DAREDEVIL REBOOT: How would you do it?

THE CG
The biggest complaint seems to be about the special effects and the overuse of CG. If the exact same movie was produced right now, I guarantee the CG would be perfect. Clearly MSJ’s vision of the movie included plenty of spectacular comic book-style stunts, and since Spider-Man had raised the bar so high, I imagine he felt compelled to deliver on that level. I absolutely agree that the film relied far too heavily on the CG effects, especially for the stunts. Maybe if they had taken more of a Batman-esque approach to the stunts, and kept the CG to a minimum, it would’ve been much better. But I don’t think it would’ve been practical to do without it the CG completely.
The effects for the radar-scenes scenes, on the other hand were masterful, especially considering that in the comics there is no visual reference for how that should be shown on screen.

THE VIOLENCE
The Director’s cut is essentially R-rated. However, MSJ said in the DC doc that he was surprised that his cut got that rating, which suggests that he was aiming for a PG-13 all along. If I was directing, I suspect I would try to do the same thing to draw in that younger crowd. Even without studio pressure to make a marketable (ie. PG-13) movie, I wonder if MSJ would’ve cut it down or left it as it is in the DC. The theatrical cut still has a few gruesome moments (Elektra getting stabbed, Bullseye shot thru the hands, Daredevil breaks Kingpin’s legs, Quesada’s corpse carted away in pieces, etc.)
Still, I really don’t think that it would have to be rated R in order to be a good movie. After all, Batman Begins was PG-13.

Reading this again, I thought of another director that might work for Daredevil: Len Wiseman (Underworld, Underworld Evolution, and Live Free or Die Hard). And it's not just because I (to my surprise) think that UE is an effing masterpiece. It's because Wiseman has several things going for him here:
1) He can make it dark. I mean reeeeaallly dark.
2) R-rated or PG-13, he's fine either way.
3) He's got the kick-ass superhero action down.

4) Most importantly, he favors practical effects over CGI wizardry, but he seems very good at handing both. For example: a lot of the werewolf stuff in Underworld was guys in suits, and it still looked great. In LFDH, that famous shot of the flipping car hitting the two other cars, that was done with real cars. Bruce and Justin were matted in later, of course, but the effect of the cars crashing was all done for real.

So if you're sick of rubbery cg heroes and poorly planned action scenes, you could do a lot worse than this guy.
 
Are they actually making a reboot or still just forum talk. The only issues I had with DD were only a few things:

Darkness: Though i love a dark themed movie,and would love DD to be a gritty movie. Some of the fight scenes were too dark and upclose and you could'nt see what was going on.

Story: It was okay,I thought they needed to keep it simple. Was kindof lame dialog through out the movie,this needs improving. Keep elektra stuff minamil or even not have her in it..

Actors: I did'nt mind Ben as DD thought he did well with what he was given. I just think the supporting cast was subpar except for MCD,and Collin Farrel...I didnt care for Jennifer Garner or the rest of the crew..I could also see Matt Damon as DD if they do another and Ben don't wanna do it(which is possible,seems hes a decent director).
This is just my 2cents worth, I do hope they reboot this,as it seems thats all Hollywood can do nowadays..
 
My Daredevil reboot would be written by Ed Brubaker and David S. Goyer. The film would have a film-noir/ old pulp hero feel ( kind of Batman Begins feel to it).
Origin: would be in a brief flashback of the accident.
It would be a kind of year one type thing where he starts out as DD, but in the red costume not the yellow.
Characters: Daredevil/ Matt Murdock, Foggy Nelson, Karen Page, The Kingpin/ Wilson Fisk, Turk, Bullseye, Ben Urich.
Directors- Either Len Wiseman or Alex Proyas
 
Brian Michael Bendis should write the script. He did some amazing work with the Daredevil comic and clearly understands the character. If need be, pair him with an established screenwriter like Andrew Kevin Walker (Se7en) or Shane Black (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang).

As for directors, you need to look at Rian Johnson (Brick), Joe Carnahan (Smokin' Aces), Shane Black (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang), or, ideally, David Fincher (Se7en, Fight Club, Zodiac).

Fincher has proven his worth with this kind of film and could deliver a dark, moody, high-impact film. Shane Black can make action movies that are a crapload of fun, and the same goes for Carnahan. Rian Johnson is a little more unproven, but Brick, his first film, showed so much talent for dark stories and he'd bring a pretty orignal vision to the tale.

