Deadpool & Wolverine Deadpool & Wolverine Spoiler Thread

[BobJM]

Again, just want to say that Jackman is iconic as Wolverine and I’ll take so many more movies with him. This movie showed, yet again, Jackman can take nothing and turn it to gold.

 

[BlackFox]

Seeing it again Wednesday.

Today....

 

[HammerDown]

Marvel really dialed up the music button on this. It’s basically a 90’s videoclip/super hero montage for better or worse.

 

[jondoe]

So maybe I misunderstood but the movie made it seem like the events of Logan (2017) have already happened on Deadpool's world? Makes no sense. The events of Logan take place in 2029 and the X-Men were long gone by that point.

Deadpool time travel to Logan's time thinking a possibility He can somehow help jumpstart His regenerative ability. Only to confirm He is Dead to His disappointment.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

OK now review on all charac and where they are from

confirmed versions:
-Deadpool the main one from foxverse 10005, and multiples variants from many universes
-Wolverine variants : wolverine from fox 10005 who will die in 2029, wolverine yellow who fails his world and multiples variants from many universes
-X23 is from fox 10005 . Logan movie
-Hulk variant

Doubt:
-Human torch, Elektra, Blade : are we sure they are the same version from previous movies preMCU? Or variants . According to me they are the same
-Gambit, Sabret, Pyro, Toad, Jugernaut and Deathstrike: from fox 10005 or others versions ? Azazel is dead before 1973 so i think his case is a variant

Happy is the only from Mcu (main) 616

 

[Mr. Peanut]

I’m still gonna hold out hope we see the FoX-Men in an upcoming movie, whether it be one of the two avenger movies or something else

You don’t put Beast in that marvels post credit scene and not pay it off somehow

I was expecting more past X-Men franchise characters than just Laura, a Gambit that never was (though still amazing to see), Sabretooth, Pyro and a small collection of C/D-list villains but I guess they're probably saving any potential reunion with Halle Berry, Famke Janssen, and James Marsden for Secret Wars.

While I initially thought the X-men tease at the end of The Marvels might be paid off in DP&W, after some thought it actually sort of made me temper my expectations for an X-men appearance in DP&W. Because it wouldn't make much sense to tease the X-men in a family friendly movie like The Marvels only to pay it off in a movie that younger viewers can't watch. Plus they would have to address the situation with Monica, which wouldn't really fit in a Deadpool movie.

 

[Zantera]

I kinda hope when we get the Marvel X-Men that Wolverine is demoted to just being the muscle similar to how he's used in the anime. I think Hugh Jackman has been wonderful in the role but we've had 20 years of Wolverine being "THE X-Man" (as said by Deadpool himself) and it just doesn't do any justice to the rest of them.

 

[Mr. Peanut]

Doubt:
-Human torch, Elektra, Blade : are we sure they are the same version from previous movies preMCU? Or variants . According to me they are the same

Well, I think the past history they experienced includes their respective movies. There are probably tons of universes that are identical to the movies but then deviate afterwards. Or even deviate beforehand in some random, mundane, off-screen way.

(One problem with the sheer infiniteness of universes is that it kind of makes pinning down specific universes feel meaningless. Like there could be a universe where where everything is the same as 616 except lemons taste slightly more sour. Does that get its own number?)

 

[Drizzle]

While I initially thought the X-men tease at the end of The Marvels might be paid off in DP&W, after some thought it actually sort of made me temper my expectations for an X-men appearance in DP&W. Because it wouldn't make much sense to tease the X-men in a family friendly movie like The Marvels only to pay it off in a movie that younger viewers can't watch. Plus they would have to address the situation with Monica, which wouldn't really fit in a Deadpool movie.

That I agree with. I was never expecting the Monica thread from the end of The Marvels to be picked up here. I was more prepared to see cameos from the OG cast.

 

[DyeLorean]

So this wasn't Deadpool in the MCU... yet. Yes, he is technically in the MCU but he didn't interact with anyone from it besides Happy.
They're saving the interactions for later and that makes me feel good. They really took advantage of all the Fox/X-Men universe possibilities.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I hope they announce an AvX adaptation of some sort today in Hall H

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Deadpool time travel to Logan's time thinking a possibility He can somehow help jumpstart His regenerative ability. Only to confirm He is Dead to His disappointment.

