Daredevil vs Spider-Man

[King Ruler]

The similarities between these two have been discussed over and over again. As we all know, Spidey came first, and ever since then DD's been seen as a Spidey rip-off, but ever since then Ol' Murdock's left that "shadow" and has become his own hero and everyone respects him now.

But who do you think would in a fight? This is a pretty good one. I would say just hit the lights and Spidey's screwed, but then again he does have Spider Sense. Spider-Man is stronger, but both their reflexes are equal, I believe.

Hmmmm, I don't know, but me being the hardcore DD fan I am, I gotta go with Matt.

 

[Horhey]

The similarities between these two have been discussed over and over again. As we all know, Spidey came first, and ever since then DD's been seen as a Spidey rip-off, but ever since then Ol' Murdock's left that "shadow" and has become his own hero and everyone respects him now.

But who do you think would in a fight? This is a pretty good one. I would say just hit the lights and Spidey's screwed, but then again he does have Spider Sense. Spider-Man is stronger, but both their reflexes are equal, I believe.

Hmmmm, I don't know, but me being the hardcore DD fan I am, I gotta go with Matt.

Um, Daredevil is not on Spider Man's level. Sorry bro, no disrespect to DD.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

DareDevil has beaten Spider-Man several times. How. Spider-Man (at least until recently) holds back on humans. Like the repressed nerd he was he is afraid of hurting normal humans. Therefore speed, agility and strength are all held back in attempts to "control" his power. However anyone knows that when you try to handicap yourself in a fight by "holding back" you can make any opponent nearly unbeatable.

Spider-Man goes into these fights thinking "I don't want to really hurt him" because he...at the end of the day...is the average non combative joe. That in a way is why people like him so much, because like us he really doesn't want to cause a whole lot of trouble for himself (although with little success).

DareDevil, being the experience ninja/boxer/olympic gymnist he is obviously is opportunistic in fights like this and takes advantage. He also has a good degree of wins under his belt like Ultron, Cyclops, Mr Hyde and Cobra, Sabretooth and even Wolverine.

This is not to say, on paper, Spider-Man clearly outweighs DD, he does. However, until Civil War, I'd rarely see Spider-Man go "all out" on human opponents...no matter how dire the situation.

 

[thor87]

Um, Daredevil is not on Spider Man's level. Sorry bro, no disrespect to DD.

sorry bro, after the way he can handled by some d list villians i think spiderman isnt of dd level... we all know thats not true, but the way hes being written is a little more than dissapointing

 

[Vanguard07]

Hmm... given DD's skills and experience i'd say it'd only take 10-12 of him to bring Spiderman down.

 

[Sloth7d]

Hmm... given DD's skills and experience i'd say it'd only take 10-12 of him to bring Spiderman down.

I agree with this. Plus there was that time when Spiderman was under an illusion and DD couldn't even fight back. In the end he had to convince Spiderman he was a goodguy or get pumled.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

Good ol DD is like one of my favorite characters of all time!!! But I can admit that if Spidey is serious he stands little chance.

 

[Paloogin]

It'd be written as closer than it really deserves to be. As much as I love Daredevil, Spiderman is in a different league, and would squash Matt like a bug.

 

[US Agent]

I see this could go either way really, DD has more wins against spidey but spidey (as said before) holds back and is WAY more agile and WAY stronger. If he didn't hold back, DD would be in trouble.

 

[Jplaya2023]

spiderman would rape daredevil

He's faster

Stronger

More Agile

Quicker

Smarter

Cunning

Posses intangibles that only he has in marvel

If he fought seriously he could destroy all of marvel

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I see this could go either way really, DD has more wins against spidey but spidey (as said before) holds back and is WAY more agile and WAY stronger. If he didn't hold back, DD would be in trouble.

Yeah...exactly. IF Spider-Man never held back against humans, IF he was not so afraid of causing harm to them, DD would be in serious trouble.

