The Dark Knight "Dent, Damnit!", Dent casting "may not be considered conventional"

[JStorm]

Unconventional could be a comedian, too. Or a woman.

My point exactly.

 

[Tojo]

haha if Dent is a woman i will definatley kill someone.

Foxx ain't bad, and if Jett's annoying crypticism is right then yes the actor will probably be black, and Jaimie Foxx. Unconventional indeed imo. He won't be bad, a solid actor, just aslong as he doesn't bring any hip-hopism to the table. I like him, but Phoenix is better.

 

[raybia]

Foxx ain't bad, and if Jett's annoying crypticism is right then yes the actor will probably be black, and Jaimie Foxx. Unconventional indeed imo. He won't be bad, a solid actor, just aslong as he doesn't bring any hip-hopism to the table.

There goes the neighborhood!

 

[Miranda Fox]

I thought I should say this and if I'm wrong, well, it won't matter.

I don't think Jett is right about this.

I really don't.

Now, I'm not saying this out of some stupid, grudge-driven desire to him fail - on the contrary, I like him. I admire his tenacity in keeping BOF up all these years when most would've understandably given up on WB ages ago.

But...I don't think he's right.

If I'm wrong, then I'll happily get him a shrubbery or cut down the tree of his choice with a herring but...I've just got an odd feeling.

 

[StorminNorman]

Unconventional could be a comedian, too. Or a woman.

Vince Vaughn perhaps?

 

[7Hells]

Now i know you're gonna say Oldman, Caine....but they are not on Denzel's scale.

Denzel comes nowhere near Oldman in respect of his profession. Please inform me of any role Denzel has taken that diverted from the character he has played in every movie. You do realize there are more countries besides the U.S.. Just because someone has more fans doesnt make them any better. How many fans do you think actors like Anthony Hopkins, Chris Cooper, Judi Dench, Emma Thompson and Jeff Bridges have in comparison to actors like Denzel, Cruise, Keanu Reeves and Drew Barrymore?
Which group do you think directors prefer to work with?

thats a joke bro.... can we make some logical arguments here... last time I checked Bale hasn't won anything... and don't compare Oldman to Denzel for pete's sake... he would steal the show and we don't know if that's a good thing...

Yes lets get logical, how many horrible actors have gotten awards? I cant even count them. And how many incredible actors go unnoticed in awards? Its a club, its all about who is due. Its all politics and money, anyone that has ever come close to any production company knows this.

The quote was Bale was five times the actor Denzel is... I have seen enough movies from both of them to know that is completely false and nothing more than showing favoritism to Bale cause he played Bruce Wayne/Batman... you can't even put those actors in the same sentence yet...

Yes, because one is an actor and the other just plays the same role over and over again, himself. Bale has been a more respected actor than Denzel long before his role in Batman. Denzel may have more fans but that doesnt make him better. You need to watch more than just the big budget crap the production companies force feed you for your money.

 

[Tojo]

Denzel comes nowhere near Oldman in respect of his profession. Please inform me of any role Denzel has taken that diverted from the character he has played in every movie.

Eh? Did you pull that 'fact' out of your ass? I'll disregard the stupidity of that first statement and move on to the second-please watch Training Day, Cry Freedom, Glory, He Got Game and Malcolm X and then tell me he is the same in every movie. What a dumb thing you just said there.

You do realize there are more countries besides the U.S.

Oh really i thought America was teh only country in the whole entire intarweb!111 I'm from the UK dumbass. It just so happens that America has the most famous and largest film industry in the world.

Just because someone has more fans doesnt make them any better. How many fans do you think actors like Anthony Hopkins, Chris Cooper, Judi Dench, Emma Thompson and Jeff Bridges have in comparison to actors like Denzel, Cruise, Keanu Reeves and Drew Barrymore?
Which group do you think directors prefer to work with?

Oh christ you really are a ******. I never even said Denzel was a better actor than Oldman or Caine, i said he is bigger, which means his presence, or star quality, or whatever it is about him, is just too big for a role like Dent. Oldman is like a chameleon, he is different in every role and he better be because he's not a conventional star like Denzel(who earns 20 mill per movie btw). Denzel is one of those great actors who doesn't differ from film to film AS MUCH, or in the same way as Oldman does. For me, an actor like Denzel playing a character like Dent would not work.

And Denzel is way better than Cruise, Reeves etc....i don't know why you put him in that category.

 

[Tojo]

Denzel may have more fans but that doesnt make him better. You need to watch more than just the big budget crap the production companies force feed you for your money.

LMAO what Denzel movies have you actually watched? #it's astonishing how much bulls**t you are putting yourself through.

 

[7Hells]

Eh? Did you pull that 'fact' out of your ass? I'll disregard the stupidity of that first statement and move on to the second-please watch Training Day, Cry Freedom, Glory, He Got Game and Malcolm X and then tell me he is the same in every movie. What a dumb thing you just said there.

Ive seen those, he played the same moral high grounded authority figure he does in all his movies.
Great examples by the way, thanks.

Oh really i thought America was teh only country in the whole entire intarweb!111 I'm from the UK dumbass.

You should read more carefully before calling people dumbasses.

Oh christ you really are a ******. I never even said Denzel was a better actor than Oldman or Caine, i said he is bigger, which means his presence, or star quality, or whatever it is about him, is just too big for a role like Dent.

Again please read things more carefully before you call people ******ed.

And Denzel is way better than Cruise, Reeves etc....i don't know why you put him in that category.

Honestly I dont know if he is better. Cruise plays the same roles in all his movies just like Denzel. If Denzel is better hopefully he will try and choose more challenging roles in the future. I admit Keanu was a cheap shot Yet, in the conext of the argument it fits because I was disproving a point made by someone other than you.

