DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 6

[Franklin Richards]

I thought that Gandalf did not throw the ring as he feared that ring would corrupt him and he would not be able to throw it into fires of Mount Doom.

He could have given Frodo a ride.

 

[Anubis]

Either way, the point is, instead of walking all that way, they could have flown on the back of a giant f**king Eagle and been done with all that crap in 20 minutes.

maybe even pick up some Chinese on the way back.

 

[JTStarkiller]

Melmoth's beard! From the advice of Cain and Mysti, decided to pick up Frankenstein. The first issue was quite a bit more exciting than I imagined it would be. Lemire, you magnificent bastard. I'm in.

 

[Micromind]

Either way, the point is, instead of walking all that way, they could have flown on the back of a giant f**king Eagle and been done with all that crap in 20 minutes.

maybe even pick up some Chinese on the way back.

No, they wouldn't be able to reach Mt. Doom, as eye of Sauron would have seen tham and sent flying Nazgûls to attack them (Black Dragon like creatures.) t:

 

[Anubis]

He didn't even know where the thing was unless it was worn.

Also, Gandalf is a Wizard. He can't figure out some kinda misdirection spell? Maybe an illusion of a giant chicks leg with fish net stockings for Sauron to look at while they sneak in the back door? Cuz if not, then he's no David Copperfield.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Magneto could slip past some effin' Nazgul.

 

[Sloth7d]

He didn't even know where the thing was unless it was worn.

He had spies everywhere, including Sarumon with his clairvoyance and random bats flying around.

Also, Gandalf is a Wizard. He can't figure out some kinda misdirection spell? Maybe an illusion of a giant chicks leg with fish net stockings for Sauron to look at while they sneak in the back door? Cuz if not, then he's no David Copperfield.

Sarumon was an even greater wizard at the time. Logic says whatever defense Gandalf could think up, Sarumon would counter with in greater power. Just look at how he was kicking his ass with that blizzard spell that forced them to retreat to the dwarven mines.

 

[Franklin Richards]

You got something against Halfling Weed?

 

[Kitsune]

either way, the point is, instead of walking all that way, they could have flown on the back of a giant f**king eagle and been done with all that crap in 20 minutes.

Maybe even pick up some chinese on the way back.

♫frodo of the nine fingers and the eggroll of doom ♫

 

[redhawk23]

^lol

 

[Hush]

No, they wouldn't be able to reach Mt. Doom, as eye of Sauron would have seen tham and sent flying Nazgûls to attack them (Black Dragon like creatures.) t:

Black Dragons= Fell Beasts.

 

[moraldeficiency]

God I love this thread.

 

[Mystirious]

Melmoth's beard! From the advice of Cain and Mysti, decided to pick up Frankenstein. The first issue was quite a bit more exciting than I imagined it would be. Lemire, you magnificent bastard. I'm in.

Yay!

Glad that you liked it JT I hope that you dig the other two issues that have come out so far too

Also, Gandalf is a Wizard. He can't figure out some kinda misdirection spell? Maybe an illusion of a giant chicks leg with fish net stockings for Sauron to look at while they sneak in the back door? Cuz if not, then he's no David Copperfield.

Sauron would be all 'I'mma give you my spooky flaming eye lovin' giant leg' and wouldn't notice them sneaking into Mt Doom

 

[trustyside-kick]

Batwoman #3 felt so short.

 

[Kahoot]

Are DC doing a Lord of the Rings reboot now? They really are relaunching everything!

 

[Mystirious]

Batwoman #3 felt so short.

I thought it seemed like a pretty good length. Maybe a bit of a quicker read than the first two issues

 

[trustyside-kick]

It was expected, but when a title I WISH was good continues to print it annoys me when it isn't. Really disliked Red Hood and the Outlaws #3.

 

[Saint]

Here's an interesting experiment: it's clear that the New 52 is a success at this point--but what about the reboot? When I think about the New 52 books that I enjoy the most, I find very few of them are books that actually benefited from the rebooted continuity. Indeed, it seems almost all of the genuinely good books didn't need the reboot at all, and some books were simply hurt by it.

Batman, Batman & Robin, Nightwing, Batwoman - did not benefit from the reboot, did not need the reboot in order to tell the stories currently being told.

