Sequels David Koepp in Talks for Spider-Man 4!

[RedIsNotBlue]

LINO mutha ****as.

 

[Catman]

2010
Spider-Man 4?

2010? They made us wait too long for the third installment. So, I guess we'll get the fourth installment by 2009. Especially if Tobey returns. Tobey is 30 already, right? Yeah, its better if they didn't take too long in-between films. The guy's age will begin to show.

 

[Venom 1988]

I say:
Keep Tobey, unless they could find someone better(which shouldnt be hard)
Throw away Dunst and replace her ASAP

 

[Catman]

They like Dunst because she has chemistry with Tobey, so they'll try to keep her.

 

[Shifty]

2010? They made us wait too long for the third installment. So, I guess we'll get the fourth installment by 2009. Especially if Tobey returns. Tobey is 30 already, right? Yeah, its better if they didn't take too long in-between films. The guy's age will begin to show.

Maybe Thanksgiving 2009. The script or basic idea will probably be done by the time the movie is out and the the box office results will determine everyone's asking price to return for a fourth one.

 

[Venom 1988]

Also for the Lizard, makes Conners divorced from his wife(with either joint custody or no custody of his kid) and make him a strung out alcoholic. Maybe not original, but its something that hasent been done in the Spidey movies (at least nothing I can think of at the moment).

 

[Catman]

Maybe Thanksgiving 2009. The script or basic idea will probably be done by the time the movie is out and the the box office results will determine everyone's asking price to return for a fourth one.

I don't know, dude, I just don't see why it would take long to make Spider-Man 4. They've already done most of the complicated villains. And, by complicated I mean visual effects. All they have left is Carnage, Mysterio, and MAYBE hobgoblin. But, all the villains left should be a piece of cake. Like, how complicated could the Lizard's effects be? The Lizard doesn't even have to be CGI. Just call Rick Baker to do some badass make-up effects. Kraven doesn't even need visual effects. Shocker wouldn't be that difficult either. Scorpion may be a little more complicated but definitly easier than Doc Ock. And, Chamleon would be a piece of cake. They can do Spider-Man 4 in a year.

Seriously, dude, if Spider-Man 4 was Lizard and Kraven it would be the easiest Spider-Man film they would have made. From a visual effect point-of-view that is.

 

[Shifty]

I don't know, dude, I just don't see why it would take long to make Spider-Man 4. They've already done most of the complicated villains. And, by complicated I mean visual effects. All they have left is Carnage, Mysterio, and MAYBE hobgoblin. But, all the villains left should be a piece of cake. Like, how complicated could the Lizard's effects be? The Lizard doesn't even have to be CGI. Just call Rick Baker to do some badass make-up effects. Kraven doesn't even need visual effects. Shocker wouldn't be that difficult either. Scorpion may be a little more complicated but definitly easier than Doc Ock. And, Chamleon would be a piece of cake. They can do Spider-Man 4 in a year.

Seriously, dude, if Spider-Man 4 was Lizard and Kraven it would be the easiest Spider-Man film they would have made. From a visual effect point-of-view that is.

Very good point, it shouldn't have a giant budget. They were able to do Spider-Man 2 in two years. I guess it depends on the cast and crew if they want to dive right back into it, not on the same scale as the previous ones but potentially just as good, or they enjoyed having that extra year to do other projects/relax.

 

[Catman]

Very good point, it shouldn't have a giant budget. They were able to do Spider-Man 2 in two years. I guess it depends on the cast and crew if they want to dive right back into it, not on the same scale as the previous ones but potentially just as good, or they enjoyed having that extra year to do other projects/relax.

There's only three effects complicated villains left: Carnage, Mysterio, and HobGoblin. Every other villain is a piece of a cake. So, if none of the three complicated villains are in the fourth installment they can make the film in a year. It would be the easiest one they've made so far.

 

[Shifty]

There's only three effects complicated villains left: Carnage, Mysterio, and HobGoblin. Every other villain is a piece of a cake. So, if none of the three complicated villains are in the fourth installment they can make the film in a year. It would be the easiest one they've made so far.

The Superman sequel is already penciled in for 2009, can't wait for the hype or arguments involving Superman vs Spider-Man.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Sounds interesting.

 

[Catman]

The Superman sequel is already penciled in for 2009, can't wait for the hype or arguments involving Superman vs Spider-Man.

And, if it's 2010 it'll be Batman vs. Spider-Man. Unless the third installment of the Batman Begins franchise is released in 2011. It could be possible.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

I can't get behind these people who figure "if they change the actors, we have to start over."

Why?

First of all, not necessary. Second, stupid. Third, Sony would never go for that.