 

[mcflytrap]

I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it here too:

it just occurred to me; what if they're trying to woo PACINO!?!?! He's definitely someone to "aim high" at, and unconventional in terms of age for casting Dent . . . also, he's worked w/ Nolan in the past, which Nolan has been quoted as saying he likes to do (when you work with good people, yadda, yadda). . . hmmmmmm

I'm seriously doubting it...but if they got Pacino I would literally **** my pants in delight.

 

[mcflytrap]

man . . . overacting or not, couldn't you just see him QWN this part? Part John Milton from Devil's Advocate (vanity . . . it's my favorite sin) . . . . part Colonel from Scent of a Woman . . . . now I'm damn near convinced of it myself . . . .

Hooah!!

 

[mcflytrap]

He's already a big thing. But he's inescapably british. Of all the characters Harvey is one of a few that I don't think should be noticably british. That's why.

Ummm...what?

How exactly is he going to be noticably British aside from an accent (which can be changed)? Do Brits look different than Americans?

 

[mcflytrap]

Leonardo DiCaprio is a phenomenal actor. People who trash him tend to be people who saw "Titanic", and refuse to watch the rest of his movies becasue he's a "pretty-boy".

Would I like him as Harvey Dent? Absolutely. I'd have probably liked him for The Joker as well. But I don't think he's a likely candidate at all, as he's just too big a name.

Leo was great in:

This Boy's Life
The Basketball Diaries
Catch Me If You Can
Gangs of New York
The Departed **I think this is his best work yet

 

[mcflytrap]

Pacino is a joke. I dont care if he is the Godfather, as an actor, he is only a name.

A joke? The man who is widely considered one of the greatest actors alive today?

 

[mcflytrap]

Yeah, I know, and I forgot all about that suggestion you gave. Its such a radically choice that its really hard to take seriously. But now I have to restate myself.

If they go with a black actor, the only one that will accept is Denzel and Don Cheadle.

Anyone else will be a big, big mistake and will force me to reconsider how much in Nolan I trust.

It'll be Sideny Poitier....

"They callll meee.....Harrrvey Dent!"

 

[mcflytrap]

Overrated? I think this guy hasn't even earned the respect he deserves yet. Titanic was an unfortunate blow to the public's perception of him. But he's slowly gaining that respect back working with Marty. His last performance was especially noteworthy, considering he went head-to-head with Nicholson and wasn't even outperformed.

OneKnight's a dip****. DiCaprio kicked acting ass in THE DEPARTED.

 

[mcflytrap]

Coversates with peers?

For that alone, you should be ignored...and possibly put to death.

Conversing with peers is the best way to make sure you have an open mind regarding a topic. They can sometimes bring up suggestions or ideas that you would never have thought of...and provide alternate ways of looking at something.

But you're a dip****....and I'm sure my peers would agree.

 

[mcflytrap]

I'd be down with that.

 

[Boom]

I think my peers would agree that nine consecutive posts weren't necessary.

Edit button dude.

 

[mcflytrap]

thats a joke bro.... can we make some logical arguments here... last time I checked Bale hasn't won anything... and don't compare Oldman to Denzel for pete's sake... he would steal the show and we don't know if that's a good thing...

Are you honestly saying that Denzel would steal the show from Oldman? Oldman...the guy who played ****ing DRACULA and gave me nightmares. The guy who played ZORG....the guy who play ****ing ZORG, for ****'s sake!!! And ****ing Drexl!!!! ****ING DREXL!!!!

 

[mcflytrap]

I agree. Take a look at this from Jett's latest Scattershots entry:


It's either him or Denzel. And honestly, I'd like Jamie Foxx. He can act and he puts a hell of a lot of effort into his roles - exactly the kind of actor Nolan likes to cast.

Your deduction may be right according to Jett's hints...but the question still remains, are Jett's hints accurate? I remember him saying, "It really looks like Bettany is going to be Mr. J."

 

[Tojo]

Ive seen those, he played the same moral high grounded authority figure he does in all his movies.
Great examples by the way, thanks.
You should read more carefully before calling people dumbasses.
Again please read things more carefully before you call people ******ed.

His character in Training Day is morally high grounded?

Honestly I dont know if he is better. Cruise plays the same roles in all his movies just like Denzel. If Denzel is better hopefully he will try and choose more challenging roles in the future. I admit Keanu was a cheap shot Yet, in the conext of the argument it fits because I was disproving a point made by someone other than you.

Training Day wasn't challenging? Man on Fire wasn't challenging? Glory wasn't challenging? Playing a South African wasn't challenging?

I do not know what to say about this

 

[mcflytrap]

I grew up in the south, thats why I despise it. ****ing religious extremism and homophobia everywhere.

And yell "stereotype!" all you want, most stereotypes have some sort of basis in reality. I grew up around these people, therefore I have the right to make that judgement. Of course not ALL Southerners are ignorant and backwards, but overall the ignorant ones are the rule, not the acception.

We gots a smart guy here. Them southerners are killin' me with them taters and grits. Jesus saves, amen.

 

[mcflytrap]

I think my peers would agree that nine consecutive posts weren't necessary.

Edit button dude.

Your panties are bunching up again, aren't they? When my nine consecutive posts that are all responding to a different quote affect your life, you can come crying to me at night and I will feed you something.

 

[7Hells]

His character in Training Day is morally high grounded?

Just because the character is written ambigous doesnt mean Denzel played him as such. Denzel played that character as if he had the moral highground, yes. He was above the law, watch it again

Training Day wasn't challenging? Man on Fire wasn't challenging? Glory wasn't challenging? Playing a South African wasn't challenging?

How can they be challenging when they are all the same character? The man is a wonderful natural actor. Natural acting has nothing to do with character development.