DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 8

[CConn]

I hope it's not a battle between them. That'd be even dumber than AvX.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I hope Morrison, Snyder, and Azzarello are involved.

 

[Cain]

I hope Morrison, Snyder, and Azzarello are involved.

Even with those cats involved I'll still boo this ****. It's quite unnecessary and definitely screams of AvX envy (assuming it is the Trinity versus each other). Even if it's not after having successful GL and Flash centric events why not continue along those lines? an Aquaman event could be quite cool and I'd rather read that than "Superman, Wonder Woman and The Batman have saved the world......again."

 

[HighFivingMF]

It doesn't say they're fighting each other for sure and even it were I'm sure they at least had some idea of it before AvX sold big. Avengers Vs. X-Men isn't the first time heroes have come to blows and it won't be the last.

 

[Cain]

The reason why those one-shots were awful was because of decompression.

If you get rid of the decompression, you get rid of the issues that plague modern one-shots.

But you're right; today's comic book writers don't know how to properly pace one-shots. They don't know how to properly comics in general.

Even absolutely awesome series are often extremely decompressed compared to classic comics. That's the problem.

The previous Jonah Hex volume successfully pulled the one shot concept for 85% of it's run. I don't think it's impossible within a modern context. I would love to see it more often. The real problem is that too many writers just use writing comics as "I can write cinematic scripts" auditions for movie producers.

 

[Cain]

It doesn't say they're fighting each other for sure and even it were I'm sure they at least had some idea of it before AvX sold big. Avengers Vs. X-Men isn't the first time heroes have come to blows and it won't be the last.

The problem is many of us including myself (DC reader for 24 yrs now) have seen them even come to blows with each other many times before. It's more often than not boring as hell too. This is supposed to be the NEW (keyword) 52 here so they shouldn't be trying stuff we've seen them trying many times before anymore.

 

[HighFivingMF]

You know, the Trinity War might have something to do with Pandora? What the back-up in issue 6 is supposed to lead up to? Pandora and maybe Phantom Stranger and The Spectre, with the Justice League caught in the middle of course.

 

[Cain]

You know, the Trinity War might have something to do with Pandora? What the back-up in issue 6 is supposed to lead up to? Pandora and maybe Phantom Stranger and The Spectre, with the Justice League caught in the middle of course.

I thought that was going to be an event played out within the pages of the JL book itself not an independent series. I was actually going to pick the title back up for that arc. If that's what they ended up calling the Pandora thing and not another mini series then yeah I guess I'm game after all cause I was up for reading it anyway. I'm very curious to see what they fold back into the timeline and all that.

 

[RockSP]

This is supposed to be the NEW (keyword) 52 here so they shouldn't be trying stuff we've seen them trying many times before anymore.

Heh, you've got a lot of disappointment to look forward to.

 

[Cain]

Heh, you've got a lot of disappointment to look forward to.

Is there something you know that we don't?

 

[RockSP]

Specifically, no. But "trying stuff they've tried many times before" is pretty much s.o.p. for the big two.

 

[Cain]

I mean it's a given; serial comics are cyclical. I thought you had details that it was just another retread on the horizon or something. That would've been a very quick turn around considering how young their new universe still is and how up till now they've been pretty much delivering on the "new" element of it all.

 

[CConn]

The previous Jonah Hex volume successfully pulled the one shot concept for 85% of it's run. I don't think it's impossible within a modern context. I would love to see it more often. The real problem is that too many writers just use writing comics as "I can write cinematic scripts" auditions for movie producers.

On no, it's possible. I just don't think any current writer would actually do it.

And even with as good as Hex was, it didn't was never as compressed as classic comics. Plus heh didn't explore the serialized nature of comics.

But like you said, they're all too concerned about writing film scripts to do that.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Paul Dini's Detective run during OYL was mostly one-and-dones. That was completely awesome.

 

[CConn]

I'm not so much talking about one and dones though. It's about an entirely different style or writing comics. A better modern example of a well paced comic would be Watchmen. Or Swamp Thing.