Even if we were to assume that Deadpool traveled from 2024 to 2029 in his own universe, things don't line up. The X-Men are still very much alive in 2024 but by the time Logan starts, the X-Men are already kind of forgotten. I just don't see how the Deadpool movies and Logan can be set in the same universe. I guess I shouldn't be trying to make sense of the Foxverse timeline but it still kind of bothered me haha.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

I hope they announce an AvX adaptation of some sort today in Hall H

I don't want the mutants' first big appearance to be an AvX film.

 

[Another_Fool]

Deadpool time travel to Logan's time thinking a possibility He can somehow help jumpstart His regenerative ability. Only to confirm He is Dead to His disappointment.

Obviously if this were a more serious movie, the big plot hole would be why doesn't Deadpool just travel to the point where Logan fights X-24 and prevent his death from even happening.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I don't want the mutants' first big appearance to be an AvX film.

Well I’m not saying a straight up AvX adaptation, just a reference point to get the ball rolling on mutants showing up in these movies.

Sorta like how they used civil war and the infinity gauntlet stuff to inspire the movies they were making. I’m one of the few folks who’s totally fine using the fox characters first because of the multiverse.

After secret wars, they can reset the whole universe and finally do MCU X-Men

 

[DyeLorean]

Obviously if this were a more serious movie, the big plot hole would be why doesn't Deadpool just travel to the point where Logan fights X-24 and prevent his death from even happening.

Because they don't want to f*** with the movie "Logan", as he says in the beginning. They're not touching that. It's meta, but it's an answer.

 

[Drizzle]

So this wasn't Deadpool in the MCU... yet. Yes, he is technically in the MCU but he didn't interact with anyone from it besides Happy.
They're saving the interactions for later and that makes me feel good. They really took advantage of all the Fox/X-Men universe possibilities.

I think my imagination ran a little too wild when I saw this shot in the trailer because I was fully expecting them to be jumping in and out of major events in the MCU.

But in hindsight it makes a lot more sense for Marvel to hold off on that until Secret Wars when they most likely will have everyone at their disposal.

 

[DyeLorean]

I think my imagination ran a little too wild when I saw this shot in the trailer because I was fully expecting them to be jumping in and out of major events in the MCU.

I know. It might have felt like "oh they're saving things from the end, Endgame style".

But I think what they ended up doing worked best for a Deadpool movie. They played with what they could. What is the saying? "Don't bite off more than you can chew"? They kept themselves fairly restrained.

 

[Drizzle]

Something else that I thought of. You know who would have been the cherry on top if he was in the group with Blade and Elektra, etc.?

 

[BlackFox]

Plus Endgame already sort of did that, might have been a bit of rehash to copy that again, Im glad this is still very much its own thing in the end and more self contained this time round.

 

[DyeLorean]

Something else that I thought of. You know who would have been the cherry on top if he was in the group with Blade and Elektra, etc.?

I bet they're saving him for Secret Wars.

 

[CB Fan]

Again, just want to say that Jackman is iconic as Wolverine and I’ll take so many more movies with him. This movie showed, yet again, Jackman can take nothing and turn it to gold.

Nah if anything this film makes me wish that instead of “no more mutants” Wanda can say “no more Hugh-verine”.

 

[JP]

Loved this even more on the second viewing.

 

[Mr. Peanut]

Even if we were to assume that Deadpool traveled from 2024 to 2029 in his own universe, things don't line up. The X-Men are still very much alive in 2024 but by the time Logan starts, the X-Men are already kind of forgotten. I just don't see how the Deadpool movies and Logan can be set in the same universe. I guess I shouldn't be trying to make sense of the Foxverse timeline but it still kind of bothered me haha.

The X-men aren't forgotten by 2029, they are mentioned on a news report which states that the Westchester incident happened "over a year ago", and during which time several X-men were killed. So the Westchester incident happened late 2027 or early 2028, and is when the X-men were disbanded.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

The X-men aren't forgotten by 2029, they are mentioned on a news report which states that the Westchester incident happened "over a year ago", and during which time several X-men were killed. So the Westchester incident happened late 2027 or early 2028, and is when the X-men were disbanded.

Really? I have to rewatch the film if that's the case.