Cast:

Matt Murdock / Daredevil - Damian Lewis (Dreamcatcher, Life)
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Elektra - Rhona Mitra (The Number 23, Nip/Tuck)
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Wilson Fisk / Kingpin - Chi McBride (I Robot, Pushing Daisies)
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Bullseye - Josh Brolin (No Country for Old Men, American Gangster)
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Foggy Nelson - Andy Richter (Elf, Big Trouble)
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Karen Page - Amy Smart (Crank, Just Friends)
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Ben Urich - Enrico Colantoni (Veronica Mars, Galaxy Quest)
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I liked the film back when it came, so I don't really want to see them completely disregard it with a reboot. I would say just take the vague sequel approach like TIH.
 
Does anyone know if the Daredevil rights have lapsed from 20th Century Fox and back to Marvel?
 
Reboot/Year One thing is completely unnecessary. People don’t care about DD origins, especially considering the first movie is made just years ago. Just move on with the next stories and villains. Mr Fear can be a good villain, but Nolan’s BB has taken the same route with Scarecrow. I guess Marvel needs to create a new supervillain for DD. No I don’t want to see the usual gangsters & mafias to be DD main nemesis.
 
You can reboot though and not have an origin story. Mr. Fear would be great to see, but leaving out gangsters and the mafia out of Daredevil is like taking The Joker out of Batman, because Kingpin is Daredevil's main villian and he is over organized crime or the mafia!
 
There's no point in rebooting though unless you're changing something fundamental. For example Batman Begins changed the origin to be more faithful and Joker's still alive and just starting out and so on and so forth. Kingpin and Bullseye are still fine and I don't see any point in rehashing the Elektra story so might as well move forward onto Karen Page.
 
, but leaving out gangsters and the mafia out of Daredevil is like taking The Joker out of Batman, because Kingpin is Daredevil's main villian and he is over organized crime or the mafia!

I mean the main nemesis. You know, the head honcho. Also, I believe Kingpin is not needed. Somebody need to put a new, original villain.
 
I don't think an original villain would be necessary. But I'm not crazy about DD's rogue's gallery either. Owl, Mr. Fear and Purple Man don't sound at all appealing to me.
I wouldn't mind if they grabbed an enemy or two from a different rogues gallery, like Punisher or Spider-Man, as long as he was in Daredevil's league, of course. That's how DD wound up with Kingpin in the first place.
 
Brian Michael Bendis should write the script. He did some amazing work with the Daredevil comic and clearly understands the character. If need be, pair him with an established screenwriter like Andrew Kevin Walker (Se7en) or Shane Black (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang).

As for directors, you need to look at Rian Johnson (Brick), Joe Carnahan (Smokin' Aces), Shane Black (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang), or, ideally, David Fincher (Se7en, Fight Club, Zodiac).

Fincher has proven his worth with this kind of film and could deliver a dark, moody, high-impact film. Shane Black can make action movies that are a crapload of fun, and the same goes for Carnahan. Rian Johnson is a little more unproven, but Brick, his first film, showed so much talent for dark stories and he'd bring a pretty orignal vision to the tale.

Cast:

Matt Murdock / Daredevil - Damian Lewis (Dreamcatcher, Life)
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Elektra - Rhona Mitra (The Number 23, Nip/Tuck)
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Wilson Fisk / Kingpin - Chi McBride (I Robot, Pushing Daisies)
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Bullseye - Josh Brolin (No Country for Old Men, American Gangster)
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Foggy Nelson - Andy Richter (Elf, Big Trouble)
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Karen Page - Amy Smart (Crank, Just Friends)
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Ben Urich - Enrico Colantoni (Veronica Mars, Galaxy Quest)
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great cast... especially Brolin and Enrico
 
Rhona Mitra is an interesting choice for Elektra. She most definitely has the look. Statham is also not a bad choice for Bullseye. I'm not feeling the other choices, though. I like Parker Posey, but she's not right for the role of Karen.

He was, but can't have him back unless it's a sequel to Mark's DD. Plus Duncan has gotten too skinny now.

I like these two also. Never considered Rhona Mitra. not sure if i see her as a greek descend tho, but i can live with it. Statham is prolly the best and coolest choice for bullseye, i'm all for this. I like Chi, but if you're gonna keep the black kingpin, stick with Michael clark, if not, ving rhames cause tehy kinda look alike.

I like amy smart as karen page..really good choice

Matt Damon...sweet choice. I like this, but i don't see this happening, prolly out of respect for ben. Unless ben directs it and endorses/wants Matt to take over. If not, Leo Dicap would work also, but i hate his voice, but would still work visually. For an older version, Brad pitt can always work also.
 