Green Lantern, New Guardians, etc - did not benefit from the reboot, did not need the reboot in order to tell the stories currently being told.

Wonder Woman - Huge improvement, but so far the improvement has nothing to do with rebooted continuity. Could have been done in the previous continuity.

Swamp Thing - based on what I understand, it's not much affected by the reboot and didn't need it.

Animal Man - Not affected, didn't need it.


On the other side of things, books like Flash have been greatly diminished by the reboot. Truth is, the only books I've read that picked up the reboot ball and carried it to the touchdown are Action Comics and Aquaman. They made huge gains because of the reboot.

The real success of the New 52 isn't the reboot, it's the strategic assignment of quality talent (just like Spider-Man's BND). Most of these books would have been exactly the same (and exactly as awesome) if the same talent had been assigned to them with no reboot. Now, maybe that means that the reboot didn't need to happen (though I would say that, for the sake of Superman alone, I'm glad it did), or it might mean that the opportunity it presented simply wasn't exploited as well as it should have been. Also, they wrote out Wally West without even giving him a damn send off, so **** them forever. Ahem.

I'm interested to hear how other people's favourite books stack up; are the books you like ones that could have existed without the reboot?

Side note: Wonder Woman #3 was goddamn incredible. I'm making my incrediface right now.

 

[Zionite]

Here's an interesting experiment: it's clear that the New 52 is a success at this point--but what about the reboot? When I think about the New 52 books that I enjoy the most, I find very few of them are books that actually benefited from the rebooted continuity. Indeed, it seems almost all of the genuinely good books didn't need the reboot at all, and some books were simply hurt by it.

Batman, Batman & Robin, Nightwing, Batwoman - did not benefit from the reboot, did not need the reboot in order to tell the stories currently being told.

Green Lantern, New Guardians, etc - did not benefit from the reboot, did not need the reboot in order to tell the stories currently being told.

Wonder Woman - Huge improvement, but so far the improvement has nothing to do with rebooted continuity. Could have been done in the previous continuity.

Swamp Thing - based on what I understand, it's not much affected by the reboot and didn't need it.

Animal Man - Not affected, didn't need it.


On the other side of things, books like Flash have been greatly diminished by the reboot. Truth is, the only books I've read that picked up the reboot ball and carried it to the touchdown are Action Comics and Aquaman. They made huge gains because of the reboot.

The real success of the New 52 isn't the reboot, it's the strategic assignment of quality talent (just like Spider-Man's BND). Most of these books would have been exactly the same (and exactly as awesome) if the same talent had been assigned to them with no reboot. Now, maybe that means that the reboot didn't need to happen (though I would say that, for the sake of Superman alone, I'm glad it did), or it might mean that the opportunity it presented simply wasn't exploited as well as it should have been. Also, they wrote out Wally West without even giving him a damn send off, so **** them forever. Ahem.

I'm interested to hear how other people's favourite books stack up; are the books you like ones that could have existed without the reboot?

Side note: Wonder Woman #3 was goddamn incredible. I'm making my incrediface right now.

Well Superman,Wonderwoman,and some of the Young heroes needed a reboot.The rest didnt.
Thats why Dc had to do go with a Partail reboot.Of course the Problem with the partial reboot is that it convultes continuity-look at batman.
Oh we are finally beating marvel in the market-hurray.

 

[Zionite]

sorry for double post

 

[Micromind]

Wonder Woman #3 was good read but there are some elements that were unnecessarily included, most obvious one is that by making Diana a biological offspring of Zeus and Hippolyta, they have robbed the character of her unique origins, they could have shown the amazon queen making a baby made of Clay and then shown Zeus visiting her as he was in love with her and he could have used his powers to bring that baby to life.

I am not against the current re-imagining either but I am not sure if DC are authorized legally to change the origins, I mean as I understand Marston estate still has some rights to WW ?

But overall I think that new WW title is doing great, the art work is super.

The best titles out of new DC 52 launch are -

Batman and Robin, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Action Comics, Superman, Green Lantern, Demon Knights and JL.