 

[Kurosawa]

They might as well put me in an asylum then. Cause I love rap music (mind you not today's mainstream rap) and have listened to The Beatles. Why stop at The Beatles though since I'm not even much of a fan; I love rap music as much as I love the music of Hendrix, the Beach Boys, Pink Floyd, The New York Dolls, The Velvet Underground, Cream, Zeppelin and Sabbath. It's possible to be multifaceted to such an extent you know.

I don't consider rap to be music due to the lack of melody, harmony and key, but I do think it is art.

I thought that was going to be an event played out within the pages of the JL book itself not an independent series. I was actually going to pick the title back up for that arc. If that's what they ended up calling the Pandora thing and not another mini series then yeah I guess I'm game after all cause I was up for reading it anyway. I'm very curious to see what they fold back into the timeline and all that.

Who knows what it will be but the title itself is kinda lame and predictable. But with a title like "The Trinity War" I just automatically assume it will make Superman look like a chump somehow.

 

[CConn]

It depends on what kind of rap.

Classic hip hop could have plenty of legitimate music in it. It's just more recently that rap has turned into some guy reciting poetry over a beatbox.

 

[Kurosawa]

The backing tracks are no doubt music, the rap itself is not.

 

[CConn]

Its all one cohesive package, though.

 

[Kurosawa]

You can rap without a backing track. Well, I can't but someone who can rap can.

 

[CConn]

Oh, then yeah. Obviously. Then it's just reading poetry.

 

[Anubis]

But you can sing without music too. It's called Acappella motha f**kas.

Face it captain retro, you just a hater.

Ask some dude that was a teen in the 30's about the Beatles, they'll say they suck or, whatever passes for suck in 1930's slang and George Gershwin a God. That's what happens. The last Generation's s**t is way better than the next one. 30 years from now, aged hipsters are gonna be saying how much more awesome the Gaga was compared to whatever is supposed to be pop music in the future.....and your generation will probably be dead or so old your opinion no longer matters.

Circle of life.

 

[Mystirious]

We got to see the new Mary Marvel in jla this week and she is adorable

They actually got the character right and wrote her as being sweet and kind without being naive She's so cute!

Billy however has become an even bigger dbag. This issue he makes a girl whose parents abandoned her cry by acting like a horrible jerk

Yay

 

[WompuM]

I'd like to see some conflict between Batman Superman and Wonder Woman, but I would much rather see conflict with those 3 against the Guardians, since it's clear Jordan won't clean up the mess that is Oa.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I was kinda right! Pandora is one of the three!

Well that got commented on rather quickly.

Trinity War, as first mentioned on Bleeding Cool yesterday…

“has probably something to do with the Trinity of Evil which gets introduced in DC’s FCBD comic. Pandora is one of the Trinity.”

“It appears to be the 3 original sinners, of which Pandora has already been disclosed. Let me just say that the identities of the other 2 will surprise and amaze you.”

“I read the FCBD issue from DC last night. Trinity War probably has to do with the three sinners of the DC New. One is Pandora, the other is the [REDACTED], and weirdly the last one is the [REDACTED]. That’s right. [REDACTED] is somehow magic based now. Also, they are punished by the seven gods who gave Shazam his power.”

“In it, there is a group referred to as the “Trinity of Sin.” This group includes Pandora,[REDACTED], and [REDACTED] (I have no idea why). The Rock of Eternity, a council of powerful wizards (thanks, Geoff Johns), sentences them to [REDACTED]. This may have something do with DC’s Trinity War, but I’m not sure. Maybe Pandora, [REDACTED], and [REDACTED] versus Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman? Who knows?”

Yeah, you see, even I have a line with spoilers. But below is the gatefold foldout by Geoff Johns and Jim Lee from the DC Free Comic Book Day, pieced together from a variety of photos sent to me, and still not complete. If you want to see what’s going on, clicky for biggy.

It looks mighty fine. Though they’ll have some time beating Archaia’s FCBD offering I hear.

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