Why do people think a remake every 10 years is a good idea? It's insanely lame, people! The general populace (The crowd that movies are made for... not JUST nerds, y'know?) would be highly adversed to seeing a movie done over again that they've already seen within their own lifetime. So, it doesn't make good sense, that much is obvious. And then I ask: what's wrong with replacing the actors? Look, this isn't "Indiana Jones" or "Ghostbusters", okay? These characters were started in another medium other than movies, the roles don't belong to anybody. Tobey Maguire/Sam Raimi didn't create Spider-Man, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko/Marvel Comics did. You have to expect the face to change every one-in-a-while. Indiana Jones? Anybody but Harrison Ford is a crime. You dig? Because he was really the guy who crafred the character (Of course, with Lucas/Spielberg, but technicalities aside...), Indy is HIS character. Nobody else should play him (at least, not an adult version of him), he can't change hands every few years.

Yeah, Tobey may be great and all, but it's not a crime to replace him, you don't have to restart the continuity! Why, why, why would that be necessary? I want the current team to stay forever, but when they eventually leave, I don't want to call it quits/start over. Not only because that's unnecessary, but it's lame, period.

Not only do I think Batman Begins is a terrible film, but it really helped mess with a lot of people's minds. The restart BS pisses me off. If the movie isn't done the way one fan wants? Restart! If "Cop #3 from the left" has to be played by a new guy? Restart! The ONLY superhero franchise that needed a restart was Superman, and only because of how old the previous first installment was (but it was still pitch-perfect). The Batman franchise didn't need a restart, not from the beginning. Retcon B&R, yes. A complete redo was unnecessary, and it made the newbish comic fans get all these lame ideas into their heads.

My point? No restart until 30 years or so has gone by. It's just lame. But if the franchise should go strong for 30 years, there isn't a need even then. Superman just needed a restart because the franchise was dead for a number of years. If we get new Spider-Man flicks every 4-5 years, (like Bond films) then there is NO need to restart the film continuity, because it won't go dormant.

 

[Shifty]

And, if it's 2010 it'll be Batman vs. Spider-Man. Unless the third installment of the Batman Begins franchise is released in 2011. It could be possible.

It would get ugly on SHH!. And then DC will start putting out Wonder Woman and The Flash.

 

[Road Warrior]

I can't get behind these people who figure "if they change the actors, we have to start over."

Why?

First of all, not necessary. Second, stupid. Third, Sony would never go for that.

Why do people think a remake every 10 years is a good idea? It's insanely lame, people! The general populace (The crowd that movies are made for... not JUST nerds, y'know?) would be highly adversed to seeing a movie done over again that they've already seen within their own lifetime. So, it doesn't make good sense, that much is obvious. And then I ask: what's wrong with replacing the actors? Look, this isn't "Indiana Jones" or "Ghostbusters", okay? These characters were started in another medium other than movies, the roles don't belong to anybody. Tobey Maguire/Sam Raimi didn't create Spider-Man, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko/Marvel Comics did. You have to expect the face to change every one-in-a-while. Indiana Jones? Anybody but Harrison Ford is a crime. You dig? Because he was really the guy who crafred the character (Of course, with Lucas/Spielberg, but technicalities aside...), Indy is HIS character. Nobody else should play him (at least, not an adult version of him), he can't change hands every few years.

Yeah, Tobey may be great and all, but it's not a crime to replace him, you don't have to restart the continuity! Why, why, why would that be necessary? I want the current team to stay forever, but when they eventually leave, I don't want to call it quits/start over. Not only because that's unnecessary, but it's lame, period.

Not only do I think Batman Begins is a terrible film, but it really helped mess with a lot of people's minds. The restart BS pisses me off. If the movie isn't done the way one fan wants? Restart! If "Cop #3 from the left" has to be played by a new guy? Restart! The ONLY superhero franchise that needed a restart was Superman, and only because of how old the previous first installment was (but it was still pitch-perfect). The Batman franchise didn't need a restart, not from the beginning. Retcon B&R, yes. A complete redo was unnecessary, and it made the newbish comic fans get all these lame ideas into their heads.

My point? No restart until 30 years or so has gone by. It's just lame. But if the franchise should go strong for 30 years, there isn't a need even then. Superman just needed a restart because the franchise was dead for a number of years. If we get new Spider-Man flicks every 4-5 years, (like Bond films) then there is NO need to restart the film continuity, because it won't go dormant.

I agree. Also, I wanna add that I like David Koepp. So, this is all interesting and good news.

 

[Catman]

I can't get behind these people who figure "if they change the actors, we have to start over."

Why?

First of all, not necessary. Second, stupid. Third, Sony would never go for that.

