DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 8

[hippie_hunter]

I seem to recall they said that the Crises happened, but happened differently. Either way, the point is that it's stupid. Everything that buggers up Batman continuity is stupid. Fact.

Dan DiDio has stated that none of the events in the various Crises happened. The only effects that remain are the various multiversal mergings that have essentially formed the DCU that we have.

 

[Savage]

Dan DiDio has stated that none of the events in the various Crises happened. The only effects that remain are the various multiversal mergings that have essentially formed the DCU that we have.

...WHAT?!

I guess that simplifies things but I kinda feel like none of the books I own matter now. At least they're still entertaining reads.

 

[CLARKY]

...WHAT?!

I guess that simplifies things but I kinda feel like none of the books I own matter now. At least they're still entertaining reads.

I have the same feeling. And yeah, ok, they are entertaining, but my main feeling is ; they are useless. I was still looking for books to complete my collection or have a better look on some aspects of this or that character, but now, it is all useless, except if I really love the character, I won't look for old comics. I may repeat myself but this "new 52 relaunch" is completely beyond the reach of my brain capacities. Not the first time it happens thus.

 

[Mystirious]

It's best just to enjoy the stories and not worry too much about the continuity

 

[Anubis]

Thats like trying to drop a deuce in public with a Nazi polar bear holding a shot gun in your face.......What???

 

[Mystirious]

There are Nazi polar bears

I blame all the caffeine in the coca cola. It makes them crazy

 

[CConn]

I'm going to say something rather shocking...but I kinda think it would be smarter if DC copied Marvel's publishing strategy to a degree.

Rather than having 52 titles, and about 25 of them being awful and/or written by Rob Liefield, it would probably be much more financially successful if they cut their line down to 25-30 titles that are actually good and just do some double shippings instead.

I'd much rather have two issues of Batwoman or Animan Man a month, then one issue of both of those good titles, and one issue of Mr. Terrific or something else awful.

 

[Lord]

I have the same feeling. And yeah, ok, they are entertaining, but my main feeling is ; they are useless. I was still looking for books to complete my collection or have a better look on some aspects of this or that character, but now, it is all useless, except if I really love the character, I won't look for old comics. I may repeat myself but this "new 52 relaunch" is completely beyond the reach of my brain capacities. Not the first time it happens thus.

Well, technically they happened at one ´point in the DCU's existence, but the event Flashpoint made them not happen, but don't also forget that the return of the flash in Final crisis trigered Flashpoint so they are in a certain way important to why the DCU is like this right now.

Besides, right now, basically the books that mather are the post- new 52 ones, the rest are non-canon or happened differently, Batman comics being an example of the later.

 

[Mystirious]

I'm going to say something rather shocking...but I kinda think it would be smarter if DC copied Marvel's publishing strategy to a degree.

Rather than having 52 titles, and about 25 of them being awful and/or written by Rob Liefield, it would probably be much more financially successful if they cut their line down to 25-30 titles that are actually good and just do some double shippings instead.

I'd much rather have two issues of Batwoman or Animan Man a month, then one issue of both of those good titles, and one issue of Mr. Terrific or something else awful.

That might be tough on some of the artists though

The art in Batwoman is so lovely i wouln't want them to rush it to get it out twice a month

I would love two issues of Batwoman every month but I don't think it would be possible. I dont mind waiting a month for each issue as its always the best comic book of the month and so worth the wait

 

[RoughNTumble]

I'm going to say something rather shocking...but I kinda think it would be smarter if DC copied Marvel's publishing strategy to a degree.

Rather than having 52 titles, and about 25 of them being awful and/or written by Rob Liefield, it would probably be much more financially successful if they cut their line down to 25-30 titles that are actually good and just do some double shippings instead.

I'd much rather have two issues of Batwoman or Animan Man a month, then one issue of both of those good titles, and one issue of Mr. Terrific or something else awful.

I can get behind this. There's only so much talent to go around. We don't need a bunch of 90's hacks lurking in the ranks and diluting the place with mediocrity.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I'd rather the bad books have a chance to recover after Liefield has his way with them.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I'm going to say something rather shocking...but I kinda think it would be smarter if DC copied Marvel's publishing strategy to a degree.

Rather than having 52 titles, and about 25 of them being awful and/or written by Rob Liefield, it would probably be much more financially successful if they cut their line down to 25-30 titles that are actually good and just do some double shippings instead.

I'd much rather have two issues of Batwoman or Animan Man a month, then one issue of both of those good titles, and one issue of Mr. Terrific or something else awful.

That would require good, and usually slow, artists to get out two issues a month. It just ain't gonna happen.