 

[diespinne]

What exactly is the win-loss ratio between the two? I remember the one decisive victory that DD had against Spidey was during the Sin-Eater arc. Even then, though, he himself admitted he didn't stand much chance against Spidey but was able to exploit how fighting-mad/sloppy/emotional Spidey was at that time. There was another fight in ASM during the Gang War arc where they fought and Spidey gave him a decent beat-down after having some problems with holding back and so forth. The funniest part during that fight was when he tried to blind DD with webbing forgetting that he's blind! There have been a few other fights where Spidey has been under mind control like their first team-up against the Ringmaster and in an Atlantis Attacks crossover annual. They had a couple of other inconclusive fights in the DD comics featuring the Masked Marauder. I'm sure there's a few others...

 

[ShadowBoxing]

What exactly is the win-loss ratio between the two? I remember the one decisive victory that DD had against Spidey was during the Sin-Eater arc. Even then, though, he himself admitted he didn't stand much chance against Spidey but was able to exploit how fighting-mad/sloppy/emotional Spidey was at that time. There was another fight in ASM during the Gang War arc where they fought and Spidey gave him a decent beat-down after having some problems with holding back and so forth. The funniest part during that fight was when he tried to blind DD with webbing forgetting that he's blind! There have been a few other fights where Spidey has been under mind control like their first team-up against the Ringmaster and in an Atlantis Attacks crossover annual. They had a couple of other inconclusive fights in the DD comics featuring the Masked Marauder. I'm sure there's a few others...

I have all the one's you mention. DD wins every last one (except maybe that last one, which was ambiguous).

But, Spider-Man has won one to my knowledge. But as I say he holds back...so really it doesn't matter how many times DD beats him into the ground. DareDevil as you mentions exploits Spidey's own weakness, among those being his inability to fight regular humans effectively.

Spider-Man also got his clock cleaned in a Marvel Team Up.

It's also, like the Ultron battle, an attempt to make DareDevil badass.

 

[diespinne]

I have all the one's you mention. DD wins every last one (except maybe that last one, which was ambiguous).

But, Spider-Man has won one to my knowledge. But as I say he holds back...so really it doesn't matter how many times DD beats him into the ground. DareDevil as you mentions exploits Spidey's own weakness, among those being his inability to fight regular humans effectively.

Spider-Man also got his clock cleaned in a Marvel Team Up.

It's also, like the Ultron battle, an attempt to make DareDevil badass.

All of those fights I mentioned were ambiguous except for the Sin-Eater fight and the Gang War one (Spidey definitely was winning at the end of that one). I'd like to find that Marvel Team-Up. Is it the one where they fight those three animal/human hybrid super villains?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

All of those fights I mentioned were ambiguous except for the Sin-Eater fight and the Gang War one (Spidey definitely was winning at the end of that one). I'd like to find that Marvel Team-Up. Is it the one where they fight those three animal/human hybrid super villains?

I did not catch Gang War. However in Atlantis Attacks it's pretty clear DareDevil overcame Spidey. He doesn't have to kill or knock out to win: just accomplise his objective...which was get Spidey back to normal, which he did (oh and survive)

Yes, it is that Marvel Team Up.

 

[diespinne]

I did not catch Gang War. However in Atlantis Attacks it's pretty clear DareDevil overcame Spidey. He doesn't have to kill or knock out to win: just accomplise his objective...which was get Spidey back to normal, which he did (oh and survive)

Yes, it is that Marvel Team Up.

Heh... yeah, I can't really count those mind control scenarios since the hero who's not under mind control HAS to win. I mean there wouldn't be anymore DD stories if a mind-controlled Spidey made to act like a... mad dog(?) with a spiked collar around his neck managed to strangle and drown DD.

That Gang War issue is ASM 287:

It's a good one as Spidey is pretty much thinking the same things we are the whole fight like how he's so much stronger than DD, etc., but that he keeps holding back. They also have a fight in their civilian identities in the backseat of a taxi which ends in the taxi driver dropping Pete off in the middle of a highway for assaulting a blind man.

How much of a fight did they have in Civil War #4? Someone just mentioned that they tussled in that.