Why do people think a remake every 10 years is a good idea? It's insanely lame, people! The general populace (The crowd that movies are made for... not JUST nerds, y'know?) would be highly adversed to seeing a movie done over again that they've already seen within their own lifetime. So, it doesn't make good sense, that much is obvious. And then I ask: what's wrong with replacing the actors? Look, this isn't "Indiana Jones" or "Ghostbusters", okay? These characters were started in another medium other than movies, the roles don't belong to anybody. Tobey Maguire/Sam Raimi didn't create Spider-Man, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko/Marvel Comics did. You have to expect the face to change every one-in-a-while. Indiana Jones? Anybody but Harrison Ford is a crime. You dig? Because he was really the guy who crafred the character (Of course, with Lucas/Spielberg, but technicalities aside...), Indy is HIS character. Nobody else should play him (at least, not an adult version of him), he can't change hands every few years.

Yeah, Tobey may be great and all, but it's not a crime to replace him, you don't have to restart the continuity! Why, why, why would that be necessary? I want the current team to stay forever, but when they eventually leave, I don't want to call it quits/start over. Not only because that's unnecessary, but it's lame, period.

Not only do I think Batman Begins is a terrible film, but it really helped mess with a lot of people's minds. The restart BS pisses me off. If the movie isn't done the way one fan wants? Restart! If "Cop #3 from the left" has to be played by a new guy? Restart! The ONLY superhero franchise that needed a restart was Superman, and only because of how old the previous first installment was (but it was still pitch-perfect). The Batman franchise didn't need a restart, not from the beginning. Retcon B&R, yes. A complete redo was unnecessary, and it made the newbish comic fans get all these lame ideas into their heads.

My point? No restart until 30 years or so has gone by. It's just lame. But if the franchise should go strong for 30 years, there isn't a need even then. Superman just needed a restart because the franchise was dead for a number of years. If we get new Spider-Man flicks every 4-5 years, (like Bond films) then there is NO need to restart the film continuity, because it won't go dormant.

Agreed.

It would get ugly on SHH!. And then DC will start putting out Wonder Woman and The Flash.

lol. yeah.

 

[Shifty]

I agree. Also, I wanna add that I like David Koepp. So, this is all interesting and good news.

If he can solve the Indiana Jones 4 problem, he's the best quy to start Spider-Man 4.

 

[Catman]

If he can solve the Indiana Jones 4 problem, he's the best quy to start Spider-Man 4.

Kevin and I avoided bringing that up. Everyone is praying that Indy IV will kick ass, but let's not jump to conclusion.

 

[Shifty]

Kevin and I avoided bringing that up. Everyone is praying that Indy IV will kick ass, but let's not jump to conclusion.

In the end it may not be great but 19 years is a lot to live up to. If Spielberg and Ford like it then c'mon. He came up with a script that has the same feel but isn't a fanboy script.

But didn't the Raimi Brothers work on Spider-Man 3's story and then brought in the screenwriters?

 

[Catman]

In the end it may not be great but 19 years is a lot to live up to. If Spielberg and Ford like it then c'mon. He came up with a script that has the same feel but isn't a fanboy script.

Let's cross our fingers and hope for the best.

But didn't the Raimi Brothers work on Spider-Man 3's story and then brought in the screenwriters?

That is correct. Sam and his brother Ivan wrote the outline. But, their outline didn't include Venom. Avi Arad forced that on Raimi.

 

[Shifty]

Let's cross our fingers and hope for the best.



That is correct. Sam and his brother Ivan wrote the outline. But, their outline didn't include Venom. Avi Arad forced that on Raimi.

So no outline for Spider-Man 4?

 

[Catman]

No. Raimi isn't thinking about that yet. He focuses on one film at a time.

 

[ultimatefan]

If Raimi remains involved with the fourth movie, he´s likely to do what he´s done in the second one: Koepp may write a treatment or first draft and Sargent will do the heavy work, which works pretty damn good for me.

 

[kansas boy]

Well Marvel has these films in development, and they would only have two or three comic book films a year. I wouldn't be surprised if a third Fantastic Four is made for 2009.

2008
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Ant-Man

2009
Wolverine ?
Fantastic Four 3 ?

2010
Spider-Man 4 ?


Luke Cage
Deathlok
Gargoyle
Magneto
Namor
The Punisher 2
Captain America
Nicky Fury/SHIELD
The Avengers

They could also need even more time to write a script that is comparable to to the previous ones and doesn't turn into B&R or Superman IV.

Don't forget we'll also get Captain America, Superman sequel and Fantastic Four 3 all in the same year.

Spider-man 4 will be out in 2010, trust me. Captain is going to be financed in 2008 for a summer 2009 release date. Then you have FF3, if they finance that film in 2008, that's 2 films right there. You can't do it. Not unless you want the Spidey film to be very low budget. Uh...NO!

You don't want to force these actors straight into another film. Who wants a Spidey film where the actors look like their bored to death. You have to let it air out some. Let them do other films, then come back 2 years later.

2010 ladies and gents, they(Sony) just want to see what SM3 makes at the box office first. Then they'll do contracts up.

 

[Venom 1988]

Don't forget we'll also get Captain America, Superman sequel and Fantastic Four 3 all in the same year.

Hes talking Marvel movies. Just a lil something to point out.