looks? Will it look the same as it did in X2 or more advanced graphics to it?

*From the beginning of pre-production, we discussed different ways of representing Phoenix. John Bruno and his team are still working to make this image as dramatic and iconic as possible. We want her effects to be something you’ve never seen before – true to the essence of the comics, but also truly unique and groundbreaking

How goes the Phoenix?

*Effects are looking good. They’re still working, down to the wire. But it looks pretty incredible.
 
Damn, Harry destroyed it and was a bit harsh in my opinion........
 
Just got back from the screening. It sucked ass. It was terribly in every way. It was like Elektra-bad. I'm actually thinking that even Blade: Trinity and Man-Thing were better. I have actually anything good to say about it. Although there were two good brief scenes; 1. Scott driving with his bike to Alkali-lake (approx 6-10sec) 2. Storm coming down the stairs with her breasts jumping.

One side of me hoped this to be like FF. I bashed it like X3 but it turned out to be very good. That wasn't unfortunately the case with X3. But I knew this from the day when Singer left. I was just curious. And it payed.

Mainstreamers are probably going to like it. I was with four of my friends. Three of the are mainstreamers. Two of them didn't like it. One of them said "Well, how that was different from X2? It had good effects. It was okay."

Why Warner Bros.? Why did you make Bryan Singer an offer which he couldn't refuse?
Why Bryan Singer? Why you didn't keep your head and make X3 (and X4) instead of Superman Returns?
Why Fox? Why didn't you wait for Singer? He said he could do X3 after Supes.

To Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg: Stay away from Marvel Universe. Zak, you're already ruined two Marvel movies and third is ahead (Hulk 2). Please don't make the Young X-Men spin-off. Simon, congrats! You've done three movies and they all suck.

Brett Ratner, as you can see, I don't really blame you. You came aboard what, like two weeks before shooting? You couldn't really make any changes to the script. If you ever wanted to. If that's the case, I blame you too.

All my fellow fans, DON'T go to see this movie. Don't rent it. Don't buy it. Fox deserves to get nothing from this.

I'm really fcking pissed right now. In my eyes X3 doesn't exist.

EDIT: If X4 is made I really hope it opens like this: Scott wakes in mansion and is like "Huh! That was weird nightmare." And X3 was that nightmare.
 
Harry Knowles has had an agenda against this movie from day one after his friendship with Ratner went south.

There was no way he was going to like this movie, No way (unless of coure the fan base and general public like it, then he'll change his mind and proboly re-write his review, as he has done in the past, idiot)

Plus Ratner takes some backhand shots at Harryin the latest issue of "entertainment Weekly" (the one with the X-Men on cover) so this is proboly Harry's way of getting him back.
 
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