 

[Not Jake]

What the eff, DD beat Ultron? Horrifyingly stupid scans, please

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Heh... yeah, I can't really count those mind control scenarios since the hero who's not under mind control HAS to win. I mean there wouldn't be anymore DD stories if a mind-controlled Spidey made to act like a... mad dog(?) with a spiked collar around his neck managed to strangle and drown DD.

Here is the way I see mind control: It all is a gimmick to get the heroes to fight. Spider-Man wouldn't fight DareDevil in the first place anyways. And if he were really mind controlled...he'd kill DD.

That Gang War issue is ASM 287:

It's a good one as Spidey is pretty much thinking the same things we are the whole fight like how he's so much stronger than DD, etc., but that he keeps holding back. How much of a fight did they have in Civil War #4? Someone just mentioned that they tussled in that.

Spider-Man and Cap do....Captain America does pretty good against him...actually seemed like Cap could have won.

 

[diespinne]

Here is the way I see mind control: It all is a gimmick to get the heroes to fight. Spider-Man wouldn't fight DareDevil in the first place anyways. And if he were really mind controlled...he'd kill DD.


Spider-Man and Cap do....Captain America does pretty good against him...actually seemed like Cap could have won.

That's another good thing about the Gang War and Sin-Eater fights-- they actually had a real, legitimate reason to be fighting in those two. A lot of the early comics would have Spidey just blow his lid and jump into a fight with another hero for the most ridiculous reasons.

Man, Cap is always shown to have the upper-hand in Spidey/Cap confrontations... either that or it's just inconclusive.

I guess martial arts count for a whole lot more than spider-sense, inhuman reflexes, or bench-pressing busses in the Marvel Universe...

 

[thor87]

spiderman has the tools to be one of the most formidle fighters out there, his strength, his speed, agility, and spidey sense, not to mention webbing, which we havent seen much of in a while, but hopefully its still there, and doesnt he have wolverine like spikes 2

 

[Union Jack]

i'd give this to spidey..he is way more durable,faster tougher,quicker and his spider-sense lets him dart around and fight while dodging the things thrown at him..add that with his webbing and his new found (and recently lost due to lack of use) powers then DD doesnt really match up to him.

but daredevil is still really great though!!

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

This is so easy.

Galactus.

 

[diespinne]

Re: The MTU issue where Spidey and Daredevil fight... atleast the way it is described in the review on spiderfan.org, it does not at all read like a victory for DD:

"The assailant was able to get the drop on Spidey because it's someone his spider-sense would never consider a threat, namely our co-star Daredevil. Continuing to act in a bizarre manner, DD starts talking a bunch of trash about taking Spidey out of circulation and presses his attack. Of course, Daredevil is hopelessly outclassed by the webslinger, but because Spidey is unwilling to hurt him they trade blows back and forth for a while. Taking advantage of the distraction, the Catman flees the scene, but he's forced to leave his satchel behind because Spidey webbed it securely to the pavement."

 

[Docker2.0]

You'd think by now Spidey wouldn't be so sloppy as a hero becuase he's been one so long but the truth is, Marvel writes him to be both unbeatable and very beatable at the same time. Anyone who can literally hang with the Hulk one minute and then get whooped by gangsters like the Kingpin is hard to really be a person you can bet on to win all the time.

 

[ssj wolverine]

The similarities between these two have been discussed over and over again. As we all know, Spidey came first, and ever since then DD's been seen as a Spidey rip-off, but ever since then Ol' Murdock's left that "shadow" and has become his own hero and everyone respects him now.

But who do you think would in a fight? This is a pretty good one. I would say just hit the lights and Spidey's screwed, but then again he does have Spider Sense. Spider-Man is stronger, but both their reflexes are equal, I believe.

Hmmmm, I don't know, but me being the hardcore DD fan I am, I gotta go with Matt.

Sorry but DD could only dream of being on Spiderman's level. Peter is superior to him in every way. If Spidey didn't hold back Daredevil would be dead easily.