 

[Mystirious]

Here's an interesting experiment: it's clear that the New 52 is a success at this point--but what about the reboot? When I think about the New 52 books that I enjoy the most, I find very few of them are books that actually benefited from the rebooted continuity. Indeed, it seems almost all of the genuinely good books didn't need the reboot at all, and some books were simply hurt by it.

Batman, Batman & Robin, Nightwing, Batwoman - did not benefit from the reboot, did not need the reboot in order to tell the stories currently being told.

Green Lantern, New Guardians, etc - did not benefit from the reboot, did not need the reboot in order to tell the stories currently being told.

Wonder Woman - Huge improvement, but so far the improvement has nothing to do with rebooted continuity. Could have been done in the previous continuity.

Swamp Thing - based on what I understand, it's not much affected by the reboot and didn't need it.

Animal Man - Not affected, didn't need it.


On the other side of things, books like Flash have been greatly diminished by the reboot. Truth is, the only books I've read that picked up the reboot ball and carried it to the touchdown are Action Comics and Aquaman. They made huge gains because of the reboot.

The real success of the New 52 isn't the reboot, it's the strategic assignment of quality talent (just like Spider-Man's BND). Most of these books would have been exactly the same (and exactly as awesome) if the same talent had been assigned to them with no reboot. Now, maybe that means that the reboot didn't need to happen (though I would say that, for the sake of Superman alone, I'm glad it did), or it might mean that the opportunity it presented simply wasn't exploited as well as it should have been. Also, they wrote out Wally West without even giving him a damn send off, so **** them forever. Ahem.

I'm interested to hear how other people's favourite books stack up; are the books you like ones that could have existed without the reboot?

Side note: Wonder Woman #3 was goddamn incredible. I'm making my incrediface right now.

I loves the post relaunch series but I agree DC didn't need to reboot their continuity to do any of this. I think they should have done the new 52 relaunch but not rebooted any of their continuity

Still I'm really enjoying the vast majority of DC books right now so I can't complain

 

[HighFivingMF]

I agree with the "Flash greatly diminished" part. Minus the "ly diminished" bit.

Flash great.

 

[Mystirious]

Here's an interesting experiment: it's clear that the New 52 is a success at this point--but what about the reboot? When I think about the New 52 books that I enjoy the most, I find very few of them are books that actually benefited from the rebooted continuity. Indeed, it seems almost all of the genuinely good books didn't need the reboot at all, and some books were simply hurt by it.

Batman, Batman & Robin, Nightwing, Batwoman - did not benefit from the reboot, did not need the reboot in order to tell the stories currently being told.

Green Lantern, New Guardians, etc - did not benefit from the reboot, did not need the reboot in order to tell the stories currently being told.

Wonder Woman - Huge improvement, but so far the improvement has nothing to do with rebooted continuity. Could have been done in the previous continuity.

Swamp Thing - based on what I understand, it's not much affected by the reboot and didn't need it.

Animal Man - Not affected, didn't need it.


On the other side of things, books like Flash have been greatly diminished by the reboot. Truth is, the only books I've read that picked up the reboot ball and carried it to the touchdown are Action Comics and Aquaman. They made huge gains because of the reboot.

The real success of the New 52 isn't the reboot, it's the strategic assignment of quality talent (just like Spider-Man's BND). Most of these books would have been exactly the same (and exactly as awesome) if the same talent had been assigned to them with no reboot. Now, maybe that means that the reboot didn't need to happen (though I would say that, for the sake of Superman alone, I'm glad it did), or it might mean that the opportunity it presented simply wasn't exploited as well as it should have been. Also, they wrote out Wally West without even giving him a damn send off, so **** them forever. Ahem.

I'm interested to hear how other people's favourite books stack up; are the books you like ones that could have existed without the reboot?

Side note: Wonder Woman #3 was goddamn incredible. I'm making my incrediface right now.

I loves the post relaunch series but I agree DC didn't need to reboot their continuity to do any of this. I think they should have done the new 52 relaunch but not rebooted any of their continuity

Still I'm really enjoying the vast majority of DC books right now so I can't complain

 

[Mystirious]

I agree with the "Flash greatly diminished" part. Minus the "ly diminished" bit.

Flash great.

The new series has been good but it needs more Wally