I'm probably going to get blammed for this but I though the daredevil dir. cut was rather good. It was a little rough around the edges with the effects and the playground fight was not needed, but the story was solid, really went into Matt Murdock as a person. The theatrical cut.. not so much
 
I'm probably going to get blammed for this but I though the daredevil dir. cut was rather good. It was a little rough around the edges with the effects and the playground fight was not needed, but the story was solid, really went into Matt Murdock as a person. The theatrical cut.. not so much

i loved the DDDC...it was pimp:daredevil
 
How would I do it? I'd call Frank, offer him 100% creative control, a month in any vacation resort spot in the world and a bottle of Absynth for every one of his credit card purchases. Seriously, I have always wondered why Frank Miller wasn't working on the Ben Affleck film? Am I missing something here? The man wrote some of the best DD stories, shouldn't he be allowed shot?

i loved the DDDC...it was pimp

Im a pimp.
 
I don't want a remake, I just want a sequel like what "Hulk" and "The Punisher" are doing. New actors but a continuance of the first movie. Definitely I would love to see Matt Damon take over for buddy Ben Affleck if he didn't want to do it. I also want MCD back as Kingpin. Bullseye should be incarcerated, Kingpin would however bribe the jury and get a lesser sentence. He'd get out and try and rebuild his Fisk enterprises. The first way he'd do this is by "putting the fear into Daredevil" by using Mr. Fear. Everywhere Matt goes or does, he'll be hunted, his girlfriend will be unsafe, Foggy and his friendship will be jeopardized, and he'll have to use all of his powers and intelligence at his disposal just to survive.

I would also recast Elektra and someone suggested Roselyn Sanchez. To me she seems like a good Elektra too.

Lastly, got to make it a hard PG-13 or R.
 
Daredevil {Edward Burns}
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Elktra {Rhona Mitra}
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Kingpin {James Gandolfini}
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Bullseye {Ray Park}
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Foggy Nelson {Sean Astin}
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I don't want a remake, I just want a sequel like what "Hulk" and "The Punisher" are doing. New actors but a continuance of the first movie. Definitely I would love to see Matt Damon take over for buddy Ben Affleck if he didn't want to do it. I also want MCD back as Kingpin. Bullseye should be incarcerated, Kingpin would however bribe the jury and get a lesser sentence. He'd get out and try and rebuild his Fisk enterprises. The first way he'd do this is by "putting the fear into Daredevil" by using Mr. Fear. Everywhere Matt goes or does, he'll be hunted, his girlfriend will be unsafe, Foggy and his friendship will be jeopardized, and he'll have to use all of his powers and intelligence at his disposal just to survive.

I would also recast Elektra and someone suggested Roselyn Sanchez. To me she seems like a good Elektra too.

Lastly, got to make it a hard PG-13 or R.

I think you've misunderstood what direction Hulk and the Punisher have taken.
True, they aren't remakes, as a remake entails following the source movie closely, and there's no logic in doing that with a flawed film.
What they have done is a restart where all they do is what is implied, they say the other movie didn't work out, the character has loads of potential, and we will take this in the direction we feel is right.

The Hulk was clearly made with the intention of distancing itself from the Ang film, there has been a few announcements about it, I'm pretty positive the same was said of the Punisher.

That being said, I actually quite enjoyed the Daredevil directors cut, but too many years have gone by, Ben Affleck has already whined about DD being an embarrassing project to make, and I think said he wouldn't bother with a sequel.

The first was good, but it was flawed, I'd just as soon wait for it to fall back in Marvels hands and take it from there.
 
I would do an all green-screen version of Daredevil. Sort of like Sin city and 300.

And i would make two movies(or a trilogy(it seems like trilogys is pretty popular these days)), and the first one have Mr. Hyde as the enemy. He would be awesome, and it would work since its all green-screen.

And in the second mocie i'd put Kririgi and the Hand or something.
 
I honestly dont see the need for a re-boot, i think a sequel that corrected the mistakes of the first movie would be sufficient.

The DC of the first movie is a pretty damn good movie, the cast was great (its the only Affleck role i've liked him in in the last 8 years) and Farrell was superb as Bullseye. Just use less CGI, cut out the 50 foot jumps and do a good story, and a DD sequel could be great.
 
If they reboot they shouldn't use the same characters... I don't think Elecktra should be the main love interest again... I mean I never bothered seeing the spinoff so I don't know how they'd spin her back into the franchise... I'd prefer they just move on to other characters... wouldn't matter to me if Fisk was played by a Black actor or white actor... just don't rehash the same storyline and just recast the roles... just like the Hulk is doing... recasted central characters... new characters filling in the supporting roles.
 

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