It's best just to enjoy the stories and not worry too much about the continuity

I've just substituted my own continuity for DC's, which makes about as much sense as a bouncy castle made of butter.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I made a goof

 

[hippie_hunter]

That might be tough on some of the artists though

It is very tough, the double shipping for Marvel's books is severely dropping the artistic quality of their books IMO.

The art in Batwoman is so lovely i wouln't want them to rush it to get it out twice a month

J.H. Williams III being able to put out a bi-monthly book would be utterly impossible. Add in the fact that there really is no one compatible to go along with him the way say Paulo Rivera and Marcos Martin are for Daredevil.

I would love two issues of Batwoman every month but I don't think it would be possible. I dont mind waiting a month for each issue as its always the best comic book of the month and so worth the wait

I have gotten so sick of the double shipping that I just prefer DC to keep on putting one issue out a month.

 

[RoughNTumble]

have 3 artists rotate on a book, boom problem solved

 

[hippie_hunter]

have 3 artists rotate on a book, boom problem solved

But most of the time, the artists just aren't compatible with each other. A book needs artistic consistency and when books keep getting different artist after different artist after different artist, it gets a little wary.

Marcos Martin and Paulo Rivera on Daredevil are a rare combo of two artists who are very compatible with one another in their styles. Or take Batwoman for example, that book thrives on the great art and getting an artist that is not compatible with J.H. Williams III is really going to drag it down.

 

[CConn]

That would require good, and usually slow, artists to get out two issues a month. It just ain't gonna happen.

No, you just get two moderately talented artists to take turns with arcs.

Like for Captain America, Steve McNiven did the first arc, which then gave Alan Davis plenty of time to have his arc be bi-weekly.

DC is already doing the same thing with JL and Batwoman...it would just have to be done on a larger scale.

I have gotten so sick of the double shipping that I just prefer DC to keep on putting one issue out a month.

Yes, but you've gotten sick of it because Marvel's editorial staff ****es out their books more than a Hollywood Madame ****es out her, well, ****es.

The actual concept itself isn't that bad. If DC did it with some sophistication and dignity...it wouldn't be bad.

 

[CConn]

But most of the time, the artists just aren't compatible with each other. A book needs artistic consistency and when books keep getting different artist after different artist after different artist, it gets a little wary.

I disagree, there's plenty of dual artists than complement each other.

For instance:

Mike Wieringo (granted, RIP) and Todd Nauck
Andy Clarke and Claude St. Aubin in REBELS
Cully Hamner and Rafael Albuguergue in Blue Beetle
Carlos Pacheco and Jesus Merino in Superman/Batman
Pablo Raimondi and Emanuela Lupacchino in X-Factor
David Finch and Jay Fabok in Batman: The Dark Knight
Esad Ribic and Jerome Opena in Uncanny X-Force
Rafael Albuguergue and Sean Philips in American Vampire
Mike Allred and J.Bone in iZombie
Alex Maleev and Michael Lark in Daredevil
Steve Epting, Butch Guice, and Luke Ross in Captain America
Mike McKone and Barry Kitson in Fantastic Four
Corey Walker and Ryan Ottley in Invinible
Tony Moore and Charlie Adlard in The Walking Dead
and Tony Moore and Lan Medina in Venom

And that's just off the top of my head.

 

[CConn]

I also disagree with a book needing artistic consistency. I think it can go both ways. While I loved the consistency that books like REBELs or Ultimate Spider-Man had throughout, it can also be cool to see rotating styles, like they've done in Captain America or New Avengers.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I myself dont like having rotating styles. I say if it aint broke dont fix it, if it fits the book then keep it.

 

[CConn]

The reason for rotating styles is usually because it will break if one artist is the only one on the book.

Like Gene Ha is on Justice League because Jim Lee wouldn't be able to get his art done on time otherwise.

 

[RoughNTumble]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/shazam_electrifies_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL?utm_mediu

batman+black lightning+teen angst+PG's new costume = shazam?

 

[Primal Slayer]

The reason for rotating styles is usually because it will break if one artist is the only one on the book.

Like Gene Ha is on Justice League because Jim Lee wouldn't be able to get his art done on time otherwise.

I am fine with a fill in artist just not the proposed constant rotating of artists.

 

[Kahoot]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/shazam_electrifies_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL?utm_mediu

batman+black lightning+teen angst+PG's new costume = shazam?

So 73 years of history and they want to change his name... I have always wondered why Captain Marvel was a DC character but that's still no excuse to re-name him now. So when he fights Superman for the first time in the reboot does this mean he can't tell Superman his name without turning back to Billy Batson?

 

[Mystirious]

Maybe his powers will work differently in the new 52