Legends of Tomorrow DC's Legends of Tomorrow Season 1 Episode 3: "Blood Ties"

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Fun episode.

This show feels way less CW than Arrow and Flash. Canary is 10x cooler here than she ever was on Arrow. All the character interactions are fresh. So sick of Felicity, Diggle, Iris, etc on the other shows.

It was awesome to see some shrinking action with Atom, and I always like seeing more of Snart's story.

 

[Drz]

Really good episode.

 

[Mike Murdock]

you know what rip should have done find the nearest factor that had corrosive acid vat's and dropped vandal body into it.

if there was that in gotham in the 80's for joker chemical bath. then there vat's big enough for vandal himself as well.


and no cell can freaking regenerated from that. Rip made the mistake of leaving Hawkman body and look at where it left them as soon as he did.

Rip should have tried that after stabbing vandal

that's what I do as soon as he told me he knows rips wife and kid's names .
"I'd go oh do you now ." and that where I'd head to immediately.

He was turned to ash previously and regenerated. I think you're wrong (based on the show's internal logic) that he couldn't regenerate from an acid bath.

 

[Herolee10]

I still don't understand why Rip and Sara didn't take Vandal's body with them. I mean, wouldn't removing him from history be enough to change the timeline?

 

[WereCoyote]

I still don't understand why Rip and Sara didn't take Vandal's body with them. I mean, wouldn't removing him from history be enough to change the timeline?

or at least take him on board holding him down and let Kendra stab him in the heart with the dagger. Game over!

 

[Reaver027]

So Rip pretty much said that Superman and Batman will exist (or in Batman's case have already existed) in the Arrowverse. And that both will die/fall.
I am sure we won't get to see them on the show but it is nice to know that those two will be a thing on Earth 1.

 

[JC00]

I don't think Sara and Rip would have made it out of the building with Savage's body with his followers and henchman all over the building

 

[Nathan]

While I thoroughly enjoyed this Episode, I can't look past. Rip slit Savage's throat. He was down for the count. At least until he would heal up again. So why didn't they tie him him and throw his sorry ass into a holding cell on the ship?

I don't think Sara and Rip would have made it out of the building with Savage's body with his followers and henchman all over the building

Eh, they had Snart and Rory with them, they probably could have made it. Maybe instead of just slitting his throat and then leaving his body behind, maybe Rory could have accidentally set the building on fire, and because of the raging flames they would have had trouble to carry his body out.

 

[Steyin]

Why didn't Rip just travel back in time to before Savage gained his immortality, like go back to when he was a child and off him. Oh well.

Better episode than the first 2. Heatwave was great I felt.

 

[JC00]

While I thoroughly enjoyed this Episode, I can't look past. Rip slit Savage's throat. He was down for the count. At least until he would heal up again. So why didn't they tie him him and throw his sorry ass into a holding cell on the ship?



Eh, they had Snart and Rory with them, they probably could have made it. Maybe instead of just slitting his throat and then leaving his body behind, maybe Rory could have accidentally set the building on fire, and because of the raging flames they would have had trouble to carry his body out.

Except Heatwave was busy carrying Carter's body out of there and then Rip told Cold to leave moments before he stabbed Savage. So even if they caught up to them and told them to come back and help with Savage's body it's possible Savage's henchmen/followers would have taken his body before they got back.

 

[General Mike]

Why didn't Rip just travel back in time to before Savage gained his immortality, like go back to when he was a child and off him. Oh well.

Better episode than the first 2. Heatwave was great I felt.

I think if he went back to before Vandal was immortal, it would change the timeline too much.

 

[Primal Slayer]

1 thing that really annoyed me about last nights episode is that they had Cold/Heat going to town with their guns but their guns did nothing. Why was nothing being set on fire or being frozen? Are they able to make it into a concentrated blast that doesn't do any major harm?

 

[JC00]

Why didn't Rip just travel back in time to before Savage gained his immortality, like go back to when he was a child and off him. Oh well.

Better episode than the first 2. Heatwave was great I felt.

He did go back before he got his immortality. Savage got his immortality from the meteors.

 

[Nathan]

That's another thing that is annoying me. 3 Episodes, and nothings been frozen solid or put on fire. It's like their weapons got turned into stun guns.

 

[Herolee10]

1 thing that really annoyed me about last nights episode is that they had Cold/Heat going to town with their guns but their guns did nothing. Why was nothing being set on fire or being frozen? Are they able to make it into a concentrated blast that doesn't do any major harm?

I think it's mainly a budgetary reason as to why you don't see the guns doing more whenever they're used.

When Cold first used his gun back in the first season of "The Flash", we actually saw on how his gun could "freeze" people.

If anything, it seems like they've transitioned Cold's gun from freezing people to simply killing them with cold burns.

 

[Herolee10]

He did go back before he got his immortality. Savage got his immortality from the meteors.

But Savage's goon, the one that was being held hostage on the ship, also said that Rip had gone back to the period when Savage had "first" received his immorality.

 

[JC00]

But Savage's goon, the one that was being held hostage on the ship, also said that Rip had gone back to the period when Savage had "first" received his immorality.

Well how was he suppose to find a child Vandal Savage in Egypt? He could have spent years and never found him.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

My plan would to take Savage while he is immobilized and then bury him in concrete and then buy the concrete deep...deep underground.

 

[Herolee10]

Well how was he suppose to find a child Vandal Savage in Egypt? He could have spent years and never found him.

He wouldn't need to find him as a child. Just find him during the era when Prince Kufu was still alive in his first life. It was only when he and Shayhera died for the first time that Vandal had received his immortality.

 

[Webhead2006]

last night episode wasnt to bad. Didnt get chance to watch it last night. Got finished with it a little while ago. First was nice to see more from the 70s. The stuff with snart trying to fix his past was nice but time still ended up going as it did pretty much with no change. So it was cool to see him try and fix his father and his family past. The stuff with stien and atom trying to save kendra was played out well. I liked the rip and sara combo and the stuff with vandal and the blood ties and was nice to see them get carter body and give him a burial.

 

[Pokkle]

Good episode, I like Snart more and more.
They should have run with Savage's body and put his immortal body in a cage in the ship (or his immortality doesn't work like this.)

 

[Mike Murdock]

or at least take him on board holding him down and let Kendra stab him in the heart with the dagger. Game over!

Presumably, once he "dies," Kendra stabbing him wouldn't accomplish anything. But, yeah, I'd let him loose in the space between time or something or move him thousands of years in the future (maybe put him on a barren, airless planet) to stop him if nothing else works. The explanation is his very precise body regenerates and he isn't simply reincarnated, so I agree it would be better to have his body than to not have it.

He wouldn't need to find him as a child. Just find him during the era when Prince Kufu was still alive in his first life. It was only when he and Shayhera died for the first time that Vandal had received his immortality.

Rip did that but chickened out at the last second and I'm not sure a time traveler can cross over his own time stream (to use Doctor Who rules). In other words, he can't go there a second time.

 

[JC00]

He wouldn't need to find him as a child. Just find him during the era when Prince Kufu was still alive in his first life. It was only when he and Shayhera died for the first time that Vandal had received his immortality.

But then there wouldn't be a show.....

 

[Herolee10]

But then there wouldn't be a show.....

If anything, I think it would have been better if Vandal was never introduced in the "Crossover", let alone establishing his origins so closely with the Hawks.

They should have kept his origins has vague and mysterious like how Nolan did with Heath's Joker.

By doing that, then they wouldn't have all of these loopholes where people ask things like..

1. Why didn't Rip just go back to the point when the "Crossover" had taken place and tell them all to have the Hawks deliver the killing blow?

or

2. Why didn't Rip just go back far enough to when Vandal was still mortal and working under Prince Kufu?


Also, even though some are assuming that the reason why Rip didn't just drag Vandal's (temporary) lifeless corpse back to his ship is because he didn't think that he could make it pass Vandal's remaining guards, well I feel like they should have established that better in the episode since I've seen a lot of people asking that as well.

 

[zenith16]

He was turned to ash previously and regenerated. I think you're wrong (based on the show's internal logic) that he couldn't regenerate from an acid bath.

oh I was talking actual chemistry cause my dad was one and I know corrosive acid does more damage the just acid . it eat's everything it's not normal acid. and it's an acid with lingering effects in that it keep on going eating at what in it til there nothing left

I have two other solutions one involve in what what shown int he show sliders with Jerry O'connel 's character Quinn Mallory that dealt the multiverse cause he and he friends were fighting people called Kromagg's which had the power of regeneration the those Kromagg's had the same thirst for world domination too .

but one was killed with a weapon the Kromagg people created them selves which was toxic radiation weapon and the Kromagg couldn't regenerate cause it's radiation and one infect it'll keep eating at your body.

here's the link http://sliders.wikia.com/wiki/Kromagg

you brought up what happened befor when both oliver and barry helped kill vandal . yeah he was dust the problem is the y left the freaking ash's . now that it's known he regenerate from a cell fight him indoors incinerate him again and make sure you vacuum his ashes and put that int a capsule and you have a freaking ship make sure to head to the sun and torpedo his ashes into the sum he's in space and his ashes was sent into a star . it'll rediculus to regrow your body regenerating /regrow in something constantly burning and as wide as the sun which was also the point of the corrosive acid which also eat's way of anything flesh like cell wise and most none living thing save maybe certain containers.